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cribstaxxx
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So I'm just bored and thinking out loud here but here goes.
Since lashing blade is a guaranteed crit from stealth you could theoretically have an all power/ArP build TR for PvP. At 30-40% ArP (Does it go that high? lol) and huge power even a GF could be one shotted if he was specced for damage no?
obviously this build would be terrible, but in PvP you could one shot ANYONE lol. We should all make this build if the nerf goes though, then we can see everyone else's "tears" on the forum how the nerf didn't work.
Since lashing blade is a guaranteed crit from stealth you could theoretically have an all power/ArP build TR for PvP. At 30-40% ArP (Does it go that high? lol) and huge power even a GF could be one shotted if he was specced for damage no?
obviously this build would be terrible, but in PvP you could one shot ANYONE lol. We should all make this build if the nerf goes though, then we can see everyone else's "tears" on the forum how the nerf didn't work.
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We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
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New patch notes would be:
Lashing blade will heal the target for max hp and accredit 500,000 Astral Diamonds to the healed player.
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But that's the thing, isn't it? If staying in stealth and doing damage is no longer a viable option, the only thing to do is use stealth to get in position and then maximize burst damage. I reckon people will get a lot more one-shots now than they ever did, simply because it's looking to be the only viable alternative now.
So if the idea was to cater to pvp whiners about the OPness of the TR, I'm placing my bet that the crying will not diminish, only grow louder and more nerfs will follow.
That doesnt really compete with my 83% winrate against rogues as cleric, the weakest class according to the forums.
Are you really sure that you play your tank to full potential?
Maybe you just forget to use encounter powers or something like that
Ah well
-Desstzo
Yes, the GF daily is dodgable - you just have to know when. It's the same as blocking a lashing blade, you have to see the animation begin and block immediately. All GF attacks can be dodged, but a skilled GF specced with the gap closers can enjoy playing wallball with most TR's.
40% armor pen? Wow, that would be both excessive and amazing.
The thing is , if you fail to dodge a lashing blade you still have a chance to continue the fight or even react or maybe run away.
If you fail to dodge a GF's knock , you will be laying on the floor while the GF tossing you around with 2 other knocks and you will end up dead and you wont even be able to react.
Im not complaining nor asking for a GF nerf , i'm just stating the obvious that someone is clearly missing.
TR can still punish anyone in PvP even with nerfs ( if they respec to the right builds) , it is the PvE i'm kind of worried about at the moment.
That's largely true, not to mention that a lashing blade can also miss if the TR blows the timing.
The classes are markedly different and I find that my GF has a massive advantage in PvP over my TR.
Indomitable Strength (daily) has an animation time that allows a dodge, yes, but Frontline Surge (encounter) casts almost immediately after the second keytap. That's the whole idea of that Bouncing Betty thing, near undodge-able first prone, and all the following ones can take however long you want.
Frontline Surge is absolutely fantastic, especially if you catch another GF with it or any other class who isn't paying attention. For a TR, it just means taking advantage of mobility to NEVER be in a GF's front arc. Daze/Stun them as soon as possible and then hit them with your hardest shots. If the GF is on their game and keeps blocking you, dodge and run away until you have more support.
bsically GF vs TR takes A LOT of skill on the TR part while the GF only needs to capitalize on any single mistake. also if help comes for the GF the TR must flee, if helps come for the TR the GF it's usually still a tough battle. the only thing that could help TR kill properly geared/played GF was LA (and that's a whole total of 2-3 times a match).
that said who cares, the TR is still going to be competitive in pvp, it's pve that will suck immensely.
Well, http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?429441-Trickster-Rogue-Changes
Fantastic, thanks! I hadn't seen that yet.
We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
But people think rogues are broken??? CW One shotting Draco for over 1mil dmg in a single attack.
Well this is good news i guess.
Wasn't that an acknowledged and fixed bug?
maybe acknowledge but the video was just posted 4 days ago so i doubt fixed.
It was a bug with Frozen power Transfer and it got fixed today.
TR is and will remain the PvE DPS superior.
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not worth using blue set and get 30%
with 2500 ArP you get 26%
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We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
Toned down nerfs? Say it ain't soooooo that would be bad for a lot of players.
Yes clearing dungeons faster will be bad for alot of players..
And for PvP..
Please don't argue about perma rogues , because we still have the sentinel regenration GWFs.
Yes I agree Sentinel GWF's need to go as well. They get more life and deflect then a tank something is off there.
No, it would continue to annoy you since it will interfere with your stated goal of being tops on the damage charts. From what you have indicated, most of your problems with rogues stem from not understanding how their core mechanics work and wanting the core mechanic of your sole chosen class to be different.
The toned down nerfs are still significant but no longer class breaking.
Nothing was class breaking before. When you are that high up on the food chain at least. Damage from stealth should still break it. I can dream I guess some day. Now we got these change done lets take a look at Impact shot and other things next.
Frontline Surge 30'range,10'cylinde 18 sec.
You Knock back your enemies, sending them prone, allowing you and your allies to seize new ground.
Impact Shot
Single target ranged (40ft) damage, pushes enemy back. Can be used 3 times / encounter. Stealthed: Stuns target, costs no charges.
So please tell me how am i supposed to protect my self from your bing pong combo , if you want to nerf my impact shot too?
And no. It's astonishing to me how much time you seem to have devoted to demanding changes to other classes. Why don't you spend time working on your own class and skills? If you want to dream, dream about how to meet your goals without hurting others.
The initial nerfs were indeed class breaking as has been posted with considerable detail in a number of threads you were active in. Impact shot is a useful skill, but it's not one that all TR's use or spec for. So what's your problem with it?
The funny part is , he is a decent GF i have personally went in 1 vs 1 situations with him . So i don't get why he is complaining about TRs.