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belacbre
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I am playing a game for a month only , but most of the time i spent in PVP . So , overal this game has really funny and interesting PVP system,but one thing was pain in the neck for most of my time in fights.After you get CC from any class you don't recive immunity on the same type of CC. So many times there are 2 same classes in one of teams and so many times you get double choke from mages , or double daze from sins.....2 guards will play a football with you and score a big time 
and so on.....Also latest patch a bit over boosted DC's healing's so when one team has 2 healers with both have that crazy circle heals,makes a game's not so funny just because there is so much deflect and immunity on all classes and with crazy heals up make the whole team unable to get killed!And there were so many games where one team had 2 healers and other none....
Cheers :cool:
and so on.....Also latest patch a bit over boosted DC's healing's so when one team has 2 healers with both have that crazy circle heals,makes a game's not so funny just because there is so much deflect and immunity on all classes and with crazy heals up make the whole team unable to get killed!And there were so many games where one team had 2 healers and other none....Cheers :cool:
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I feel that you are dead wrong. The balance of this game is team versus team, ideally a 'full house' of each class.
Individually each class has a nemesis class which will destroy them easily. But that is what teammates are for.
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Not true. I've won matches with the other team having two clerics, and lost match with my team having 2 clerics and various levels of PVP arena.
That is simply not true. Its all about coordination.
I'd like to see less CC resistance! I can hold a point against a Sent easily if they weren't so dang resistance to my Repels, Shields and Ice Storms.
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I would like to see some of TR's burst damage restored in the form of LA being buffed to 50% instead of the measly 25% damage bonus it was left at after the last *balancing* update so a TR can face a sentinel GWF and stand a chance. CWs keep in mind this is to face sentinel GWFs, not CWs, and CW's ice knife is currently capable of doing up to 51k of damage to a single player. It makes no sense to nerf a Shocking Blade and LA to nearly nothing and leave other classes with heavy damage dailies. *shrug life goes on*
^Note: This is a joke post in response to the post it quotes.
No more nerfs please.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
I would like to see some of GF's burst damage improved so a GF can face a sent GWF and stand a chance. CWs keep in mind this is to face sent GWF, not CWs, CW's ice knife is currently capable of doing up to 51k of damage to a single player.
No more nerfs please.
That is true on most of the match (90%) i played. I've lose matches with the other team having two clerics, and won match with my team having 2 clerics and various levels of PVP arena.
Chipster, try to see Leonidas from the silent blade. he developed his set up lately so much, I bet he takes 90% of sentinel tank regen sentinels with top gears easily. so again, game has balanced. But people are slow to adapt to the changes in game because they just copy instead try new things...
I am just tired of watching undergeared, or weak builds people complaining how pvp in the game is unbalanced.
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Thanks for your cool advice. I had 60s CW/TR/GWF/GF, all top-geared (at least all meet your GS requirement
I call bull**** Clerics was nerfed all over last patch no increase in healing they already got healing reduced by 40% how much more do you people want? why don't we remove healing all together in this game!
Dont blame healers for your dps lag of brain and basic gear! ANY dps class can kill a healer in this game unless he is severely overgeared like 8500 vs 11800!
Here is how you do it
CW: press choke and any of your buttoms
TR: Stealth press Lashing blade
GF: Knights challenge, bullrush, surge 3 buttoms hardest class to play!
GWF: use a combination of all his stuns and better healing than cleric if he does not kill him in seconds he is assured not to die aswell!
I was making a joke because a CW said they wanted to see less CC resistance so they can hold a point against a Sentinel GWF. I quoted the post and chipster quoted it. You seemed to have skipped that post because you do not even mention CWs in your post so I repeated it below.
I am also tired of watching under geared or weak build or unskilled people complaining how pvp in the game is unbalanced. Every day a new thread pops up. Players try to make PVP seem unbalanced for their gain because they loose at it instead of improving their skills or gear or build. Hopefully this clarifies my original post was a joke and not a complaint.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
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Until any of that happens tho, I'll be happy to continue pillaging in PvP with my 6 ridiculously overpowered Tene's.
I would like to see some of DC's everything buffed majorly so a DC can face anyone and stand a chance. CWs keep in mind this is to face everyone, not just CWs, and CW's ice knife is currently capable of doing up to 51k of damage to a single player. It makes no sense to nerf the games only healer to nearly nothing and leave other classes with heavy damage dailies.
no more nerfs please.
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lol@you, I had been in PvP 60s almost everyday. Do you PvP in the level 10?
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Tissue for you...
Normally I would steer clear from something like this but:
Because it makes sense to balance a 20 Second Cooldown encounter against a Daily that requires an ideal amount of set up and procs to get anywhere near that high.
Im my Full Offensive set - 2600Arp, Full high Viz, Perfect vorpal and Ray of Enfeeblement stacked onto a target the Highest Crit I have seen since the balancing patch with Ice Knife is 37k (Not including the one time I was knights challenged and saw 60k. Now again. Thats a solid 6 Seconds of timing to get it right, fingers crossed Eye of the Storm Procs and that your target doesnt premptively dodge, raise shield or pop unstoppable.
Rogues have the Perfect Counter to Sent Gwfs. Its called Shocking Execution.
Once again: Balancing an Encounter that auto crits from stealth on a 20second CD against a daily that requires the stars to align to crit higher than 27k (Average geared Cw will crit for 18k or so) is just stupid.
Cws can completely deny Sent Gwfs from their point. I think my second duel against Raven last night went for 30 Mins + (this is on Mindflayer). Now as a Cw with 32k Hp and 1300 regen, I can burst down a Sent Gwf. But again, it relies on the Stars to align.
We aren't crying about other class balance because, Imo the Pvp in this game is pretty well balanced. Nearly every class (Except Pure healing DCs) has a chance to burst everyone down. More so than other games. It all comes down to Situational Awareness and timing.
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Why? I don't have a cold. Just stating facts. I'm in a great guild and we find ways to win matches even when opposing teams stack Sents in party. I can stack 7 HV debuffs on someone with the right Daily and Encounter rotation. And what's even better, we have fun. It's a crazy thought, I know.
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I was there and saw this: CW capturing a point against a Regen-Sent and then have a complete stalemate where neither die. So cool to see.
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^Um you made a few mistakes with your post:
First off the post you are quoting was a joke post in response to the CW who posted "I'd like to see less CC resistance! I can hold a point against a Sent easily if they weren't so dang resistance to my Repels, Shields and Ice Storms." The post you quoted even quotes the CW's post and I explain that it was joke response in a later post.
Second please read the posts thoroughly before posting please because no one mentions an encounter. LA = Lurker's Assualt which is a DAILY not a 20 secound cool down encounter. Lurkers Assault was nerfed from 60% bonus damage down to 25%. FYI: LB = Lashing Blade which you misunderstood for LA= Lurker's Assault.
Thirdly Shocking Execution another TR DAILY got gutted by 60% in the first *balancing* update. The target also has to be injured first for Shocking Execution to do any real damage.
Ice Knife doing 37k-60k damage to a single target? Trs are lucky to do 20k with shocking on a full health target since it has been gutted.
You may not be crying but there are tons of other CWs who are crying still. Players have created threads for every class wanting them nerfed more. I think every class having a nerf thread is a result of PVP being balanced.
*Shakes his head laughing* I honestly think PVP balance is about where it should be to be honest and people just need to do a better job at reading.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
A Sentinel GWF is supposed to be hard to kill. Never every class should be easy to solo. Sentinels just so happen to be the multi-tank in pvp, better so than a GF (though GF single tank better).
As far as overpowered, that I disagree with completely. A proper GF can sweep a GWF, even a good one, fairly well.
This is a team game, though. Just like CW's are aoe kings, in PvP at least sentinel GWF's are the multi-tanks.
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Total Fail on my part good sir.
I do apologise.
Besides the point that 90% of rogues will hit Lurkers and then Lashing.
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The TR's who are only getting 20k with Shocking is because they don't know how to use it. More then likely they are much lesser geared, or its because they are using it on a target with full health.
My average hits with Shocking on a high deflect GWF below 50% health is 28-34k.
Partially my fault and I added a note to that post explaining it was a joke.
Bingo at 50% health, my mistake for not clarifying that I was comparing Ice Knife to Shocking execution on a full health target because Ice Knife does not have the limitation that a target must be damaged to do heavy damage. Yeah, 20k or less on a full health target where Ice Knife can do 37k on a full health target and some CWs still want TRs nerfed. Sorry I did not clarify again on what I was saying. Honestly, every class can be OP if it is geared/specced a certain way and played by a skilled player because there are even threads asking for DCs to be further nerfed. I think this means PVP is balanced.
No more nerfs to any class please.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
The number of times I have seen targets being felled from over half health by a TR with 0.5% HP well outside of melee range left is insane! It's not enough to have TR's damage be supremely front-loaded due to Stealth, difficult to pin mid-fight due to Impossible to Catch, ability to escape almost any situation at any time, but on top of that they get an I-WIN button...