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It s ridiculous, if they are worried about pvp balance with aoe attacks then create 2 difirent mechanics (one is an aoe the other has limited targets), most aoes hit aroun 5 tgts, but in dngs you are swarmed by 15 to 30 guys at a time, it will be better for EVERYONE if you can keep guys at bay better. Not that pvp teams are all togheter in the midle of an aoe anyway, they are usually disperse or running around, so it s as pointless as it is.
Frontline Surge 3 targets, AS 15 and whatnot, it s just ridiculous.
Frontline Surge 3 targets, AS 15 and whatnot, it s just ridiculous.
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I've seen alot of pimped out toons that deal less damage than my Ioun Stone because of bad feats and encounter choices
It s not about dmg it s about resisting damage, having 20 mobs around you. A 8.9 at a T2 boss doesn t survive a minute, to that you must add some cheap shots that knock you prone over an enemy aoe that kills you instantly. If a group of 11k can t finish a dng, an 8,9 group has no chance at all. T1 can be finished; but T1 equipment, with lvl 5/6 enchants and artifact reachs almost 11k, and there is no reason to force ioun on ppl to finish a dng.
Frankly, a class like a GWF could probably run around and draw aggro from all the mobs as far as the eye can see, and then simply spam AoEs and farm loot like crazy. We used to see something like this all the time in games about a decade ago, when the MMOG genre was still young.
If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
Outside of t2's GWF's can do this now, if the cap was up I could probably solo zerg farm almost anything in game. (assuming you could get into t2's solo, which you can't atm)
You are just wrong dude, AoE target limit is annoying and in some cases makes no sense, but without it the game would be even easier.
GF is underpowered but they are far from useless. When i had 10kGS i carried my PUG group through Both FH and SP by kiting and holding aggro. Oftentimes, our group consisted of 3 HRs/ 1TR 2HRs and a DC and if they weren't significantly slow in the head or didn't speak english i could kite adds and tank without a problem, while they DPS boss. But in PUG groups, there are always one or two morons that refuse to listen (stay in the astral circle FFS, or FOCUS BOSS FFS) and wiped, so in a lot of these dungeons i had to kite adds and Lunging strike/Anvil boss when i can while 1 DPS wittles down boss fulltime. The problem with PUGS isn't gear score, it's that 1/4 of them are incredibly stupid and don't understand the mechanics of a dungeon. Once you get to ToS and Karru, thats when Gear Score begins to matter because of the need for high DPS, and constant circles for damage mitigation.
1. If there were no cap, it wouldn't have mattered if you fight 1, 5 or 1000 mobs.
2. On hit VFX of the AoE abilities would cause a massive fps drop.
Instead of being based on number of enemies, it could consider quality of enemies. For example lets say frontline surge could affect 6 enemy ranks, that could be 6 imps (worth 1 rank), 3erynyes (2 ranks) or 1 huge guy (5 ranks or similar); or any combination of the above. Making the skills a little more credible. Keeping the limit for normal enemies, improving it for really weak ones, and giving some resistance to huge ones.
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Well I don't write object oriented code for home computers but scripts for industrial machines. However you would have to add in a new variable to the database for every mob in the game. Since some boss fights use non-standard mobs you'd have to do them seperate as well. Then when you design a new mob for a new zone you'd have to decide where it should be on the scale. That's a fair amount of dev time for a change that would add no benefit to 99.99% of players. It's added complexity for complexity's sake, and besides taking a good amount of time (which is money) for no real benefit, every added layer of complexity is another spot where bugs can occur. Yeah I think it has bad idea written all over it.
I'll let the CEO, the dev's and their families know that.
And this is where NW utterly fails.
You SHOULD be able to do the dungeons - even the high end tiers - with the tools provided by the system.
If there is a queue to auto create or auto fill it has to make it possible in the advertised time to finish the dungeon.
You are forced to use the queue system to enter the dungeon, so I think it was intended to use it as such.
There is no "you can not queue alone for CN, you must have a group of 5 adventurers" dialogue when queuing.
Failures in the queue system drives off customers. Some stay, some go.
One might say "good riddance" to them who quit, but they were potential customers that were driven off.
Just my thoughts.
Ok, i've done that dozens of times too, but what you *can* do and what you *should* do are different things.
I mean, getting all the aggro (fighting with a crippling cap on our main AoE taunt, every time I use it it lands on adds that are already following me, instead of adds that are chasing the healer, cap can stay, but the skill should be "intelligent" and land first on targets that are not already aggroed), and running around like a girl, occasionally poking the boss, is not something we should ever do as fighters. We should be able to withstand some damage and hold our ground, occasionally repositioning to avoid big damage, but in any boss fight my guard is down in fractions of a second because zounds of adds. And I have invested a lot of feats/powers to keep that shield up.
The fact the game forces us to do so because there are no alternatives (i.e. killing adds on a insta-respawn timer) is plain wrong.
Yeah, hurry up before they call the police on you.
1) AoE target limits are rediculous to me. I would like all of them to be no limit at all. It is silly to watch your guys use their abilities and not hit things, it's even more frustrating as you can't know what will and will not be targeted. Note - if there is no target limit we won't need to take multiple CWs cause one can do that job.
2) to compensate, it would be nice to see dungeons where there are bigger, stronger mobs, sometimes control immune, and ones that hit hard enough you don't want to pull the whole room. MC was the step in the right direction, but VT was a step backwards. I hate that place.
That said, all classes have their uses too, just that when the dungeon is "kill 20+ mobs at once" then it's all about CW/GWF. Sadly.
Everything you need to know about CW:
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?780981-Chem-s-CW-Compendium-Everything-you-need-to-know