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meleumpkin
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Am i the only one..
1. who upon making 60 has never finished a dungeon or even ever gotten into one? The LFG option never hooks me up with anyone and if it does after 7 hours of waiting, i get a group that within 5 minutes someone drops and makes it impossible to complete it. So doing dailies to get astral diamonds is outta the question.
2.Have to have prior exp in a dungeon, but yer gear score is to low cause of the fact you cant get into a group to get gear to raise it.
3. thinks completing 4 dailies to get a quest done? really? 4 i cant find a group for 1 ! (see number 1 above)
4.The dungeon layouts are sweet except for the fact NOONE will rez you when you are dieing so you have to go all the way back to a campfire which is always 900 miles away. Look at Dread vaults for instance, if you die at the 1st boss you have to run from the entrance, thats a good 3-5 minute run depending on class once again i say Really?
5.If you are in a dungeon and someone drops/disconnects/quits then the game will not refill that spot or if it is doing that, then that means NOONE is ever signing up for runs.. makes ya wonder really.2million supposed subscribers? mm hmm i think they all signed up and quit after the 1st week,
6. i literally have a 60 of every class and the only epics i have are the ones you get from your 1st lvl 60 missions.
1. who upon making 60 has never finished a dungeon or even ever gotten into one? The LFG option never hooks me up with anyone and if it does after 7 hours of waiting, i get a group that within 5 minutes someone drops and makes it impossible to complete it. So doing dailies to get astral diamonds is outta the question.
2.Have to have prior exp in a dungeon, but yer gear score is to low cause of the fact you cant get into a group to get gear to raise it.
3. thinks completing 4 dailies to get a quest done? really? 4 i cant find a group for 1 ! (see number 1 above)
4.The dungeon layouts are sweet except for the fact NOONE will rez you when you are dieing so you have to go all the way back to a campfire which is always 900 miles away. Look at Dread vaults for instance, if you die at the 1st boss you have to run from the entrance, thats a good 3-5 minute run depending on class once again i say Really?
5.If you are in a dungeon and someone drops/disconnects/quits then the game will not refill that spot or if it is doing that, then that means NOONE is ever signing up for runs.. makes ya wonder really.2million supposed subscribers? mm hmm i think they all signed up and quit after the 1st week,
6. i literally have a 60 of every class and the only epics i have are the ones you get from your 1st lvl 60 missions.
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2. Your levelling experience should show just how easy it is to have enough AD to buy a full set of level 60 blues on any class by the time you hit 60. Depending on class and the right set of blues, you can easily outshine even full 4pc set geared players as long as they do not have higher ranks of weapon enhancements!
3. Yeah, endgame dailies in this game suck hard, except for the PvP ones. You do not need a group to do any of them, except Dread Vault and that's a daily few experienced 60s ever touch.
4. Entrance runs are specific to Dread Vault. No other dungeon functions in this way. If you don't enjoy the mechanic, don't do the dungeon - most of the playerbase probably does not.
5. At least, one valid point. Yes, lack of party replacement is an appalling missing feature in this game.
6. If you have multiple 60s, you should have enough AD from levelling, Invocation, dailies and professions to be able to at least partly if not wholly gear up one toon for T1 and T2 runs just by AH purchases.
This all assumes you are playing as a lone wolf solo player. If you were part of a guild, gearing up and doing all the content would be considerably easier.
There are plenty of good reasons to leave this game for other MMOs and no one would blame you for them, but you have listed almost none...
1 - You haven't even finished epic Cloak Tower & Cragmire, the two easiest? As a reasonably experienced 60 I sometimes go into those for fun just to help ''baby'' 60s. Queueing for those should get you a PUG in no time.
2 - I find this odd. You should easily get into Cloak Tower & Cragmire with blues and greens, seeing as they are the entry-level dungeons. If you can't, do some PvPs, for which you will also receive AD as it is a daily, and use the glory to buy the T1 PvP epic gear. This WILL raise your GS and boost most of your stats. You can also use your AD to buy cheap epic gear from the AH to further boost yourself.
3 - Can't respond to this.
4 - That is just bad luck with your groups. In EVERY group I've been in we always try and rez someone, including PUGs with people I've never met. The more people that are alive and fighting the better, so I don't know why you've come across people ignoring one another.
5 - I have seen people replace quitters in dungeons.
6 - This will be because you are undergeared for the higher level dungeons. Sill find it hard to believe that you can't at least get into the two beginner dungeons.
What is your character class and what is your GS? Are you in a guild? If you are, they should help you. I'd actually help you run a basic dungeon if you wanted me to.
#2, As I said in number 1; I really suggest finding a decent guild to run with. Pug groups are notoriously self-centered.
#3, The only Rhix/Neverember dailies I do are the ones for Foundry and then only when I have both of them at the same time. I personally just don't feel the rest are worth it and the two foundry ones are not worth it by themselves. That's just me though, as I know a lot of players that do them all.
#4, My response to number 2 fits here as well.
#5, This will be resolved when Module 2 comes as it adds the feature to bring in another player to fill dropped spots.
#6, My responses to numbers 2 and 4 fits here as well. Get good guild man, that's all you really need.
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Queue issues specifically started when they added code to prevent people from
kicking people so that they could get extra clerics/wizards.
whatever they did to mess with the cleric lottery seemed to add an hour wait to the queue while its been getting better latly specifically if you have a full party ahead of time.
best way to get in a pre 60 is go to the area the dungeon is and watch zone for people assembling a party manually or start one yourself in the area when you have a full party
the queue is instant (or should be)
also manually gathered parties have a much lower chance of bailing or the other anti social behaviors you mentioned, and they are often more likely to all speak the same language.
also sometimes they do what is called pre-clearing this is where the mission is started and most of it is done in advanced to make it easier to get the AD bonus. I've never bee in a pre cleared mission but I hear people talk about the a lot.
I have finished the t1 gaunt dungeon, that is it (as far as lvl 60 dungeons. I don't mess with non-epic dungs since my gear I bought on ah is better than what drops there I figure). I've only got into a few/3 epic dungeons the several months I've been 60. Didn't finish them. Group not good enough or people dropped.
2. Huh? I bought great stuff off ah. You can blow the requirements out of the water spending a little ad.
You mean full group? Uh, I wouldn't touch any epic dungeon without a fg. You must be very lucky or have a great active guild. Or can you do low level non-epic dungeons and get credit for the daily? If so, **** I've been missing out big time.
2) Nope.
3) Not sure I understand what you're actually talking about here. Doesn't sound like any problem I have.
4) Yeah, sometimes. Bad luck like that happens more often to non-Guild players. Even in a Guild, other members are not babysitters at your beck and call. Sometimes this will happen if you get a bad group.
5) Perhaps this isn't the game for you then?
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I did Dread Vault allone on my GF and killed the bos lolol
2- With all-blue gear you can do just fine in T1 dungeons if you're a decent player. You get some epic quality gear from single player Sharandar dungeons, if you really want you gear to be purple. The GS set for dungeons is pretty low and can achieve it fairly easy, but most importantly stop worrying about GS. GS does not guaranty a successful dungeon run. Learn to play your class well and what your role is in the party.
3-Do daily quest other than Daily Dungeon. Some players find the Dread Vault difficult, especially the inexperienced ones. Find a short and easy Foundry quest eligible for Daily Foundry. PvP and GG are a good alternative to Daily Dungeon. Not only do you get the AD from the dailies, but from GG you get Grym coins and from PvP you get Glory, both of which can be traded for epic gear and other stuff.
4- I help fallen team-mates whenever I can. I expect the same treatment when I am down, and usually there is at least one team mate rushing over to help me, but not all the time. It's very rare, but I really hate it when that happens. There's nothing you can do about it really. Some people are just a-holes.
5- After your party kills the first boss in a dungeons, if a team-mate drops for any reason, you will not get someone to fill her/his place. This should be fixed with Module 2.
6- I gave you a few suggestions on how to get purple gear, but getting T1 gear is not that hard really.
If you need any advice or have uncertainties about anything, just ask on the forum. There are quite a few people here that are happy to help you.
I have been in many guilds. They all fold up. They all go feral and eat each other. I just can't play consistently with a group of people without the insurance that if they start acting badly I can get in my car and go beat the hell out of them. Therefore I just cannot bring myself to team up with anyone in a pick up group or what not. Getting kicked at the end of the dungeon, getting *****ed at by idiots etc etc...not worth my blood pressure.
Its not really that hard.
I don't mean to come across as callous, but it sounds to me like you've just had bad experiences. DO not rely on the queuing system to get on a team. Form your own, and talk to those you invite. Make sure everyone is on the same page when it comes to how the team will operate - are you all going to stick together and watch each other's backs, or are you going to operate as 5 individuals who happen to be on the same mission?
On the subject of someone dropping/disconnecting - as long as you haven't defeated the 1st boss, they will be replaced. After that point - yeah, they need to do something about it. Disconnects are a part of MMOs nowadays, so they need to be accounted for better.
How about trying out NW_Legit_Community - we don't use cheats or exploits in dungeons, and I've found some great teams through this channel, (see my sig).
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I have the same feeling, given how bad D&D is doing recent years this is probably the last video game installement in the franchise and I feel bad about letting it go. I like the artstyle, the graphics, but the gameplay just doesn't offer anything interesting for me. It's just a grind threadmill and the worst part it requires grouping with strangers and it's so unstable to the point of being a chore. For last few months, I just log in to assign leadership tasks and it's like visiting a grave. If this game was an old-school singleplayer dungeon-crawler with party it would be ok for me. If this game was a mindless ARPG with loot farming it would be ok for me. But the game is MMORPG in a time when MMORPG grew completely stale.
2. The first 2 epic dungeons are quite easy to complete even with pugs, when i reached lvl 60 with my first char i got enough AD to buy a few pieces of purple HAMSTER, the rest i got from glory (I'm not too much into pvp but i play it everyday for the dailly) but IF you don't have any money at all, you can still farm for blues or do some dailly and buy blue gear that will increase your GS
3. I just do PVP and foundry daillies, so i know it's not that hard as it is boring xD
4. This point alone is just bad luck, been in teams where all 5 guys rush to ress me if i die (which is completly non sense, being just a GWF and nothing really important to the team) so i think you just have to keep looking for a decent pug.
5. Here i agree with you, this sucks i've never been able to complete grey wolf den since always someone quits even before we get to the final boss and pugs aren't too much of an organized crew anyway.
6. i don't really want to answer to this one, since i don't want you to think that I'm insulting you but epic gear isn't that hard to get.