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Companion Upgrade way too expensive !
matgog87
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Well, i consider upgrading your companion is really expensive compared to getting a companion from Zen Market.
Lets take an example:
Upgrade your lvl 15 companion to lvl 30:
Total AD cost : 300.000 + 500.000 + 750.000 = 1.550.000
Let's assume the price of each Zen to 337 (Today price, february 7):
1.550.000 / 337 = 4600 Zen
Total cost of upgrading from 15 to 30: $46
Total cost of a lvl 30 companion: $ 25
Lets take an example:
Upgrade your lvl 15 companion to lvl 30:
Total AD cost : 300.000 + 500.000 + 750.000 = 1.550.000
Let's assume the price of each Zen to 337 (Today price, february 7):
1.550.000 / 337 = 4600 Zen
Total cost of upgrading from 15 to 30: $46
Total cost of a lvl 30 companion: $ 25
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Times change very quickly And you had to grow up early. A house in smoking ruins and the bodies at your feet ~Iron Maiden
Once that happens, we can revisit the cost of upgrading non-store pets and how it compares to the Z-store price.
It's a process that not wholly necessary and there is a way to go about it without spending any money if you like.
So, I propose basing the cost on the highest AD/ZEN exchange rate of 500 AD per ZEN. 2500 * 500 = 1,250,000 total to go from White to Purple (almost 20% less than current). This is still approximately $37 at the OP's current quoted exchange rate, but is actually not bad considering it is paid in three "installments". Call it a finance fee.
I would further suggest dividing the tiers in such a way that it is cheaper to get started with upgrading to motivate players to at least spend a little to try it:
White to Green 200,000 AD (33% less than current)
Green to Blue 400,000 AD
Blue to Purple 650,000 AD
That makes the three installments out to be less than $6, $12, and $20 respectively at the quoted current exchange rate.
Total White to Blue would only be 600,000 AD (25% less than current). This is an important price point because it unlocks all equipment and rune slots. For only 600k AD, I think most players would certainly rank up every companion they intend to actually summon to at least this point. I believe that there would be a net gain in revenue generation because of the increase in the number of companions being upgraded to Blue. Which also promotes gameplay (even more revenue) to gear them up.
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So lemme ask you this then. How/where do I buy a purple Ioun Stone of Allure or a purple Hawk?
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accurate pricing. This should be perfect and what we need.
Even worse, only augments are useful. Companions actually HINDER end game progress due to the horrible AI and the way they aggro enemies.
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Pretty much, yeah. I'd upgrade some of mine, if it felt like remotely worth the AD. As it is you are better of spending the AD and pretty much everything else, meaning it's essentially a non-feature or even worse, a trap for new players.
What the hell are you two on about : 02-07-2014, 06:23 AM
The first post in this thread took place on Feb 7 2014... Today is the 9th...... EH? Two days does not make a necro....
I would still like to see the upgrade costs brought within the realm of reason. For one it's a progression system that could make collecting companions a lot more interesting. For another, each companion has slightly different abilities. It would be fun to take even a white tier companion and eventually level them to purple tier having powerful abilities. And finally, for the purposes and sake of "RPG" it is fun to grow a companion purely for the story of our adventuring journey.
The more that can reasonably be invested in our characters and companions the deeper the attachment. I hope Cryptic and PWE can see that as an opportunity to build a quality community and to make money rather than rely on big up front numbers for purchases.
As for the high price, you must also consider that even if you are unwilling to pay it, there are people whom are, and this is _very_ good for you. The game's economy is based on what most closely resembles a "silver standard." This means there is a "fixed" amount of silver (AD) at any one time to trade. However, you could, as a person, just go out in the world and mine (do AD daily quests) to "find" more silver (AD). Yet, unlike the real world where actually mining silver is difficult, in Neverwinter everyone can do it easily, should they choose.
Every day each character can add 24k AD to the economy. If this was allowed unchecked, the total amount of AD to trade between players would simple continue to increase making each individual buying power of 1 AD reduced. I.E. massive inflation in what you have to pay even for simple items.
By having very high priced (yet desirable) upgrades for AD, each time one of those is purchased, a massive amount of AD is removed from the economy, thus keeping inflation in check. Likewise those who buy Zen with AD to get store items remove massive amounts of AD from the economy.
I agree that the horse upgrades are too high, and would be more effective at removing AD if they were in a price that more people would buy, but in general, the high upgrade costs of some things in the game is very necessary. If you want lower upgrade costs, the only other option is to lower the amount of AD that can be refined per day, which would probably annoy more people than it would sooth those seeking cheaper upgrades.
For my game experience (all these months), I realized that Gold is much more difficult to attach which AD. Despite Gold currently being used for little else. Despite being given the Gold "killing monsters", not all characters can "kill" in bulk easily.
If Gold was used for more practical things (like farm AD, upgrade companion mont upgrade, manufacture of items / rare armor etc), many of the financial problems would be solved Neverwinter.
In D & D book (and Neverwinter Nights) Gold was used until to activate certain spells and rituals.
Then we would have basically three types of player.
1) that invests in Zen
** (using real moneyby not having time)
2) that invests in AD
** (have a little more time / patience and can meet all the rules for 24k Daily AD)
3) that invests in gold
*** (have much time and can spend hours killing monsters)
Use Gold for enchantments was the first step, and I liked the idea. The Gold should be used for more things, primarily exclusive.