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Malabog's Castle - 3/3 Clears after Val Patch
dkcandy
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A really quick poll:
Who has beaten Malabog's Castle last boss (Val + Dragon) after the patch that fixed Val's bug and hasn't used any other bugs. Legit 3/3 Kills.
I'm on Mindflayer and have a solid group that clears MC and haven't found others that can beat them since patch.
Who has beaten Malabog's Castle last boss (Val + Dragon) after the patch that fixed Val's bug and hasn't used any other bugs. Legit 3/3 Kills.
I'm on Mindflayer and have a solid group that clears MC and haven't found others that can beat them since patch.
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1) Being in a guild with only 1 or 2 regulars on, so pugs may not be as skilled. I should search for a new guild though.
2) Being lazy. The drop rates are horrible, not only are we unlikely to get fragments or off hand items, we're unlikely to get anything remotely of value apart from the chest item making it almost a complete waste of time.
3) Dragon is bugged. Why should I try coping with valindra when the dragon can ace us out of range.
Basically there's little incentive for me to actually queue for it.
So figuring out the bosses animations, rotations and timers is pretty intuitive.
These type of boss fights dont really match up well with the current class structure.
So, this poll is meant for boasting?
Besides, many people cleared MC without bugs in the first week, including me on my CW main. This is because it was fresh and new and all the most geared, experienced and eager players threw themselves enthusiastically at it.
Now, everyone has figured out there is little incentive to do it and those that want to do it are either undergeared (yes, Valindra is meant to be a dps check) or inexperienced or uncoordinated. So, few bother doing more than 2/3.
It is basically the "Epic Dread Vault Effect", except greatly shorter dungeon and at least Epic DV endboss has a chance for a big reward.
Video or it didn't happen.;)
PinkSugar, lvl 60 CW.
Baby Cakes, lvl 60 GWF.
*******, lvl 60 TR.
Premium Juicebox, lvl 60 CW.
Pink Exxxtacy, Ranger
There is NO pvp in Neverwinter.
2 - Players that can 1 shot VAL
1 - DPS GF that controls the dragon and prevents breath on team mates during VAL encounters and worst case can solo Burst VAL.
1 - DC that doesn't die to stupid things
So you end up with (3) Players that can solo burst VAL & 1 Good DC. The only hard part of the entire fight is VAL portals because once the white knights are summoned the fight goes to ****.
The 5th player can be any class.
Big rewards in Dread Vault?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh, that's a good one!
[Longsword of the Timeless Hero] alone is 2M-3M reward. Not big enough for you?
Of course, Feywild may have devalued it somewhat. But someone always wants such things for vanity reasons alone and those are the kind of players that can afford such prices.
Our guild hasn't bothered enough to try hard beating her at this moment since the work you put into it isn't even worth the payoff.
However, whoever listed it as a 45min dungeon, needs shooting.
45min sounds about right for 3/3 clear. If you're doing the side rooms in the castle, the competing adventuring party, etc it could take longer.
Not the one where you shoot someone for only taking an apple.
I thought the mechanics was valindra only teleports to one of the members and cast a "choke" spell, if you can burn her in 2 secs: safe, if not she'll put up a portal in the same spot. At least this was pre patched to me. But now it seems Valindra comes down to any spot in the area and sometimes we are just too far from her.
there we go. impossible dungeon.
I don't think you understand how the "old" exploit went. It was unavoidable. We didn't do it on purpose. We would keep wiping on the boss and at some point, Valindra just ends up despawning.
This happened originally before the patch too.
- Valindra sometimes teleported down without having any indication that she is about to (such as the evil laugh etc...).
- The dragon wing flap aoe is a lot bigger than what it looks like on the ground. About 1.5 times more than the red circle around the dragon.
- Valindra even spawned a portal in the spot by where she stands on the cliff and the adds came down to us. There is no way for us to take down the portal. Unless range have to focus on it.
- Even keeping the dragon dead center of the area, sometimes valindra teleported to the edge of the area and make it impossible to get to her in time.
Last but not least, from what I read earlier today that cryptic never had any kind of method to measure the difficulty of this fight when they designed it other than make it extremely hard not even themselves can pass it and just let the players "test the water out" for them, I think this is like the last nail in the coffin as far as their competency in gaming design. The current cryptic team has no business to be in MMO industry period. I mean when you put those stat numbers on gears/characters/monsters for a reason along with variety of spells/attacks etc......and now it sounds like you just put them there for the heck of it. Really ?!?!?
Do you even have data analysts as part of the game design or just a couple of dev's a the rest is just a never-ending-greed cash shop ??
This reminded me of the failed Diablo 3 with J. Wilson so who is on cryptic team now ?
We 1 shot valindra every time she came down except for when she is by the edge of the area and then we had to deal with adds. And as I stated, other times she just popped up "quietly" and caught us off guard and then the deceiving red aoe from the dragon that just made me say "F&** this is just a waste of time". I am not saying it is not doable for everyone cause obviously some are able to beat it like your team. But do I have to do it and go the gd extra miles to "accommodate" the incompetency/laziness here ? No. It's not worthy.
HAhahaha So why do ppl still take 2-3 CW's to these fights? Oh yes it's because CWs pop Val with Iceknife instantly at range where very other DPS has to close in fast enough and do more damage than a CW can at range. So good TR's can do it. GWFs and GF's cannot.
@riftozdead Well it's the same requirements as CN which is insanely hard and has much tougher mobs. to get to the final boss, so it wasn't really going to be an easy ride. Of course I can't really talk if I've not done it legitimately yet because I'd rather have my work pay off instead of just getting blues.
Valindra and Fulminorax aren't that hard, your team needs some communication that's all. Of course you require some gear in order to murder the last two bosses in one of the two final dungeons in the game, but that's to be expected. I don't know how many people try a Rainbow setup in this dungeon, but I'd say that's a bad idea. The two best class setups is as follows:
2 x CW / 1 x GF/GWF / 1 x TR / 1 x DC
3 x CW / 1 x TR / 1 x DC
I personally prefer bringing three Control Wizards because the trash and first two bosses are killed that much faster. The nice thing about bringing either a Guardian Fighter or Great Weapon Fighter is both of them are like sponges when it comes to damage. But with three Control Wizards you can mow down pretty much anything in little under a minute. Your for sure biggest problem is going to be the Totemist's.
When it comes to Valindra and Fulminorax you want to fight in the exact same spot you're used to from bugging her. You want to stand pretty close to the middle, but somewhat closer to the door than to the off-end of the map. The Control Wizards need to see Valindra on her spot at all times. You need to keep track of when she's gonna spawn a Portal and when she's going to choke and kill a member of your group. She always chokes first, then spawns a Portal second. Every member of the group has to save their Daily, that's what is going to make this work. Control Wizards manage to build AP fast enough to have their Daily both for her choking a member, and her spawning a portal. Anyone who is not a Control Wizard should save their daily for her Portal.
If she does indeed manage to spawn a Portal it needs to be destroyed before loads of adds come through it. The Portal itself doesn't have too much HP so while the TR is tanking the Dragon on the far side of the map the rest of you can burn that portal and add within about 20 seconds of spawning. I understand this boss is hard without using any sort of VoIP, but I also think that's to be expected. Turning off your music and turning up your in-game sound is also something you should try. Valindra will make a grand entrance before she's actually on the map so just listen for her if you don't have a direct line of sight.
all we had to do was
1. dps save dailies for valindra
2. boss tank the dragon parallel against a wall/side.
thats all there is too it. and we was using 1 gf, 2 gwf, cw (me) + DC. wasnt too difficult. didnt even use voice coms.
i think any composition is viable, but having a GF sure does make the fight alot easier.
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