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unrealized1977
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Dev's please strip out the AD Reward for running PVP, there are more pugs in PVP that have sub 8K GS that just sit in spawn to get the credit for the match. There is no GS matching nothing, and the leavers penalty does nothing to phase people.
I think if you removed the AD reward and just gave glory, it would eliminate the PVP group that doesn't really belong and just wants the quick AD.
I think if you removed the AD reward and just gave glory, it would eliminate the PVP group that doesn't really belong and just wants the quick AD.
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So because a few afk for 4k AD everyone else should be penalized? You for real?
What I wanna ask is, are those 30 mins queu penalty keep on being deducted even when the char is offline?
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So, this thread is ridiculous for me, as I do not see any reason to force players to firstly buy them better gear and then start to farm for PvP gear and Astral Diamonds.
Really? I got a DC last time in a Domination due to our old cables in our part of the city and you cry for such penalties? It does not sound reasonable to punish players to death just because of choleric feelings during PvP (as some PvP players seem to have).
I think for queue to pvp one should have a minimum tenacity score at lvl 60. Yesterday i;ve encounter a CW with 44 green items that was *****ing that we dont do enough to win a game... i told him to check the ah for cheap 60 blues at least (they are around 100 ad), several hours later i;ve seen him again with the same greens.
I dont want to be in the same team with such people... i cant kick him, i cant ignore him, i cant leave without punishment and he can troll all he wants.
Edit: Entry blue pvp gear should be free tbh at lvl 60, full set. Also one shouldnt be able to buy profound without a grim version, i;ve encounter alot of people doing that (no point in telling how good their performance is). Mind that a full grim u can get in less than 1 week with casual gameplay (1 h per day).
but you have to pay 300k AD to change form league A (A for Action) to league B (B for Berserker).
Everyone starts in league A.
Switching from B to A also costs 300k AD.
Same rewards on both queues.
Changing queue should only be allowed once a month.
Action, Berserker 'cause I don't want to name them "apprentice" and "better".
If there were some entry PvP equip the point of an minimum requirement were another story, but right now I do not see any sort of requirements justified. But in the end noone is able to prevent people from trolling around at the moment. I can only hope that the developers find ways to help with them someday.
The people who are good or care PVP usually queue as 5. So for the rest of the crowd you end up with 4 scrub teammates fighting either 5 scrubs enemy or 5 pro PVP player, it is not a fun experience either way imo.
They need to introduce ranking system. OH WAIT! They already did, but how......
Oh well, PVP is actually dead in this game for the majority I would say.
The PVP in this game is not competitive for 99% of the player base.
A. You are not BIS.
B. You don't always have a legit comp or your enemy won't.
C. Class imbalance.
D. You can't guarantee the skill level from both team are on the same standing.
There are 1% players who gets to truly enjoy PVP, that is about it.
Also means that people will be out to improve their personal score vs doing what needs to be done for team.
It is not a good idea to remove rewards like this from PvP, every PvP in games needs to have all sorts of people. If you limit it to a certain amount of people the PvP quickly gets boring and very predictable not to mention you'll end up seeing the same 5 guys against you every time.
It's almost as if people are totally oblivious to the changes coming in a few hours when the game goes back up. The worst thread was the one saying the devs don't do any PvP stuff anymore. -_-
Also the problem they have if they did add a gear score based system is that they couldn't make it an obvious divide. If they do make it "anything above 10k" then people could easily make the best perfect vorpal'd GWF with 9.9k GS and just troll that PvP up big time. Too be honest they could do with having a system that makes it slightly more likely to get pared up with people with similar gear score and then allow the gear score to be affected with your wins like the current system is supposed to apparently do.
A Playlist of my CO PvP video's
I was refering to those Disconnecters that is intended as a means to switch to other toons...
I have the impression that your opinion is not far from the truth.
Funny thing, to get tenacity PvP gear, you have to play a lot of PvP as most items are BoP.
As you have no tenacity you will very likely lose. As you lose you gain only very little glory, so you have to queue often.
Seems not very logical to me.
Well, try ah and search items with tenacity u;ll be surprised how cheap they are, blue items, think u can get a full set for less than 1k ad.
As i said at lvl 60 one should get a quest and get a full blue pvp set for free so we can avoid alot of grief. Also chat should be disabled apart from Party/Guild chat so we can avoid some nasty moments.
Actually Yes, Yes it does matter, the pug who is sitting at the campfire could potentially be taking a spot that someone who is geared could actually come in and help.
I think there should be an push option, think of it this way the CW push, if you remain idle for 15 seconds at the campfire, there should be an automatic push out of spawn into the match.
This is exactly what I am saying, you remove the 4K reward, then PVP is there for the more serious players. The causals now have a place to go its called open world PVP.
To your point, the penalty should be a lot stiffer and make it account wide, I would also like to see a gear counter introduced. I have seen 1 GWF yesterday proc a soulforge, swap gear to barkshield and then back to a soulforge. Then need to deter this and put a counter on items that are swapped similar to the tymora coin etc.
The sitter's toon would be pushed into the battlefield, stand there, eventually die. respawn at campfire. Rinse and repeat.
Where is YOUR benefit from ejecting a toon that decided a match is lost into harms way?
or even
Where is YOUR benefit from ejecting a toon into harms way?
I do not intend to make this look egoistic or childish of you, though it probably might to some look exactly like that.
Ranked matches count towards the leaderboard
It's always amazed me how many ego-strokers we have on free games these days. Let's just, for a minute, forget that Neverwinter is a PvE game with some PvP content and that Perfect World is notorious for P2W games, exactly where do you get off in trying to act superior on a game with subpar PvP?
It's obvious that NW has a lot of problems with PvP and matchmaking in general. Half of the problem is the people who take it too seriously. That attitude belongs in a SSF4 tournament, not a PvE MMO with badly designed BGs.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
And open world PvP is no place for the undergeared. They will last around a nanosecond.
Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
Darquess - Soulbinder
Aren't many sports considered games?
Yeah.
A Playlist of my CO PvP video's
And what happens when your whole party is camping because a premade has just run train on your 5-man PUG? Pushing people into that fight and prolonging it is pointless. The sooner that kind of match ends the better for everybody.