why is NW not on Steam?

brandyyyy

I was just wondering? like its not a huge issue but all my other games are on there, then theres you starting your own clique like wtf? Actually don't lie, I know you part of Steam possee! I already had an account with you guys from some other game on there (god I forget the name even but it was more for ppl with 3d glasses or something). Anyways, I am sure more ppl would join the game. Maybe is just steam wants too much cut of those profits? I don't blame ya, I hate walmarts to lol.

baronvonboom

Steam seems to be the place to go once your MMO is on the way out or has just become F2P from a sub/hybrid game
Why put a new game on Steam and let them get their grubby mits on 10%+ of your takings..no thank you..

tang56

I've added the client to my steam library, but I don't have a problem with it not being tied to my account.

brandyyyy

ya I know. I mean, am saying wtf steam has complete controll of the market so you sould bow to them? no not rly, I guess more what I am saying is steam should offer a deal where everyone wins.

brandyyyy

ya I don't rly even care about clicking a diff place in the world to get in NW. But I am a whatcha call it frisky animal. Its still really lucky I found the game in the whole jungle of the interwebs though! I just wonder why they can't find a deal where steam gets some cut thats above nothing but PW makes more money overall from the increased total volume of customers.

chronomancer

You can manually add NW to your steam library and it works fine. Another way to track your game/achievements is Raptr.com

ladymythos

Personally, I'd drop the game immediately if they ever decide we require Steam to use it. I do like the Steam client and all that, but I am strongly against it being a requirement. So if I can't enjoy my games without being stuck with Steam or Origin, I'm simply not playing them.

chronomancer

One problem with steam is you cannot access your game without launching the steam client too even with single player non-internet games you need the internet to access your game. God forbid that Steam ever goes offline or bankrupt. There goes all $1000+ worth of your game collection.

dardove

ladymythos wrote: »

Personally, I'd drop the game immediately if they ever decide we require Steam to use it. I do like the Steam client and all that, but I am strongly against it being a requirement. So if I can't enjoy my games without being stuck with Steam or Origin, I'm simply not playing them.

Even if it shows up on Steam, use of Steam will never be a requirement. If any such program will be made a requirement it will be Arc.

ladymythos

dardove wrote: »

Even if it shows up on Steam, use of Steam will never be a requirement. If any such program will be made a requirement it will be Arc.

Are you serious? Of course Steam is a requirement. It always has been, and always will be. Even if you buy a physical copy of a game in a store, you still need to install Steam to use it. How is that not a requirement?

And how about this: If you buy a physical copy of a game and the Steam-server is down or busy, you won't be able to play the game. Even if you download the game from another online-store like Steam, you still have to register it on Steam. So yeah, it's a requirement. Not for every single game, of course, but all games listed on Steam.

dardove

ladymythos wrote: »

Are you serious? Of course Steam is a requirement. It always has been, and always will be. Even if you buy a physical copy of a game in a store, you still need to install Steam to use it. How is that not a requirement?

And how about this: If you buy a physical copy of a game and the Steam-server is down or busy, you won't be able to play the game. Even if you download the game from another online-store like Steam, you still have to register it on Steam. So yeah, it's a requirement. Not for every single game, of course, but all games listed on Steam.

Having the game appear doesn't mean you will be required to use even if you didn't buy it on Steam. Yes, there are plenty of games that force you to use it no matter where you buy it, but there are also plenty more games that are on steam that you don't have to use steam when you don't buy it on steam.

Of note is Champions Online and Star Trek Online, which are both on Steam and have no requirement to use it.

lonnehart

chronomancer wrote: »

One problem with steam is you cannot access your game without launching the steam client too even with single player non-internet games you need the internet to access your game. God forbid that Steam ever goes offline or bankrupt. There goes all $1000+ worth of your game collection.

And this is one MAJOR reason why when a new console game comes out I'll always buy the disc version. Or any PC game for that matter (thank goodness I still have my old Diablo and Baldurs Gate discs).

kantazo1

Bottom line Steam is the worst thing you can do to this game.

colonelwing

Steam to me is like facebook, something for the sheeple.

cipher9nemo

kantazo1 wrote: »

Bottom line Steam is the worst thing you can do to this game.

Agreed. /thread

brandyyyy

there are alot of games on steam that you do not have to download though steam or anything. It prety much just runs the regular launcher for whatever game and bots in your password as your steam password.

ladymythos

dardove wrote: »

Yes, there are plenty of games that force you to use it no matter where you buy it,

I'm too close to 40, and yet after all these years, I still don't understand why some people insist on creating a problem where there isn't one. You say it yourself. Some games on Steam requires Steam. That makes it a requirement, so you just try to argue with me by proving my point? I'm not going to ask how that makes any kind of sense.

tang56

ladymythos wrote: »

Are you serious? Of course Steam is a requirement. It always has been, and always will be. Even if you buy a physical copy of a game in a store, you still need to install Steam to use it. How is that not a requirement?

And how about this: If you buy a physical copy of a game and the Steam-server is down or busy, you won't be able to play the game. Even if you download the game from another online-store like Steam, you still have to register it on Steam. So yeah, it's a requirement. Not for every single game, of course, but all games listed on Steam.

Plenty of games don't require steam to be online to play the single player portion, even if they use Steam as their DRM.

Ofc, there are some games where the moment steam goes down, they boot you - dungeon defenders was one particularly bad example, the nightmare dungeons took up to 18 hours to play(although you were mostly afk for the first 15 hours, benefit of it being a RPG/tower defense game), but if you mistimed your run and it coincided with steam's daily patch, you were screwed.

It's not a problem if a game uses steam, it's a problem if they depend on steam's servers in order to give you access to your content.

lonnehart

So basically, to play your Steam game that is physically installed to your computer, you have to be connected to Steam? Which means if you're knocked offline for any reason you can't play your game at all?

prettyboyseta

I don't use steam for my other MMOs, I've read up several threads on separate client bugs via steam apart from those encountered in-game, so I'm glad I have the option to play this game via a separate launcher
@lonneheart for online games, yes. offline games will run steam in the background/offline mode if you're not connected to the net for some reason

hobokenboy

lonnehart wrote: »

So basically, to play your Steam game that is physically installed to your computer, you have to be connected to Steam? Which means if you're knocked offline for any reason you can't play your game at all?

Totally untrue. I have been able to play single player Steam games in offline mode. This company's other two games are listed on Steam, but I can go into the game files and double click Champions.exe and run the game launcher direct without ever firing Steam up.
Edit: It's also for the Steam wallet purchases of Zen.

Edit again:

digibyte wrote: »

the reason why is the game is still in public Beta,

Umm, no. The game was officially launched already. June 20th, iirc.

dardove

ladymythos wrote: »

I'm too close to 40, and yet after all these years, I still don't understand why some people insist on creating a problem where there isn't one. You say it yourself. Some games on Steam requires Steam. That makes it a requirement, so you just try to argue with me by proving my point? I'm not going to ask how that makes any kind of sense.

And there is nothing to indicate that if Neverwinter is added to Steam that you would be required to use it for Neverwinter. Again, look at Champions Online and Star Trek Online.

digibyte

the reason why is the game is still in public Beta, Steam is a large market and anyone not in the know will jump this game when its not ready, which could potentially ruin its player base if some major nerfs come out

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savagedeacon

How others have said : I have CO and STO (both Steam games), I have Steam installated and I have never used Steam to launch any of them. I have always used the Cryptic launcher.

One of the reasons that some publishers choose to have their game on Steam and others don't is this:
http://store.steampowered.com/stats
basically by just looking at it you can see how a game really fares players wise and you can see what game has really more players playing it.

Sure you can argue that not everyone is using Steam but still is safe to think that if a game has more players than another playing it or has its players base increasing or decreasing on Steam that is very likely true for the players that are not playing it on Steam too

axer128

lonnehart wrote: »

And this is one MAJOR reason why when a new console game comes out I'll always buy the disc version. Or any PC game for that matter (thank goodness I still have my old Diablo and Baldurs Gate discs).

By the same vein, discs have limits, discs can wear out fairly quickly. Even if you don't use them, they have a limited shelf life.
Chances are, steam will outlast your discs.

And even if it doesn't, the CEO of valve (steams developer) promised that if for any reason the server were ever to go down, they would disable all drm - and that they already tested such a setup, and it works. Theres also third party things that can already do that today.

So no, there is no risk of losing games just because they use steamworks.

tang56

embracemysword wrote: »

Steam is like facebook, smart people try to avoid using it.

Right... Good luck with that if you aim to play a lot of modern game releases.

zebular

.. . . . I'm sure it will be eventually, just like Star Trek Online and Champions Online are now available on Steam. So are some of Perfect World Entertainment's other titles. Give it time, the game only released just a tad over a month ago. *the mage nods, agreeing with himself as usual*

. . . . Personally, I really love Steam. I get games at ridiculously low prices sometimes. It's great to keep my games all in one place, easily downloadable and manage-able by installing a single program on multiple computers that I use. A program that offers great prices on digitally delivered games, all in one place. When NWO does go to Steam, I'll end up uninstalling all my PWE Titles and re-installing them through Steam.

magic88255

all pwe/cryptic game are on steam , its just a matter of time

fusedmass

I would think its not on steam because of some price this company would have pay steam to do that. Since this game gained a rising number of people using the game, simply no real purpose to promote on steam. They would be taking money out of their own pocket and if you see Zen Store prices, I think you might agree, they would want hold on to as much money as possible.

rhoric

I don't use Steam. Don't like it. Don't know why Steam has to be used.