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Tamarlune bars drop from lockboxes nerfed?
rlrobr
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I have opened around 25 lockboxes since the first ones (Nightmare) until the most recent (Unearthed). By opening the previous lockboxes I always got at least 10 Tarmalune bars from each, sometimes more, but never less.
I've opened just 2 unearthed lockboxes so far, but both game me only 3 bars each. Has the drop rate been severely nerfed or have I been extremely unlucky?
I've opened just 2 unearthed lockboxes so far, but both game me only 3 bars each. Has the drop rate been severely nerfed or have I been extremely unlucky?
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I still believe the best lockboxes are the Nightmare boxes because of the ridiculously higher chance (in comparison to all others) of getting something at least decent. Only my own perspective, obviously. Others will feel differently.
Based on the trade bar nerf it can only go up from here because these are the only ones that can be sold.
It seems that they are trying to push up the prices of C wards in AH to be at least on par with the ridiculously priced C ward in Zen market... (~380k AD right now in ZAX)
Hopefully the prices of C ward in AH will not rise too fast ....
Well that was probably to be excepted. The ZEN price never made sense in a way that nobody with a sane mind would buy them and earlier changes already indicated which road they would take. People have advised since Module 2 to load up on Coals, this might be the last chance.
That said, can you still get more Trade Bars from earlier lockboxes?
I've opened over 300 boxes already and some of them gave me only 1 bar lol
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Yes, provided you have them stored since they no longer drop.
I fell sorry for the new players - how can they compete with old players if they need to expend ~= 1.1 million AD just to get a Vorpal enchantment (considering coal prices near to the Zen market)?
Sadly, this game is not friendly to new players and most of the new folks don't stick around due to this.
Well you can get 999 Rusted at 25-30k at the AH. Think I'm going to grab purples from the new lockbox from the AH then and keep opening Rusted Iron. Leadership > Alchemy anyway and I won't really need extra Gauntlets at a certain point as well.
Feywild and Dark Forest gave around 8-70 randomly
Rusted, I haven't opened a lot, but I think I've seen anywhere from 5-50
Unearthed, haven't opened any.
Nightmare boxes can give as few as 1 and as many as 90 trade bars in my personal experience. It probably does average to around 10 per box.
I've never opened any of the others.
As with anything RNG, if you don't like the results you're getting, stop and try again later.
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I'm assuming they nerfed the bar drops on all boxes then. As I said in my earlier post, I opened a lot of boxes last summer. I want to say around 40 or 50, and as a result I was able to buy blue trade bar mount. When I came back to playing at the end of December my CW still had 742 bars on her. I can honestly specifically remember getting drops of 20-50 bars from the original 3 lock boxes.
As someone mentioned early in this thread... the only reason I can find behind this nerf is to promote the Sale of Coalescents through the Zen Store, but I find this comical as even when Trade bars were coming in higher amounts the Wards were still around 160k because more people were enchanting back then. I think the refining system really slowed down the upgrading and now they are trying to make up for loss ward sales.
Just an FYI, wards are currently around 172k... That's a 40k increase in the past week, So their plan might actually work if it keeps going up, but we will suffer because then the cost of enchantments will go up.
Sad times.
Sad times.
Very smart comment here. Trade Bars were pretty much the safeguard for an erratic RNG.
Nothing in the box is worthwhile besides that small chance of either of the mounts. And I dont figure it worth it since the chance is so small, the trade bars being so low to fall back on just made it even more not worth it. If they going to keep that up. I'll never consider doing it again especially buying with zen.
I've already decided, that I dont care what they do with coal wards. No matter the state, I am not buying any with zen as they are apparently trying to funnel people to do since the almost non existant rate they come from invocation.
It can only go up from there, and this WILL end up hurting everybody.
The only reasonable solution if they intend to actually sell wards is to drop the price to maybe 500 ZEN. This way will ensure that there is a reasonable source of coal wards. Otherwise they are going to end up not selling keys nor coalescent wards, which, in turn, will hurt the development of the game, and the users. This IS a loss/loss for everybody.
Cryptic: Lower prices sell way more, specially since the cost to you is esentially 0. At 1000 ZEN, almost nobody is going to buy your wards, and people will simply do without upgrading their Epic enchants.
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Yeah, I was planning on doing this too, like 150 of each kind of box (because that's about how many keys I'm sitting on right now).
Whenever they get the transfer up and working again....
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I am also quite certain that the majority of players don't read forums or have any clue about how the economic system works in Neverwinter.
I have just recently started playing this game and have spent quite an amount of real money on the game so far but tbh I am not sure that I gonna continue playing after understanding how the company is manupilating the ingame economic system as they do.
I know, it's free for play and it's my choice to play and/or spend real money but it seems that they are getting greedy.
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New players are going to feel the pain more than anyone else.
Yep precisely.
So, I did run this last night on Owlbear. My notes are at home with the actual numbers on what I pulled, but I will say that from a test of opening 150 of each type of lockbox, for a grand total of 750 lockboxes opened, not one of them dropped more than 20 tradebars except for the ones containing an auto-open tradebar jackpot.
I used to occasionally but consistently get drops of 65, 72, 90, etc. tradebars, which was in addition to the other thing in the lockbox as opposed to getting a jackpot which *is* your lockbox prize. And this was running them in small batches where I'd open 10-20 at a time, not a huge run of hundreds of boxes in a row.
From the look of things, tradebar drops have been altered to fall within a range of 1-20 from (estimated) 1-100. While the higher drops weren't common, they did serve to bump up the amount of bars a player could reasonably expect to receive over time.
I'm not a math whiz. It's possible that opening boxes with a larger range of possible bar drops was resulting in a much higher average number of tradebars per box than the advertised "approximately 10" when considered en masse. On paper, it seems to me that a range of 1-20 is closer to 10 than 1-100 if there is no weighting. And that's the kind of condition to which we're never going to be privy.
I also now know what Silverjon looks like mounted on a Nightmare, Stag, and Owlbear.
I intend to repeat the test on Mimic.
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