This is what i mean with "community" - it sound like the "community" consists of annoyed customers who want to be heard by Cryptic etc...
It sounds that way because it is that way.
This is how it's worked up to mod 3: the community complains about something. The Devs fix something completely different and the original thing that people actually care about gets worse.
That's been the theme and we are tired of it.
There have been posts upon posts, detailed posts, containing math and very well articulated arguments and explanations. There is no excuse, "we told you so" is going to be the continuing theme here get used to it.
There are A LOT of positive things in mod3, some really good content and changes. There are many more negative things that have existed for a LONG LONG time and these things have been explained to them over and over by the player base.
So no, no mercy.
P.S. As others have said, we would not be coming here and complaining if we didn't both like and care about the game. I really like this game, because of that, watching the Devs ignore the important things and focus on the unimportant, flashy, garbage is very very aggravating.
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lolssi83Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 51
edited May 2014
Well since the title says community let's start with that. Worst comminity I've encountered.
People stealing your quest objectives while you're killing the mobs around them. More evident in mod3 since it takes longer to clear groups.
I like doable challenge but if it gets repetetive (dailies)I'd just rather sleepwalk through it.
Not liking the way they managed to break Death Forge either.
But yeah old bugs that don't get fixed don't give very professional image about Cryptic.
Heroic encounters are nice but they are too common and don't see them keeping my interest for very long seeing the same ones constantly. In my opinion they should happen more like arc falls in Defiance.
PVE side of Mod3 is actually way better than that of previous mods. You actually have lots of quests without combat in the beginning and you can get good bit of backstory from npcs.
there are more areas too i hope they have interesting enemies and different types of heroics lets not forget that it can still be the case and the first map seemed large i got lost more than 10 times just wandering fighting and looking for encounters that were in my wheel house for solo and it feels like people are actually coming to the rescue on some of them because they get stuff too.
my hope is that it will bring people closer together now that we all fight on the same battle fields but probably hoping for too much
Well, basically the rage issue is something that has been building up, since as you say, it's been around for a long time and hasn't been fixed but instead aggravated. This however would be subject to different user's opinions/likes/dislikes. But yeah, I do notice that these days, people seem to be going for more features and "better graphics" before the more immediate problems of fixing current bugs/problems. Expansion should be done, yes, but not at the cost of neglecting maintenance issues.
As for raging, like I said, the key word here is "civilized".
P.S. You should really give 1 character bound retraining token to each character that has had its build negatively affected by the changes. I mean, people can't be expected to pay extra money to retrain just because they were badly affected by some change. That would be wrong. Hence the retraining token should be given but character bound, and only to characters that have been affected (i.e. their intended build messed up). GWF is a good example. Many are probably in a jam now due to unexpected changes.
This is how it's worked up to mod 3: the community complains about something. The Devs fix something completely different and the original thing that people actually care about gets worse.
That's been the theme and we are tired of it.
There have been posts upon posts, detailed posts, containing math and very well articulated arguments and explanations. There is no excuse, "we told you so" is going to be the continuing theme here get used to it.
There are A LOT of positive things in mod3, some really good content and changes. There are many more negative things that have existed for a LONG LONG time and these things have been explained to them over and over by the player base.
So no, no mercy.
P.S. As others have said, we would not be coming here and complaining if we didn't both like and care about the game. I really like this game, because of that, watching the Devs ignore the important things and focus on the unimportant, flashy, garbage is very very aggravating.
The trouble with this approach, too, is that the ignored bugs just build up. Established players don't notice, but try having a friend come fresh to the game, asking you why nothing seems to work properly. Because this state of affairs happened gradually, it was like an exercise in frog boiling.
Personally, I am running out of answers when someone asks me why so much of the game doesn't work.
"Personally, I am running out of answers when someone asks me why so much of the game doesn't work."
Yeah me too to be honest. it is because of the expansions but its also because the game requires itself to be bigger or else people who complete the content get bored and stop playing.
because it wasnt big to start with and the bugs simply just are new ones have been happening each time it expands eventually when the game gets big enough I have to believe the bugs will die. For a while the bigger necessary ones have been killed but more keep popping up and the smaller ones have been left behind; it will likely be perpetual for a while and maybe it will stop.
but then again I'm patient enough to wait for that day been here this long and momma didnt raise no quitter lol.
I also think that HR should get a respec as well owing to the new paragon as every other class got one when they got the new paragon also got one.
Anyway I think that the forums should be a place to learn things about classes places dungeons not a place to complain thats all, though not likely to happen now.
The trouble with this approach, too, is that the ignored bugs just build up. Established players don't notice, but try having a friend come fresh to the game, asking you why nothing seems to work properly. Because this state of affairs happened gradually, it was like an exercise in frog boiling.
Personally, I am running out of answers when someone asks me why so much of the game doesn't work.
In most estabilished MMOs companies are starting to make small dedicated teams (even a single dev would help a lot) tackling those small but most annoying bugs. Often they could be solved by changing a line or two of code. It can't require 10 people 10 days to fix the mail "autoscrolling" or the fey thistle boon.
If someone is perfectly happy with all the content or majority of the content, they will be in-game playing and they will say their "thank yous" in the form of pressing the "Buy ZEN" button.
The ZEN market has appreciated rapidly against the astral diamond recently to 500ad/ZEN.
That's a huge "thank you" to the developers already.
If everyone is satisfied and happy in a game, then the forums and particularly feedback and discussion threads will lose their meaning.
I laugh at the people raging and complaining. They amuse me. The fact is that 99% of this game works fine and is hellafun for 99% of the people who play it. They don't even bother coming to the forums because they're busy playing and enjoying themselves. It's only a vocal minority of power players who are obsessed and been playing since the beta, discovering bugs because they're on here 24/7, and then *****ing about it in the forums because they can. These are also the people with 20K GS, 12 characters, and every epic mount and weapon possible who run Castle Never 15 times a day and own 15 million AD. They have no life so they play this game all day and night cataloging every bug they can find so they can bash the developers' over the head with it.
Funny chaps, they are. Now I must return to crafting many, many pairs of pants.
The fact is that 99% of this game works fine and is hellafun for 99% of the people who play it.
FACT: 83% of all statistics are made up.
People aren't complaining about minor bugs or <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> like that. They are complaining about major game mechanics that are broken, and have been made worse with each content update recently.
People were not asking for any major content, they were not asking for new instances.
They have been asking for 1 or 2 more PvP maps, maybe a PvP mode but no big deal if you can't get to it for a while.
They have been asking for fixes to broken and exploitable PvE instances.
They have been asking for foundry fixes and additions so that they can continue to make their own content.
They have been asking for Class changes that will make their class useful in both PvE and PvP.
Instead we get repeated buffs to the already overpowered classes, and nerfs for those classes that are not desired (both direct and indirect).
We get a huge open world PvP map that nobody asked for or wanted.
We get a huge PvE area around the PvP area with heroic quests and blah blah blah...
No one was asking for ANY of this (by no one I of course mean not enough people to even start a conversation on the forums about these things, or create any kind of "buzz" about these topics)
It really feels like we said "hey can we have green?" and they said "Sure!! Here is some Red, Purple, Orange, and Yellow!"
I'm not knocking the new content really, its cool, its neat, I'll enjoy it. But a lot more people would have been a lot more happy if they had simply addressed the few easy fixes we have been asking for FOR MONTHS.
I think it was a big mistake not giving out free respecs for HRs and GWFs. Breaking precedent on big class changes getting respecs is surprising. Instead of starting the first day taking in all the new content with my new paragon, I spent it much on the forum wondering with others what the heck was going on. Couple that with the confusion about if existing zen-buyers could get the new-buyer's pack and delays on receiving it (just got mine today), means that I at least haven't even been able to really try out the new content with a new HR build until today (and now there's maintenance).
And yes nowhere did it say they were guaranteed, but precedent said they were expected. Even community moderators told us to expect them. Not once did anyone post anything indicating they weren't going to happen.
Just a really bad move imo. If they were going to do it this way, they should've let us know beforehand and gotten all the backlash out of the way then.
How is Account Bank related to Mod 3 Content? the fact that you cannot use it for profession resources is big drawback and has nothing to do with the enjoyment of the campaign you are mixing up new features coming out at the same time as a new Module and think they are related.
How is Account Bank related to Mod 3 Content? the fact that you cannot use it for profession resources is big drawback and has nothing to do with the enjoyment of the campaign you are mixing up new features coming out at the same time as a new Module and think they are related.
Just think of it as 8 extra slots for your bank then.
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cedwizMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited May 2014
I am confused by this thread.
If you want to talk to people who are happy with the game, then try logging into the game. Generally, happy people will just smile and wave. It's the unhappy ones standing on the street corners, picketing with signs.
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zebularMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 15,270Community Moderator
If you want to talk to people who are happy with the game, then try logging into the game. Generally, happy people will just smile and wave. It's the unhappy ones standing on the street corners, picketing with signs.
Indeed. This is a "Forum" afterall. Forums, even in the literal sense, have always been places where people gather (or go to) to file complaints, get heard, and make their opinions known. This goes as far back, if not farther, than ancient Rome.
Generally, when people are happy they aren't complaining and they are playing. When they get upset or find something they don't like, they naturally want to let the company know, so they come to the forum where they can do just that. When they're happy, they're playing and spending.
they will say their "thank yous" in the form of pressing the "Buy ZEN" button.
The ZEN market has appreciated rapidly against the astral diamond recently to 500ad/ZEN.
Again - im not speaking about saying thank you im speaking more of why the people dont feel the urge to say what they like and share that. As you are not able to formulate that.
Your Zen exchange example is not really viable. If the exchange rate still would be 300 AD / Zen it would mean people are buying Zen alot. Right now its just evrybody is trading their ingame currency for Zen.
That there are people who might not like what you like is a fact of life.
You can say smoking is bad for ur health as a fact of life and leave it that way.... You know because of that "fact of life" i started this discussion...
I laugh at the people raging and complaining. They amuse me. The fact is that 99% of this game works fine and is hellafun for 99% of the people who play it. They don't even bother coming to the forums because they're busy playing and enjoying themselves. It's only a vocal minority of power players who are obsessed and been playing since the beta, discovering bugs because they're on here 24/7, and then *****ing about it in the forums because they can. These are also the people with 20K GS, 12 characters, and every epic mount and weapon possible who run Castle Never 15 times a day and own 15 million AD. They have no life so they play this game all day and night cataloging every bug they can find so they can bash the developers' over the head with it.
Funny chaps, they are. Now I must return to crafting many, many pairs of pants.
"They have no life so they play this game all day and night cataloging every bug they can find so they can bash the developers' over the head with it.
Funny chaps, they are. Now I must return to crafting many, many pairs of pants."
The pot should be wary of calling the kettle black.
You read stuff like:
OK so Black Ice gear is worthless for me
Do you all really think its that bad? Am i being super naive? Are you just busy playing the content?
In my opinion i really like it so far
- Invocation looks **** nice
- to me it seems very social / i added few people to my friendlist while doing encounters / PVP / dailies allready
- love the city of Car Koenig
- Love the additional Bank slots
- Love the new Black ice enchants
- Love the new artifacts and the possibility to share them
- Did you listen to stories the barkeeper is telling? Mayb you should!
- finnally more challenging content
- ...
what do you like / are you enjoying it?
PS:
I am a DC playing since 10 Month.
1. blackicegear is worthless for, at least 95% of all people...
2. invocation is something nobody cares about
3. well.. thats a thing that could happen anywhere in the game
4. caer koenig lags even worse than enclave for most people
5. bank slots are neat but not necessary so meh...
6. enchants are useless for most classes and speccs
7. artifacts are <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, and most people already have a better one to boost their stats
8. who cares about lore
9. there is no challenge, people already solo the 3man heroic encounters and some dungeons...
Wow mayb you should stop now because obviously u r stuffed with such a negativity that makes it hard to understand why you spend your free time on this game.
"who cares about lore"
"Artifacts are <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>" - speechless - wonder why rank 5 and peridots stacks are so expensive. But mayb you are just saying most of the people are idiots that dont get it...
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zebularMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 15,270Community Moderator
7. artifacts are <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, and most people already have a better one to boost their stats
I still love my first artifacts. They are not <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> to me and my Waters saves my life more than I can count and my merchant is just so darn handy.
You have to understand the new content as fun as some of it was messed with alot of existing content caused bugs etc.. the inclusion of black ice gear and its mainly pvp focus all but alienates the pve community which is larger than pvp and as such were confused an entire expansion main focus was on something few even care about.
the inclusion of more feats that will further the gap in pvp fairness disappoints many newer players as its forcing them to be punching bags for already established veterans.
there were a lot of nerfs handed down and promises or more to come...
a general feeling of rushed unfinished content and a change to character creation leaving a bad taste in many mouths.
but what I did like was hearing at least one person can overlook this all.
I'll be honest I am loving this expansion... its the best one yet.
Its extremely challenging, and I can actually die in this content. Its a LOT of fun and a huge challenge that is nearly addictive...
But I'm not going to kid myself here. There's a lot of Bugs that were reported during testing on Preview, and it seems many of them were not addressed. And its things that range from Encounter Spawns to abillities not functioning correctly. Throw in some reworks of old abillities without offering a rebuilt token to those classes, and yeah... there's people upset and with good reason.
Some of these things were not handled very well by cryptic.... and a great majority of it is deserved.
But at the same time... the actual expansion content.... if you overlook the issues.... is some of the best I've ever seen in NWN and most exciting.
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ladymythosMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 637Bounty Hunter
instead everybody is just complaining before they even played more than a day and progressed not more than 6% through the campaign.
I do like the bank slots, new customization and all that. My only complaint is that I can't even *get* to Icewind Dale, as I only have a lvl 60 with two boons and 9.7k GS. "Hi, here's some awesome content for those of you who grinded the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> out of the old content!" We who hate grinding are left in the dark. Sigh...
Not to mention we need to grind A LOT with EVERY character we want in Icewind Dale. And trust me, they will probably make Icewind Dale-grinding a requirement for the next content too, meaning even more boring grinding before we can get to the new stuff we actually want.
Look at the positive side of things. People would not voice their rage if they didn't like the game. Anyone posting on the forums be it positive or negative is someone who plays the game to the point where he feels compelled to post something. It would have been worse to get no reactions at all to a content patch...that would mean the game is dead.
While ideally true honestly it seems that a lot of the time it sees that the rage comes from people that not only hate the game themselves but hate the very idea that other people might think that the game and Cryptic is anything other than utter scum to be reviled. I've seen tons of posts where if anyone posted anything even slightly positive about a change, particularly a nerf or new feature you'd have to pay for, they're flamed to hell and back as "pathetic Cryptic brown-nosers"
Now thankfully that does seem to be getting a bit rarer, at least here anyhow, I think some of them might of migrated to the Star Trek Online forums instead
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zebularMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 15,270Community Moderator
I do like the bank slots, new customization and all that. My only complaint is that I can't even *get* to Icewind Dale, as I only have a lvl 60 with two boons and 9.7k GS. "Hi, here's some awesome content for those of you who grinded the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> out of the old content!" We who hate grinding are left in the dark. Sigh...
Not to mention we need to grind A LOT with EVERY character we want in Icewind Dale. And trust me, they will probably make Icewind Dale-grinding a requirement for the next content too, meaning even more boring grinding before we can get to the new stuff we actually want.
You can actually get three boons by the end of a week's time if you focus on just them and get the Sharandar pack from the celestial coin shop. Dread ring's isn't that hard either. The GS is what may be tricky to some, as it will either require gear grinding or spending of AD for gear and enchants on the AH, or a friendly helping hand.
Wow mayb you should stop now because obviously u r stuffed with such a negativity that makes it hard to understand why you spend your free time on this game.
You don't seem to understand that negativity on the forum in most cases doesn't mean you can't enjoy the game.
I have to echo Zeb on this one, as this kind of thing really bugs me.
I care!
I grew up in the Forgotten Realms (not physically in it obviously) and those details are important. The rest of your points, others have already addressed.
I'm not knocking the new content really, its cool, its neat, I'll enjoy it. But a lot more people would have been a lot more happy if they had simply addressed the few easy fixes we have been asking for FOR MONTHS.
All you have to do to confirm my supposedly made-up statistic is to compare the number of people complaining on the forums (which anyone could do) and compare them to the number active accounts in Neverwinter. This subject has been discussed before: the vocal minority in the forums does not in any way compare to the thousands upon thousands of happy players who are not perturbed enough to submit complaints, whine on forums, or scream on the phone to support.
I get that there are some who are genuinely upset and frustrated with their game experience, but it's quite obvious that the vast majority of players obviously are not as bound up about it as the forum-whiners. Why? They either simply don't care about it enough, don't play as much, or don't ever experience the type of ongoing problems that you're describing. In short, they either don't care or it isn't happening. That's why it's freakin hilarious that people get so worked up about it to rant on a forum over and over, listing their complaints about a FREE game.
Now I must return to my lucrative profession, crafting many, many pairs of pants (which by the way, takes about 3 gateway logins per day of 2 minutes each).
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It sounds that way because it is that way.
This is how it's worked up to mod 3: the community complains about something. The Devs fix something completely different and the original thing that people actually care about gets worse.
That's been the theme and we are tired of it.
There have been posts upon posts, detailed posts, containing math and very well articulated arguments and explanations. There is no excuse, "we told you so" is going to be the continuing theme here get used to it.
There are A LOT of positive things in mod3, some really good content and changes. There are many more negative things that have existed for a LONG LONG time and these things have been explained to them over and over by the player base.
So no, no mercy.
P.S. As others have said, we would not be coming here and complaining if we didn't both like and care about the game. I really like this game, because of that, watching the Devs ignore the important things and focus on the unimportant, flashy, garbage is very very aggravating.
People stealing your quest objectives while you're killing the mobs around them. More evident in mod3 since it takes longer to clear groups.
I like doable challenge but if it gets repetetive (dailies)I'd just rather sleepwalk through it.
Not liking the way they managed to break Death Forge either.
But yeah old bugs that don't get fixed don't give very professional image about Cryptic.
Heroic encounters are nice but they are too common and don't see them keeping my interest for very long seeing the same ones constantly. In my opinion they should happen more like arc falls in Defiance.
PVE side of Mod3 is actually way better than that of previous mods. You actually have lots of quests without combat in the beginning and you can get good bit of backstory from npcs.
my hope is that it will bring people closer together now that we all fight on the same battle fields but probably hoping for too much
As for raging, like I said, the key word here is "civilized".
P.S. You should really give 1 character bound retraining token to each character that has had its build negatively affected by the changes. I mean, people can't be expected to pay extra money to retrain just because they were badly affected by some change. That would be wrong. Hence the retraining token should be given but character bound, and only to characters that have been affected (i.e. their intended build messed up). GWF is a good example. Many are probably in a jam now due to unexpected changes.
The trouble with this approach, too, is that the ignored bugs just build up. Established players don't notice, but try having a friend come fresh to the game, asking you why nothing seems to work properly. Because this state of affairs happened gradually, it was like an exercise in frog boiling.
Personally, I am running out of answers when someone asks me why so much of the game doesn't work.
Yeah me too to be honest. it is because of the expansions but its also because the game requires itself to be bigger or else people who complete the content get bored and stop playing.
because it wasnt big to start with and the bugs simply just are new ones have been happening each time it expands eventually when the game gets big enough I have to believe the bugs will die. For a while the bigger necessary ones have been killed but more keep popping up and the smaller ones have been left behind; it will likely be perpetual for a while and maybe it will stop.
but then again I'm patient enough to wait for that day been here this long and momma didnt raise no quitter lol.
I also think that HR should get a respec as well owing to the new paragon as every other class got one when they got the new paragon also got one.
Anyway I think that the forums should be a place to learn things about classes places dungeons not a place to complain thats all, though not likely to happen now.
In most estabilished MMOs companies are starting to make small dedicated teams (even a single dev would help a lot) tackling those small but most annoying bugs. Often they could be solved by changing a line or two of code. It can't require 10 people 10 days to fix the mail "autoscrolling" or the fey thistle boon.
The ZEN market has appreciated rapidly against the astral diamond recently to 500ad/ZEN.
That's a huge "thank you" to the developers already.
If everyone is satisfied and happy in a game, then the forums and particularly feedback and discussion threads will lose their meaning.
That there are people who might not like what you like is a fact of life.
Funny chaps, they are. Now I must return to crafting many, many pairs of pants.
FACT: 83% of all statistics are made up.
People aren't complaining about minor bugs or <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> like that. They are complaining about major game mechanics that are broken, and have been made worse with each content update recently.
People were not asking for any major content, they were not asking for new instances.
They have been asking for 1 or 2 more PvP maps, maybe a PvP mode but no big deal if you can't get to it for a while.
They have been asking for fixes to broken and exploitable PvE instances.
They have been asking for foundry fixes and additions so that they can continue to make their own content.
They have been asking for Class changes that will make their class useful in both PvE and PvP.
Instead we get repeated buffs to the already overpowered classes, and nerfs for those classes that are not desired (both direct and indirect).
We get a huge open world PvP map that nobody asked for or wanted.
We get a huge PvE area around the PvP area with heroic quests and blah blah blah...
No one was asking for ANY of this (by no one I of course mean not enough people to even start a conversation on the forums about these things, or create any kind of "buzz" about these topics)
It really feels like we said "hey can we have green?" and they said "Sure!! Here is some Red, Purple, Orange, and Yellow!"
I'm not knocking the new content really, its cool, its neat, I'll enjoy it. But a lot more people would have been a lot more happy if they had simply addressed the few easy fixes we have been asking for FOR MONTHS.
And yes nowhere did it say they were guaranteed, but precedent said they were expected. Even community moderators told us to expect them. Not once did anyone post anything indicating they weren't going to happen.
Just a really bad move imo. If they were going to do it this way, they should've let us know beforehand and gotten all the backlash out of the way then.
I do state things I am not a fan of, but in a fairly diplomatic/constructive way. At least I like to think I do! lol
Basically...
Just think of it as 8 extra slots for your bank then.
If you want to talk to people who are happy with the game, then try logging into the game. Generally, happy people will just smile and wave. It's the unhappy ones standing on the street corners, picketing with signs.
Generally, when people are happy they aren't complaining and they are playing. When they get upset or find something they don't like, they naturally want to let the company know, so they come to the forum where they can do just that. When they're happy, they're playing and spending.
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Yes thats what i am thinking - cryptic is not responsible for you having fun - you are!
Haha do you follow Zone chat? All happy people there - right. In your guild nobody is complaining?
Again - im not speaking about saying thank you im speaking more of why the people dont feel the urge to say what they like and share that. As you are not able to formulate that.
Your Zen exchange example is not really viable. If the exchange rate still would be 300 AD / Zen it would mean people are buying Zen alot. Right now its just evrybody is trading their ingame currency for Zen.
You can say smoking is bad for ur health as a fact of life and leave it that way.... You know because of that "fact of life" i started this discussion...
"They have no life so they play this game all day and night cataloging every bug they can find so they can bash the developers' over the head with it.
Funny chaps, they are. Now I must return to crafting many, many pairs of pants."
The pot should be wary of calling the kettle black.
1. blackicegear is worthless for, at least 95% of all people...
2. invocation is something nobody cares about
3. well.. thats a thing that could happen anywhere in the game
4. caer koenig lags even worse than enclave for most people
5. bank slots are neat but not necessary so meh...
6. enchants are useless for most classes and speccs
7. artifacts are <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, and most people already have a better one to boost their stats
8. who cares about lore
9. there is no challenge, people already solo the 3man heroic encounters and some dungeons...
PS:
i play since start of the beta
Wow mayb you should stop now because obviously u r stuffed with such a negativity that makes it hard to understand why you spend your free time on this game.
"who cares about lore"
"Artifacts are <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>" - speechless - wonder why rank 5 and peridots stacks are so expensive. But mayb you are just saying most of the people are idiots that dont get it...
Invocation is a feature I really have come to enjoy.
True.
I experience no lag or graphic issues in IWD at all.
Valid opinion.
Useless? Hardly. They add a ton of stats and needed GS to get into delves to get better gear.
I still love my first artifacts. They are not <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> to me and my Waters saves my life more than I can count and my merchant is just so darn handy.
I do!
Just because it isn't challenging to one or doesn't appear to be challenging to others, it doesn't mean it's not challenging to anyone.
PS: I play since middle of Alpha.
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I'll be honest I am loving this expansion... its the best one yet.
Its extremely challenging, and I can actually die in this content. Its a LOT of fun and a huge challenge that is nearly addictive...
But I'm not going to kid myself here. There's a lot of Bugs that were reported during testing on Preview, and it seems many of them were not addressed. And its things that range from Encounter Spawns to abillities not functioning correctly. Throw in some reworks of old abillities without offering a rebuilt token to those classes, and yeah... there's people upset and with good reason.
Some of these things were not handled very well by cryptic.... and a great majority of it is deserved.
But at the same time... the actual expansion content.... if you overlook the issues.... is some of the best I've ever seen in NWN and most exciting.
Not to mention we need to grind A LOT with EVERY character we want in Icewind Dale. And trust me, they will probably make Icewind Dale-grinding a requirement for the next content too, meaning even more boring grinding before we can get to the new stuff we actually want.
While ideally true honestly it seems that a lot of the time it sees that the rage comes from people that not only hate the game themselves but hate the very idea that other people might think that the game and Cryptic is anything other than utter scum to be reviled. I've seen tons of posts where if anyone posted anything even slightly positive about a change, particularly a nerf or new feature you'd have to pay for, they're flamed to hell and back as "pathetic Cryptic brown-nosers"
Now thankfully that does seem to be getting a bit rarer, at least here anyhow, I think some of them might of migrated to the Star Trek Online forums instead
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You don't seem to understand that negativity on the forum in most cases doesn't mean you can't enjoy the game.
I have to echo Zeb on this one, as this kind of thing really bugs me.
I care!
I grew up in the Forgotten Realms (not physically in it obviously) and those details are important. The rest of your points, others have already addressed.
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All you have to do to confirm my supposedly made-up statistic is to compare the number of people complaining on the forums (which anyone could do) and compare them to the number active accounts in Neverwinter. This subject has been discussed before: the vocal minority in the forums does not in any way compare to the thousands upon thousands of happy players who are not perturbed enough to submit complaints, whine on forums, or scream on the phone to support.
I get that there are some who are genuinely upset and frustrated with their game experience, but it's quite obvious that the vast majority of players obviously are not as bound up about it as the forum-whiners. Why? They either simply don't care about it enough, don't play as much, or don't ever experience the type of ongoing problems that you're describing. In short, they either don't care or it isn't happening. That's why it's freakin hilarious that people get so worked up about it to rant on a forum over and over, listing their complaints about a FREE game.
Now I must return to my lucrative profession, crafting many, many pairs of pants (which by the way, takes about 3 gateway logins per day of 2 minutes each).