I hear what you're saying about the seldarine set not producing a significant enough heal to keep one alive. It's all about layers though. Seldarine DOES give extra AC and deflect as well as con and dex. Reflect damage is a significant portion of my output, so any deflect is great and the AC bonus is welcome on any tank. I'm with you on the AP gain, but I'd rather put ap gain jewels on my seldarine set, than use an artifact set with no defensive bonuses other than AP gain and a wasted stat bonus (wisdom).
I'm not sure where you are getting the wisdom from... I never said anywhere in that post that you should be using the imperial belt. I said seldarine belt or con belt. Getting an artifact set just so you have a set is foolish. i used the imperial restraint artifact because it provided stats i think were useful and not because it was part of set. You are right though that the Seldarine belt is probably a better choice then the CON belt with the added deflect it has, just better synergy with the build. however, with the build i posted a picture of, it ended up with very little deflect anyways. but more is better i guess.
And i suggested the AP cloak because the point of the build is to avoid damage entirely via SoS and/or steely defense and as such taking 4% DR instead a cloak that gives more AP to have more dailies seems silly to me. and the AP cloak is going to provide way way more AP for you then the AP gems ever will since at best the AP gems is a 5% boost to incoming AP where as the cloak is an actual 4% AP every 3 seconds (leagues of difference in effectiveness)
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I'm not sure where you are getting the wisdom from... I never said anywhere in that post that you should be using the imperial belt. I said seldarine belt or con belt. Getting an artifact set just so you have a set is foolish. i used the imperial restraint artifact because it provided stats i think were useful and not because it was part of set. You are right though that the Seldarine belt is probably a better choice then the CON belt with the added deflect it has, just better synergy with the build. however, with the build i posted a picture of, it ended up with very little deflect anyways. but more is better i guess.
And i suggested the AP cloak because the point of the build is to avoid damage entirely via SoS and/or steely defense and as such taking 4% DR instead a cloak that gives more AP to have more dailies seems silly to me. and the AP cloak is going to provide way way more AP for you then the AP gems ever will since at best the AP gems is a 5% boost to incoming AP where as the cloak is an actual 4% AP every 3 seconds (leagues of difference in effectiveness)
You're right, I did sort of just assume you meant you'd be using the whole imperial dragon set. I'll blame that on the summer cold I'm shaking off. Heh. I guess I'd have to play both side by side and see if that added AP boost is anything I couldn't almost squeeze out of some gems and an AP gain potion. Although then again, if I stacked the imperial dragon cloak with those items it could only be a stronger incoming flow of dailies. Does that five seconds of immunity and ten seconds of healing moving slightly closer together outweigh additional deflect and permanent 4% DR? I'm not sure. I honestly don't have the money to test it.
Preview server is your friend here. find out what works for you on there and then use that path on live. If you are wondering about dungeon performance then i hope you have some friends as that is hard to find on preview (major HEs might be a useful way to test as well)
and steely defense is 6 seconds at rank 4 now i believe, so that might tip the scales a bit
As to the AP gain gems, here is what lazalia has to say about them (from their SW guide)
"...In our encounter feats, we have Energizing Curse after 5 points invested we will gain 30% more AP when attacking cursed targets with our At-Wills sounds great but unfortunately it isnt, consider that our AP gauge counts up to 1000 points, each one of our At-Wills will add in average 15 points to that gauge, 15+30% = 19.5%, so as you can see, it's barely noticeable, just like AP gain stat, works in the same way: i.e Warlock's Bargain, Killing Flames and Dreadtheft adds each one of them 75 points to the AP gauge which is 7.5%, if you have an extra 7% AP gain means 75+7%= 80.25% so if we try to fill our AP gauge with 75 points per encounter, it would take us 13.3 encounters, if we add 7% AP gain, it would take 12.46, not even 1 less. You can use AP gain as dump stat but never focus your character on it."
I have no idea though how the AP gain will work with GF and shielding attacks. it doesn't hurt as a off hand bonus because you can get ~300 AP gain for very little AD, but the gems are each worth like 300k (been a while since i checked) or so and only give 100 points each. i would personally wait until the rest of my build was finalized to the point that the AP gems were the cheapest upgrade i had left to make. But again, preview is your friend
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Hi! Actually, I tried making use of that Reflect CF. But let's be honest, it's total HAMSTER unless our dear devs decide to give it a nice buff, maybe like 5% per rank for a total of 15%.
For faster AP gain, Tactician makes a lot of sense and I tried it out and it takes me nearer to my goal of being able to pop a daily. But the thing is, Steel Defense, which is the main CF of this build, completely negates the effects of Martial Mastery. This means I can't gain AP from getting attacked while under the effects of SD. So I concentrated on making my Guard more potent as I noticed that the amount of AP we can get from Guarding far outweighs the AP gain we can get from the Martial Mastery feat. I concentrated on being able to recover the Guard Meter quickly to be able to gain AP by Guarding some more. Only the GF is able to generate this much AP by using their defensive feature and I decided to bank on that by going for Protector, and increasing the effects of my defensive capabilities. I have more details on the Philosophy of the Build section of the guide.
if u use the supremacy of steel you dont get anyway ap during the daily.
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i second that
And i suggested the AP cloak because the point of the build is to avoid damage entirely via SoS and/or steely defense and as such taking 4% DR instead a cloak that gives more AP to have more dailies seems silly to me. and the AP cloak is going to provide way way more AP for you then the AP gems ever will since at best the AP gems is a 5% boost to incoming AP where as the cloak is an actual 4% AP every 3 seconds (leagues of difference in effectiveness)
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You're right, I did sort of just assume you meant you'd be using the whole imperial dragon set. I'll blame that on the summer cold I'm shaking off. Heh. I guess I'd have to play both side by side and see if that added AP boost is anything I couldn't almost squeeze out of some gems and an AP gain potion. Although then again, if I stacked the imperial dragon cloak with those items it could only be a stronger incoming flow of dailies. Does that five seconds of immunity and ten seconds of healing moving slightly closer together outweigh additional deflect and permanent 4% DR? I'm not sure. I honestly don't have the money to test it.
and steely defense is 6 seconds at rank 4 now i believe, so that might tip the scales a bit
As to the AP gain gems, here is what lazalia has to say about them (from their SW guide)
I have no idea though how the AP gain will work with GF and shielding attacks. it doesn't hurt as a off hand bonus because you can get ~300 AP gain for very little AD, but the gems are each worth like 300k (been a while since i checked) or so and only give 100 points each. i would personally wait until the rest of my build was finalized to the point that the AP gems were the cheapest upgrade i had left to make. But again, preview is your friend
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if u use the supremacy of steel you dont get anyway ap during the daily.