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How do you feel about IWD 3 boon PvE entry requirement
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I keep seeing forum posts about how people are disliking being forced to PvE grind through Sharandar or Dread Ring in order to get the 3rd boon requirement to be able to enter Icewind Dale module.
So, I thought I'd give people a poll where everyone can inform the devs on their feelings about the requirements.
So, I thought I'd give people a poll where everyone can inform the devs on their feelings about the requirements.
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Thirteen days actually, unless they get the invocation thing.
I don't have a problem with it but it's perhaps hard for me to see the other side as I knew this was coming so put the effort in to making sure all my characters met the requirements.
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Regarding new players, it wouldnt hurt them to get to know the pre-mod3 content before getting to the latest content as they will be equally new and exciting to them anyway.
But; on the other hand it is rewarding players who do play the game and put time and energy into it. I also think some of the people complaining just want the same as someone who puts time into the game gets.
Why not reward someone over another who hasn't played for 3 months.
They are also complaining about not getting the boons because they do not like pve, well the new zone is pve, so Blah!
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But I don't think where people can go should be restricted with gear/boon/level requirements.
Difficulty itself should be the restricting factor just like in good rpgs. If the area is too hard take few steps back and get stronger or heck get help.
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And as for "the content is hard anyway", that's just BS. Adding ridiculous requirements because the content is too hard is the wrong way to do it. That's saying they admit there is a problem, so they change everything else to fit the problem, rather than fixing the actual problem. If your car is out of gas, you don't go out to push it. You fill up more gas.
in all honesty though, if they ever make content that requires 5 boons from sharandar.....that will truly be the middle finger >.>
not just the 5 boon requirement but also needing it from sharandar. i believe that took me 2-3 months and i never want to do it again. 5 boons from dread ring is like a month.
3 boons is nowhere near as bad as a 3 month grind.
but i don't really see the point in the requirement at all. only a few boons are actually important and the rest are just stat boosts.
the actual gear needed for this content can be obtained from either tier 2 dungeons, pvp, gauntlgrymm, dread ring, or sharandar. considering malabog can potentially kill pc's then it can be ignored and most groups will rarely, if at all, beat spider.
they should have just put up a gs requirement of like 10-12k or whatever which isn't that hard to get.
You have to be level 60 and have 3 boons to access IWD
I am totally OK with it. And given the GS requirement, not that GS means much, but it at least keeps out totally under-geared players that wine if they die alone to a 2-3 player encounter.
In fact, I think the requirements to enter should have been even higher...10K GS is kind-of low.
Sharandar, to get all 5 boons, requires 990 feywild sparks. You can get 120 sparks per week (unless you take the 6 day invoking cache, which would make it 150). So, it would take ~47-58 days to get all of the sparks without buying any from lockboxes. Now, lets say you buy all of your sparks for Sharandar. You will still need 24 days minimum (and a lot of AD to do this) to get all 5 boons. Since most players will not be able to afford buying every spark they need, it will take a player almost 2 months at most to be able to get into icewind dale through sharandar (if this was a requirement). Dread ring is much more bearable where it takes a max of 31 days if you only do boons, but can technically be done in under and hour if you buy everything (again, most players will progress through it normally). As it stands, it only takes 13 days at most to get into icewind dale, which is honestly not that bad.
Long story short, 5/5 boons is too much of a requirement while 3/5 is fine since the time frame to do so isn't horrible. It can't be lower than 3 simply because anyone can get 2/5 boons for sharandar in a day if you kill mobs for a while for their bounty (or just buy it for dirt cheap).
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I have no problems with the requirements. It ensures players are at least minimally geared and ready for the harder and more challenging content in module 3.
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1) 10kGS + 3 boons
2) 15k GS (or some other number)*
For people who have alts that are geared enough but didn't have the time to go through all the motions of grinding the boons, Option (2) would be something to opt for. Getting all 3 boons on all characters puts really an "artificial time wall" which in my opinion is unjustified by the level of difficulty of the new zone given the fact that the power of 3 boons could easily be exceeded with proper gear.
My 50 cents.
Especially considering the biased nature of the poll. This backfired badly on the OP.
It's also silly that Castle Never and Malabog's Castle have lower GS requirements than Icewind Dale. An under-geared player can queue for these dungeons and frustrate fellow group members, but can't visit Icewind Dale, bothering nobody.
Not really. I find it informative.
Personally, I found it quite a waste of time for no reason. It forced me to repetitively play the same content I'd already played, over, and over, and over, and over again for roughly 3 total hours of my life over nearly a month.
3 hours wasted and annoyed for ridiculous (no reason).
As I've mentioned in other posts, I used to repeatedly adventure in zones several levels higher than suggested. I think it made me more clearly understand my characters strengths and weaknesses.
I wouldn't mind say an 11k gearscore, or a minimal defense score or something.
It's like telling me I must read the last chapter in the 2nd book of a trilogy 21 times before I can start reading the third book. Oh, and you can only read that last chapter once a day.
Just stupid. IMHO.
...multiply by every alt. Nope, sorry, not gonna happen. You pretty much guaranteed I will most likely only have my main.
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I will stress this again, the 10k and JUST 3 boon requirements is very low. It is only the minimum. Trust me if you go to Ice Wind Pass with a 10ish k or 11ish k GS and only 3 boons or a handful of boons......YOU WILL GET YOU *** HANDED TO YOU. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO EVEN SOLO THE DAILIES.
Now with that said, if you play and group with other doing dailies and stuff then you will be okay but y'all will still die. This mod is no steamroll.
They could remove the 3 boon requirement and it would not make a bit of difference...then the complaints would be the encounters, mobs etc are too hard.
Even though there is no dungeon per se...everyone needs to adjust their thinking...it is a dungeon...the entire zones are a dungeon, it is just an open world dungeon and it is very, very unforgiving, unlike any open world area in Neverwinter.