Meh. Maybe I'll get lucky and they'll discount it.
From what I've seen they mostly just spotlight whatever quest is at the top of the list, so I don't think you have anything to worry about. The thing is, those quests tend to have hundreds or thousands of plays already, and don't really need spotlighted to begin with most of the time.
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lolsorhandMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 981Bounty Hunter
From what I've seen they mostly just spotlight whatever quest is at the top of the list, so I don't think you have anything to worry about. The thing is, those quests tend to have hundreds or thousands of plays already, and don't really need spotlighted to begin with most of the time.
Riddles in the Dark contradicts that statement, and it's a work in progress even. (But that's on me for submitting it too early!)
I think on the main foundry page for the quest, the "submit to cryptic" button becomes "retract" or something like that. At least it used to.
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celantraMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Silverstars, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 465
edited July 2013
The only sure fire way I have found to unsubmit to cryptic and still have a published quest is to copy the quest and then delete the old version. This also resets all reviews and stars.
Hardcore Fanboy with Neverwinter Streaming Cryptic knows about
Indeed, sir.
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zovyaMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited July 2013
Ouch.
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celantraMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Silverstars, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 465
edited July 2013
Don't worry Zov, there are some of us fanboi's that haven't been featured except in Alpha. You do your thing girl. There are a lot of folks that like it just fine.
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cipher9nemoMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I submitted Wicks and Things for spotlight consideration a week or two ago, but now don't want it to be spotlighted. Any way to cancel that?
The quest has been unpublished, does that affect it?
. . . . . Not that I am aware. Once submitted, a copy is made and you cannot edit, delete or remove that copy. My first spotlight mission was for Act I of my campaign, back in Alpha. It no longer is available, however the second time it was spotlight from June 3rd to June 11th is still available, even though it is now quite out-dated. MY current version is now 2.01 where the spotlight version is still 1.33.
. . . . . See the link to Dweomerkeepers Campaign in my signature for my detailing on this. I'm guessing, in time, spotlight missions will become unavailable on their own accord, as the one did when it was spotlight from Alpha to Beta. The one from Beta to Release is still spotlight (as an archive).
From what I've seen they mostly just spotlight whatever quest is at the top of the list, so I don't think you have anything to worry about. The thing is, those quests tend to have hundreds or thousands of plays already, and don't really need spotlighted to begin with most of the time.
. . . . . Now that is one wild assumption! Mine were spotlight of their own accord, I never ranted raved or did anything to get them special attention when they fell off the main list, other than making a feedback thread for them and adding a link to it in my signature. Word of Mouth works far better than anyone's advertising gimicks.
. . . . . In fact, my Campaign has been off the front page since prior to release, and I am still getting hundreds of plays and reviews all the time and you don't see me ranting and raving about reviews and rating and plays all over creation. I trust that when people play them and like them, they will tell their friends, and if their friends play and like them, they will tell theirs, and so on. Plus, I don't create things for recognition, I create them because I enjoy telling my stories that I never got around to DMing in my FR Campaign of 20 years. I digress, as this goes off topic now.
So you got the same quest spotlighted twice, Zeb? Really?
Yup. Certain authors from beta got double featured between the open and closed betas, which is infuriating. It's bad enough Cryptic didn't wipe ratings so everyone gets a fair swipe, but to double feature authors who got tons of attention just for being in the beta is unexcusable.
Also featuring authors already on the best page is mind boggling. Why do they need the extra attention? They already made it. Most gamers play the best list before venturing into the other tabs. It's lazy and thoughtless.
This is a core issue with Cryptic. Too lazy to do things right.
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Every time they idiot-proof something...they make better idiots.
Yup. Certain authors from beta got double featured between the open and closed betas, which is infuriating. It's bad enough Cryptic didn't wipe ratings so everyone gets a fair swipe, but to double feature authors who got tons of attention just for being in the beta is unexcusable.
Also featuring authors already on the best page is mind boggling. Why do they need the extra attention? They already made it. Most gamers play the best list before venturing into the other tabs. It's lazy and thoughtless.
This is a core issue with Cryptic. Too lazy to do things right.
My mind is also boggled.
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celantraMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Silverstars, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 465
edited July 2013
My mind is boggled as well but not for the same reason.
While I do agree to some of the points made here about Cryptic's process of choosing a quest for featuring has left me scratching my head, I do not agree with all of them.
I was in Alpha, Foundry Beta and closed beta and was not featured even though I had a fairly popular quest running for quite some time. I also did not get the "featured author" version of the featured quest, I got the version that gets featured if your quest gets spotlighted. In my eyes there is a difference. One says "hey, check this author out" and the other says "hey, check this quest out". I know most people never noticed the difference between the two, but I do and that's all that matters to me. My point being, I wasn't in that category of being featured just because I was in alpha or the betas.
Also, I have had a quest in the top spot of the best list for a long time (Necropolis of Nightmare), which is leaps and bounds better than the one that was featured and it has not been featured, even though every quest around it has. So, that theory of "top of the best list gets featured" is also thrown out.
The streaming that Cryptic knows about one is also a bogus claim. Our guild has streamed, gotten noticed by Cryptic and even had an interview lined up with a dev and the people who were part of the stream who were not previously featured did not magically get featured because of the stream. Those who were part of the stream who had been featured, were featured before the stream so there is that.
The quest that I did get featured is my worst quest to date IMO and it got featured after the 2nd quest was published which is a much better quest overall so that also had me confused (the featured quest is not even on the best list any longer, its buried in obscurity with the other mediocre past featured quests). But, I was and still am honored to have gotten that notoriety by Cryptic and the player base/fellow authors.
This is not a complaint, or a slight to other authors by any stretch. But I can understand where some authors are getting these ideas from when they look at what has been featured. I also understand that Cryptic is not going to play every quest so what does get featured is going to always most likely going to be a popular quest.
Anyway, sorry for the long post. I don't generally ramble on quite this much but I felt like some things needed to be cleared up a bit as an author who has been featured previously. Now we can go back to complaining about things that matter more, like the lack of true bosses, dragons and g-cubes.
Thank you.
-Chili
There is a rumor floating around that I am working on a new foundry quest. It was started by me.
Also featuring authors already on the best page is mind boggling. Why do they need the extra attention? They already made it. Most gamers play the best list before venturing into the other tabs. It's lazy and thoughtless.
This is a core issue with Cryptic. Too lazy to do things right.
This is kind of... well... wrong. I've been on the top of the best list for as long as I can remember but FINALLY getting featured got me the achievements I had been wanting. There are other reasons besides getting attention and besides, it's not like the feature train ever stops, you have a chance every week.
In other news this post reminded me to start making Christmas cards for all the family I have in Cryptic. Wouldn't want to leave anyone out.
zebularMember, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 15,270Community Moderator
edited July 2013
. . . . . The only reason mine got spotlight twice was due to two things only: One being sheer luck of the draw and two being that at the time of my submissions, there wasn't nearly as many foundry missions available and submitted for spotlighting as there are now. I even remember them thanking me for submitting mine the first time, for at the time, NO ONE had submitted one that was acceptable for the program at the time they had flipped the switch on the Spotlight Program - so in actuality the first one was spotlighted because it was the only one submitted that met the criteria.
. . . . . To claim otherwise would be an insult to my own integrity. I would not want preferential treatment. Besides, the play count on my missions was substantial far before being spotlit the first time. They also have a very strict policy on Foundry Spotlight Missions, in that they need to be original works and not remaking or retellings of existing TSR/WotC adventures and other IP Related things. While this is acceptable for normal UGC missions, it is not for Spotlight Missions.
-Please note that we welcome all of your quest submissions and discussions, but can only feature quests on the Foundry Spotlight that are based on Original IP.
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-Please note that we welcome all of your quest submissions and discussions, but can only feature quests on the Foundry Spotlight that are based on Original IP.
And Keep on the Borderlands was original IP.....right.
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"An Occurrence at Faolon's Field" (daily eligible)
Shortcode: NW-DGPROFMWU
"A Lunacy in Havenlock" (needs reviews!)
Shortcode: NW-DUY2JXAQQ
Wicks and Things: NW-DI4FMZRR4 : The Fenwick merchant family has lost a caravan! Can you help?
Beggar's Hollow: NW-DR6YG4J2L : Someone, or something, has stolen away many of the Fenwicks' children! Can you find out what happened to them?
Into the Fen Wood: NW-DL89DRG7B : Enter the heart of the forest. Can you discover the secret of the Fen Wood?
From what I've seen they mostly just spotlight whatever quest is at the top of the list, so I don't think you have anything to worry about. The thing is, those quests tend to have hundreds or thousands of plays already, and don't really need spotlighted to begin with most of the time.
Riddles in the Dark contradicts that statement, and it's a work in progress even. (But that's on me for submitting it too early!)
Brethren of the Five, Campaign. - Story focused
The Dwarven Tale - Hack 'N Slash
Wicks and Things: NW-DI4FMZRR4 : The Fenwick merchant family has lost a caravan! Can you help?
Beggar's Hollow: NW-DR6YG4J2L : Someone, or something, has stolen away many of the Fenwicks' children! Can you find out what happened to them?
Into the Fen Wood: NW-DL89DRG7B : Enter the heart of the forest. Can you discover the secret of the Fen Wood?
Being featured used to be prestigious, but after you see how thoughtless the picking is, it loses its charm real fast.
Every time they idiot-proof something...they make better idiots.
Sadly I believe you're right.
QFT. I would even add to that list...
Hammerfist Clan. Jump into the Night: NW-DMXWRYTAD
Indeed, sir.
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No personal insult intended, just poking fun. I've enjoyed your videos, zovya.
Hammerfist Clan. Jump into the Night: NW-DMXWRYTAD
Every time they idiot-proof something...they make better idiots.
Okie dokies. Although, for the record, I was featured well before I started streaming.
Good to know. So there is hope as long as you're not friends/family of devs?
Hammerfist Clan. Jump into the Night: NW-DMXWRYTAD
. . . . . See the link to Dweomerkeepers Campaign in my signature for my detailing on this. I'm guessing, in time, spotlight missions will become unavailable on their own accord, as the one did when it was spotlight from Alpha to Beta. The one from Beta to Release is still spotlight (as an archive).
. . . . . Now that is one wild assumption! Mine were spotlight of their own accord, I never ranted raved or did anything to get them special attention when they fell off the main list, other than making a feedback thread for them and adding a link to it in my signature. Word of Mouth works far better than anyone's advertising gimicks.
. . . . . In fact, my Campaign has been off the front page since prior to release, and I am still getting hundreds of plays and reviews all the time and you don't see me ranting and raving about reviews and rating and plays all over creation. I trust that when people play them and like them, they will tell their friends, and if their friends play and like them, they will tell theirs, and so on. Plus, I don't create things for recognition, I create them because I enjoy telling my stories that I never got around to DMing in my FR Campaign of 20 years. I digress, as this goes off topic now.
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Yup. Certain authors from beta got double featured between the open and closed betas, which is infuriating. It's bad enough Cryptic didn't wipe ratings so everyone gets a fair swipe, but to double feature authors who got tons of attention just for being in the beta is unexcusable.
Also featuring authors already on the best page is mind boggling. Why do they need the extra attention? They already made it. Most gamers play the best list before venturing into the other tabs. It's lazy and thoughtless.
This is a core issue with Cryptic. Too lazy to do things right.
Every time they idiot-proof something...they make better idiots.
My mind is also boggled.
I was in Alpha, Foundry Beta and closed beta and was not featured even though I had a fairly popular quest running for quite some time. I also did not get the "featured author" version of the featured quest, I got the version that gets featured if your quest gets spotlighted. In my eyes there is a difference. One says "hey, check this author out" and the other says "hey, check this quest out". I know most people never noticed the difference between the two, but I do and that's all that matters to me. My point being, I wasn't in that category of being featured just because I was in alpha or the betas.
Also, I have had a quest in the top spot of the best list for a long time (Necropolis of Nightmare), which is leaps and bounds better than the one that was featured and it has not been featured, even though every quest around it has. So, that theory of "top of the best list gets featured" is also thrown out.
The streaming that Cryptic knows about one is also a bogus claim. Our guild has streamed, gotten noticed by Cryptic and even had an interview lined up with a dev and the people who were part of the stream who were not previously featured did not magically get featured because of the stream. Those who were part of the stream who had been featured, were featured before the stream so there is that.
The quest that I did get featured is my worst quest to date IMO and it got featured after the 2nd quest was published which is a much better quest overall so that also had me confused (the featured quest is not even on the best list any longer, its buried in obscurity with the other mediocre past featured quests). But, I was and still am honored to have gotten that notoriety by Cryptic and the player base/fellow authors.
This is not a complaint, or a slight to other authors by any stretch. But I can understand where some authors are getting these ideas from when they look at what has been featured. I also understand that Cryptic is not going to play every quest so what does get featured is going to always most likely going to be a popular quest.
Anyway, sorry for the long post. I don't generally ramble on quite this much but I felt like some things needed to be cleared up a bit as an author who has been featured previously. Now we can go back to complaining about things that matter more, like the lack of true bosses, dragons and g-cubes.
Thank you.
-Chili
This is kind of... well... wrong. I've been on the top of the best list for as long as I can remember but FINALLY getting featured got me the achievements I had been wanting. There are other reasons besides getting attention and besides, it's not like the feature train ever stops, you have a chance every week.
In other news this post reminded me to start making Christmas cards for all the family I have in Cryptic. Wouldn't want to leave anyone out.
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. . . . . To claim otherwise would be an insult to my own integrity. I would not want preferential treatment. Besides, the play count on my missions was substantial far before being spotlit the first time. They also have a very strict policy on Foundry Spotlight Missions, in that they need to be original works and not remaking or retellings of existing TSR/WotC adventures and other IP Related things. While this is acceptable for normal UGC missions, it is not for Spotlight Missions.
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And Keep on the Borderlands was original IP.....right.
Every time they idiot-proof something...they make better idiots.
QFT
/10 lies