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PvP: What is your little secret?

fgreyspearfgreyspear Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 472 Bounty Hunter
edited May 2014 in PvE Discussion
I want you to share your little PvP secrets.

One little secret I constantly keep using is the Potion of Heroism. I have hardly seen anyone using it in PvP so I am going to write about it here. I think it is quite a nice little helper and very easy to use.

It can be had from one of the stores in Sharandar and costs 15 Gold Crescents. If you have a ton of these Gold Crescents and like to PvP then this is a nice way to make use of them.

The potion increases some of your attributes and what makes it interesting for PvP is that its effect stays on after death and for an entire hour. So you do not have to apply it again and again, but can go back into the fight right away.

What is your little secret?
Stay frosty.
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  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Any advantage helps, and a good tip for those starting out.
  • kattefjaeskattefjaes Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,270 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    fgreyspear wrote: »
    What is your little secret?

    I go to the red points and stand on them until they are blue. I try to kill or scare off the red mans, who want to make the blue points red.
  • demidogzdemidogz Member Posts: 259 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    I use all the Ardent Coin elixirs and also that Sharandar potion to perk me up, because that's totally fair and normal to do so....

    Wait, never mind.
  • desertravelerdesertraveler Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Tymora's coin and pocket pet, lots of coin jingling right before match.
  • proneificationproneification Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 494 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    Yup, make sure you come up with all the available pots&elixirs visible on you when we fight :)

    Earns you lots and lots of respect in the PvP community.

    (actually not, it just says "help, I'm desperate to win and I don't know what else to do")
  • fgreyspearfgreyspear Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 472 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    Yup, make sure you come up with all the available pots&elixirs visible on you when we fight :)

    Earns you lots and lots of respect in the PvP community.

    (actually not, it just says "help, I'm desperate to win and I don't know what else to do")
    Sounds more like you are being miserable and want to bite others for using potions. ;)

    Anything that gives a major advantage will get used by the majority immediately, making it a must-have, and the wide use equalizes it to the point where nobody gets an advantage from it unless someone forgets about it. This makes the little advantages not so little after all.

    The standard potions are somewhat questionable, but like skalt112 said, does every advantage help. The effects of these are lost after death and I admit that the time to reapply them may not be worth it. However, it can mean that your team, when using potions at start, will win the first tower fight and will go in the lead. Winning this first encounter can reassure your team and improve moral. While moral is not measurable easily does a team with little moral more often end up camping at the fire place, and with blame being pass around on the chat, than not.

    Of course I do give players with a lot of active potions more priority when trying to find a killable target, just to see these effects removed. But I also do have respect for a TR who can not only perma-cloak but also has a ton of potions active. If that TR knows what he is doing will it be pretty hard for you to kill him and to get all these effects removed.
    Stay frosty.
  • proneificationproneification Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 494 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    fgreyspear wrote: »
    Sounds more like you are being miserable and want to bite others for using potions. ;)

    You can use them alright, I take greater pleasure in killing those with elixirs. As I said, in the PvP community the general consensus is that it is a desperate move, and we often laugh at those stacking elixir over elixir, especially as they still lose.
  • tittlemcgrittletittlemcgrittle Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    You can use them alright, I take greater pleasure in killing those with elixirs. As I said, in the PvP community the general consensus is that it is a desperate move, and we often laugh at those stacking elixir over elixir, especially as they still lose.

    Pretty much just here to agree with persephone, basically we all could do this, but we chose not to. In order to save our bankroll.
  • godhricgodhric Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 437 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    I'd say that person's who's using elixirs is able to utilize his arsenal.. which isnt wrong at all.. Or else, why would there be such items if no one's gonna use it? Let the judgemental people have their own opinion(s). In the end, the game's about our own pleasure..

    So, don't mind what other people might think.. Use whatever your heart's desire... It's legit and smart.
    Other people might think those that dont use anything at all might be too stingy OR poor OR saving up OR isnt knowledgable enough to actually use it, thus going bare...
    There's really no defined rule here.. do whatever we think is best. Thats the essence.
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    Usually using potions is considered in bad taste when fighting amongst pugs.

    There is nothing wrong with it. It doesn't violate TOS.

    I really don't care either way. Its just a sentiment from the pvp community that I am parroting.
  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Not using elixers or whatever is just a made up rule pvp players use to tout how superior they are. I guess the really good players notice and identify all the icons on other players,but I never notice them, which means I will always be second rate.
  • colonelwingcolonelwing Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    These potions are actually a great way, of getting closer to being on par with the plenty of credit card heroes & early exploiters out there.

  • proneificationproneification Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 494 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    These potions are actually a great way, of getting closer to being on par with the plenty of credit card heroes & early exploiters out there.

    Who can then just open the store and buy same pots if they feel they are a bit underperforming.

    Then both of you wasted AD or ardent coins. With the exception that this spent AD hurts you more than the CCH guys you seem to hate ;)
  • slushlikewindslushlikewind Member Posts: 272 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    Secret no.1 : Be good in PVP

    Secret no.2 : Learn to AFK or just play sneaky when your team are clueless, this avoids depressing PVP experience. (Apply to soloqueue only)

    Secret no.3 : Join a respectful PVP guild and play with the top tier players.

    Notice how progressive these are? Baby step 1 2 3.
  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Secret no.1 : Be good in PVP

    Secret no.2 : Learn to AFK or just play sneaky when your team are clueless, this avoids depressing PVP experience. (Apply to soloqueue only)

    Secret no.3 : Join a respectful PVP guild and play with the top tier players.

    Notice how progressive these are? Baby step 1 2 3.

    Yea , i can't get past step 1.
  • colonelwingcolonelwing Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Who can then just open the store and buy same pots if they feel they are a bit underperforming.

    Then both of you wasted AD or ardent coins. With the exception that this spent AD hurts you more than the CCH guys you seem to hate ;)


    Right, but who said that it gives them an advantage over me? Money can't get you actual gaming skill or intelligence... Quite a few overgeared people are pretty delusional - in other words, credit cards heroes. Ask yourself why you cry so much on these very forums. Bingo, because you are not as good of a gamer as you think you are, even though you seem to be stacked to the max plus utilizing exploits/glitches. You're entirely missing the point.


    So please, spare me/us your nonsense for once.

  • slushlikewindslushlikewind Member Posts: 272 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    skalt112 wrote: »
    Yea , i can't get past step 1.

    It takes time. Most current top tier players have spend countless hour PVPing hard in order to get where they are.

    In general I find trying out all class in PVP help building up your match up knowledge, and skill are basically only acquired by actual play time, 1 v 1 is the best way to practice if you really want to get better in a short amount of time. Rotation awareness would come once you play more higher end PVP matches.
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    skalt112 wrote: »
    Yea , i can't get past step 1.

    You can't buy an emblem, rank 10s, perfect bilethorn and spend 5 minutes reading the perma-TR rotation?

    Maybe you meant to say, its not worth it spending that much real money to play pvp at a high level in this game
  • ortzhyortzhy Member Posts: 1,103 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    play all classes, you can understand what kills you and in time you can try counters.
  • kolevrakolevra Member Posts: 345 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    My secret to enjoying PvP is patience :p

    PS. Rather hypocritical that people are criticizing Potions and Elixirs while spamming Legendary Emblems...
    --- Ranked matches need to be solo-queue only
    Enforce rainbow parties in PvP ---- 10v10 PvP ----
  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    kolevra wrote: »
    My secret to enjoying PvP is patience :p

    PS. Rather hypocritical that people are criticizing Potions and Elixirs while spamming Legendary Emblems...

    I did find that funny. "advantages can't be used unless....they cost a bajillion ad!"
  • rittzbitzrittzbitz Member Posts: 116 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    I don't get the flak for potions and elixirs. As a guild we were going to start doing it for every match, including the summer festival potions and the Heroes Feast. I think we just decided not to care, not like they make that big of a difference.

    The ardent ones are more powerful, but meh, easy as hell to get.
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited April 2014
    . . . I always drink potions regardless if I am PvPing or PvEing. This is because I have stacks of them on all my 60's. I don't drink them "for" the advantage but simply because I have so many and I like buffs.

    . . . Tip: If you see a mage using Shard of Endless Avalanche, your team should focus on him first, then the cleric. Mages specced into Shard for PvP can really dish out a lot of damage, more-so than most other specs I've seen - there's exceptions of course.
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    zebular wrote: »
    [/COLOR]. . . Tip: If you see a mage using Shard of Endless Avalanche, your team should focus on him first, then the cleric. Mages specced into Shard for PvP can really dish out a lot of damage, more-so than most other specs I've seen - there's exceptions of course.

    If you see a mage period, kill it first.

    Mages have no constant defensive ability to rely on
  • slushlikewindslushlikewind Member Posts: 272 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2014
    If you see a mage period, kill it first.

    Mages have no constant defensive ability to rely on

    No **** lol. I hate it when my teammate just pile up on the enemy GWF when he is under unstoppable, when I see that I just afk lol. Sad.
  • lucifron44lucifron44 Member Posts: 417 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    fgreyspear wrote: »
    What is your little secret?

    I nvm the result, there are too many things out of my control.
    Russian leaderboard first page. The proof.
  • oicidrazoicidraz Member Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Speaking about the Potion of Heroism... Somebody hate the fact that you have to equip it to use?, I use Coin and Pet so in the 3rd slot I have to put the healing potion for PvP/PvE, and when I want to use PoH I:
    Equip them -> Use -> Unequip Them -> Equip healing potion for PvP/PvE...
    If they could be used from the inventory (without equipping them) it would be great :D
  • twilightwatchmantwilightwatchman Member Posts: 2,007 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    My tip of the day? Don't blow 19k glory by accidentally clicking on the wrong piece of Profound gear.:mad:
    Jenna Sunsoul - Justice Tankadin
    Aelar Hawkwind - Archer
    Karrin Feywinter - Mistress of Flame
    Errin Duskwalker - Executioner
    Darquess - Soulbinder
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    My secret? I'd rather run off and survive to continue the fight than quickly die on a node, so don't always be a hero. Running off can also have the added benefit of drawing the enemy off into a chase. Even better when I can pull two away with my GF. Two idiots chasing me for a kill equates to a numerical advantage for my team on the nodes.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Pretty much just here to agree with persephone, basically we all could do this, but we chose not to. In order to save our bankroll.

    My 15.8 GWF uses Wild Storm most of the time and I win PVP matches most of time. I've never gotten any comments from players about it, I guess that's due to them being too busy trying to survive my 10k Takedowns and 20K IBStrikes. In the game, just like in real life there is only one thing you need to focus on and that is what you can do. No point focusing on what others do 'cause you dont control others - you're in charge of yourself. And what is that PVP community you speak of, you got an HQ where you hang out for tea and cookies and war stories ?
    Row, row, row your boat, Gently down the stream.
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