I have the Teifling Cleric and she is only slightly better then the regular white quality one when running epics
I found that the extra 2k Hp does actually help quite a bit. Considering that the Tiefling Cleric was about $8, i.e. ~800 ZEN or 250-275K AD and is per account and it is a pretty good deal.
I found that the extra 2k Hp does actually help quite a bit. Considering that the Tiefling Cleric was about $8, i.e. ~800 ZEN or 250-275K AD and is per account and it is a pretty good deal.
I agree that the tiefling is pretty nice to have, but when you consider that I paid $7 and its available for 4 chars...more if I had more slots, then the comparable price of upgrading from white to green for a SINGLE charis "too **** high."
Foundry - Fight Club? (nw-dluqbofu7)
- JailBreak (in development)
I agree that the tiefling is pretty nice to have, but when you consider that I paid $7 and its available for 4 chars...more if I had more slots, then the comparable price of upgrading from white to green for a SINGLE charis "too **** high."
Yes definitely.
Same situation as with the mount upgrade costs - for the amount of AD needed to buy the upgrade tomes for one character you can can get an account bound Mount for all your characters......
there are always 3 kind of people that can always buy the expensive stuff..
ealry exploiters (short ban spans no permanet ban in game)
people with a lot of money (they either buy zen to change it or go to Gold sellers and buy from them)
and people with a lot lot of time
as for the discussion about how to get 100k a day, yes you can do that using the 24k cap daily(that i have never being able to full refine the cap on normal days just on the double Ad event) and selling stuff that you earn playing the game, i did that for a week playing around 5 hours daily and in one week i was able to earn like 850 k AD
personally speaking doing the daily AD rewards, plus de skirmish event not sure what other ways to reach that 24k daily in 5 hours cause here are the numbers.
5k AD for all the GG event
3k Ad for dungeon (dread vault)
4k AD from PVP
2k AD from Skirmish plus 1-2k from skirmish event(exact number i do not remember i think it can be run between 3 to 4 times within the time for the event)
2k invocation
leadership i do not have it in lv 20 is in lv 17, so apart from the rare task that gies you 1600 for 12 hours the other good one that do not cost resources to get is the spellplague one that gives you 400 in 6 hours i think so even using some blues and other within the day (12 hours period) you will be able to gain with 6 slots available, 4800 from the rare task and 2400 on spellplague, if you are lucky and have other resources like maps or refugees, then that can increse between 2k and 3k more
so at the end you will have daily between 24k and 25k, however you need to at least spend 5 hours in one char to do that and be sure to play GG event (fast runs on dungeons), dungeon duelve(any quick and with good drop) and skirmish event.
so in my case when i normally play. i usually play around 1 up to 3 hours daily, and probably between 3 to 5 days in a 7 day week, so with that i can say that with luck i do between 50 to 75k AD weekly, however i can say that during that week that i played a lot a was able to earn serious AD, and well i can think that people that play all day long will be able to earn even more.
as for the companions to be on topic.... well i will save enough to convert my cat to lv 30 cause it probably will have an increase in stats and probably an increase in the % buff, maybe they can also make him move over HP like 20% so that will be a good change DPs will certanly increase for the owners of stone/cat. as for the healer companion, well i think that will lv it increases the amount of HP that it will have so i can probably invest to do it blue probably not sure if the heal will increase as well cause currently she does not heal quite much, there should be a comparison between the one with the harp that is a very rare drop from professionals packs and the common (and green teafling) that have basically the same healing amount to see which one is better healer
Everything works out in the end . If it hasn't worked out yet, it isn't the end...
Does anyone who has tested this know whether it is possible to do multiple upgrades -- i.e., to upgrade the stock cleric to green and then blue and then purple, or is it only one step upgrade permitted per companion?
I ask because there is currently no purple healer other than the Vegas box scenario.
I just upgraded it to green, didn't get any option to upgrade further. Perhaps if it reaches level 20 this will open up. I also bought a cat and it has no option to upgrade so I think that's likely.
I will probably upgrade two of my companions - change my blue stone to a purple one - it will give a decent boost in stats,
Please, can someone answer following questions?
1)Stone of might: which stat it do, now, at level 25 and which amount? 150?
2)Stone of allure: same question...
3) Cat: same question: which stat it do, now, at level 25 and which amount? 233? I saw a video on youtube in which a cat had 223 without items, but i'm not sure
If you can try upgrade in the preview...
3) which amount of stat they do at rank 30?
4) which passive abilities they gain at rank 30?
These prices are definitely for two types of people. AD millionaires from all the exploits and people with lots more $$ then time.
Agreed. I have been playing since early May, have 2 maxed out chars, and about 175k AD between them. I did make about 200k on the Enclave invasion event, because I lucked out and got about 4 blue skeleton dogs, and have since spent that on T2 gear. I haven't farmed CN or other T2 dungeons much because I find it hard to get a group, and then to finish the dungeon. CN especially, I have spend 2-3 hours sometimes only to wipe on the last boss repeatedly until someone quits.
Anyway... yes I'd say most of the players with millions+ of AD either exploited or bought it with real money dollars..
Agreed. I have been playing since early May, have 2 maxed out chars, and about 175k AD between them. I did make about 200k on the Enclave invasion event, because I lucked out and got about 4 blue skeleton dogs, and have since spent that on T2 gear. I haven't farmed CN or other T2 dungeons much because I find it hard to get a group, and then to finish the dungeon. CN especially, I have spend 2-3 hours sometimes only to wipe on the last boss repeatedly until someone quits.
Anyway... yes I'd say most of the players with millions+ of AD either exploited or bought it with real money dollars..
I think the vast majority of players are in your shoes in this. But there will always be people here beating their chests and saying how easy and simple everything is - sure, some might be right (for them), but most are just e-peen boasting, I think.
Excluded from this is obviously the remaining players in somewhat dedicated guilds with groups that successfully ran certain dungeons and farmed drops for AH.
It is easy, dailies, selling purples, etc... but nobody said it was quick which I find many complaints come from. People want it *now* and aren't willing to take the time to earn it. Then they blame the Zen store and real money. Seriously you can get anything out of this game with enough effort and you don't even have to spend a dime.
I only have 5 open slots on my main, so I can't run 6-7 leadership tasks anyway. I do use this for AD of course.
I do invocation daily as well, but that seems to be only about 3k if I hit alot on my L60.
I don't have any profession to L 20 yet, so nothing there for me at all...
Some times I try to farm nodes during the profession event, but I don't usually have the time to do this
I too run dungeons, but since I don't have 14k gear score, I am either getting things I can use or junk that sells for 2k AD.
Ultimately this all relies on other people having AD to spend, which means everyone can't easy mode farm AD.
Who ever said that AD should be easy to farm? It sounds like you're doing everything right, just give it time to accumulate.
you realize this game is just a cash grab dont you? ... people come in and see all of the content in a month, and quickly lvl to max and move on.... PWE is jsut trying to grab as much cash from people as they pass through this sleeper of a game.
Why are you even here? I've been playing over a month and still haven't seen all the T2's or CN. I am at max level but I haven't moved on. You don't have to spend *any* cash unless you want to, everything can be earned with time and effort.
Not tested, but I believe the announcement indicated you could rank them all the way up, but it was linear progression, meaning you couldn't just buy the upgrade to purple and stick it directly on your white companion.
That makes sense, thanks.
I think for foundry players without non-Vegas access to a purple healer that may be attractive. Not for "endgame group content", but for foundry endgame.
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brendan03usMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
It is easy, dailies, selling purples, etc... but nobody said it was quick which I find many complaints come from. People want it *now* and aren't willing to take the time to earn it. Then they blame the Zen store and real money. Seriously you can get anything out of this game with enough effort and you don't even have to spend a dime.
It's true, but it's about the 30-45 minutes issue.
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dirtyhookMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
there are always 3 kind of people that can always buy the expensive stuff..
ealry exploiters (short ban spans no permanet ban in game)
people with a lot of money (they either buy zen to change it or go to Gold sellers and buy from them)
and people with a lot lot of time
as for the discussion about how to get 100k a day, yes you can do that using the 24k cap daily(that i have never being able to full refine the cap on normal days just on the double Ad event) and selling stuff that you earn playing the game, i did that for a week playing around 5 hours daily and in one week i was able to earn like 850 k AD
This is what I love. You spent 35 hours grinding away in the game to make 850k AD or around 2500 zen. You basically made $1.40/hr.
If you worked a part time job you would have had that in 3 hours at min. wage and saved yourself 32 hours (or 4 complete 8 hour shifts) of time and ended up with the same result. More if the 20% bonus thing was on.
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tang56Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
This is what I love. You spent 35 hours grinding away in the game to make 850k AD or around 2500 zen. You basically made $1.40/hr.
If you worked a part time job you would have had that in 3 hours at min. wage and saved yourself 32 hours (or 4 complete 8 hour shifts) of time and ended up with the same result. More if the 20% bonus thing was on.
Completely agree. It's Western MMO Gamer Disease, due to being addicted to all-you-can-eat buffets of $15/month, which has really only been viable, long term, for EVE and WoW.
Completely agree. It's Western MMO Gamer Disease, due to being addicted to all-you-can-eat buffets of $15/month, which has really only been viable, long term, for EVE and WoW.
I don't want to mindlessly grind HAMSTER for measly rewards and at the same time I would love some challenge and adventure. So going middle way is cool. It is always possible to grind some amount with AD and a bit from my wallet.
Devs need to eat and live too.
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ranncoreMember, Moderators, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 2,508
edited July 2013
I make about 40k AD every day just logging on, doing professions and praying. If I throw a couple CN runs in there my AD goes up significantly.
It will take some grinding to upgrade my companions, but these prices are by no means outrageous.
More people wanting stuff to be easier. Nothing to see here.
This is what I love. You spent 35 hours grinding away in the game to make 850k AD or around 2500 zen. You basically made $1.40/hr.
If you worked a part time job you would have had that in 3 hours at min. wage and saved yourself 32 hours (or 4 complete 8 hour shifts) of time and ended up with the same result. More if the 20% bonus thing was on.
Playing a game is supposed to be a leisure pursuit. How about I go to work and make 2 grand a week and don't play any games at all. lol I saved myself 32 hours and made 40 times as much as I could have made for a virtual currency that doesn't feed the kids! What has that got to do with anything?
Playing a game is supposed to be a leisure pursuit. How about I go to work and make 2 grand a week and don't play any games at all. lol I saved myself 32 hours and made 40 times as much as I could have made for a virtual currency that doesn't feed the kids! What has that got to do with anything?
its all about whats more important to you. time or money.
Foundry - Fight Club? (nw-dluqbofu7)
- JailBreak (in development)
3 - Rank 8 Dark Enchantments - 5 Mil AD
6 - Rank 8 Radiant Enchantments - 6 Mil AD
4 - Greater Tenebrous - 8 Mil AD
2 - Rank 8 Profane Runestone - 2 Mil AD
1 - Rank 8 Eldritch Runestone - 500k AD
3 - Rank 8 Azure Enchantment - 2 Mil AD
1 - Greater Soulforged Enchantment - 4 Mil AD
1 - Greater Plague Fire Enchantment - 2 Mil AD
1 - Perfect Lightning Enchantment - 10 Mil AD
1 - Cat - 990k AD
Playing a game is supposed to be a leisure pursuit. How about I go to work and make 2 grand a week and don't play any games at all. lol I saved myself 32 hours and made 40 times as much as I could have made for a virtual currency that doesn't feed the kids! What has that got to do with anything?
Yeah. It's a toxic rationale, to align in-game tasks with real-world wages. Unfortunately, Cryptic/PWE opened the door; I can't quite help thinking of AD in terms of real dollars whenever I consider what it would take to grind out X amount of AD. I end up dismissing the comparison, because a game really should be regarded as self-contained, but once you've learned that ~350 AD equals 1 cent, you can't unlearn it.
That said, and to your point, the problem solves itself if you simply refuse to do anything in the game that you don't enjoy. Grind to the extent that it pleases you to do so. Or just play the game for the sake of playing the game, and the AD will trickle in. If there's something you really want right now, and the prospect of grinding it out in-game depresses you, then sure, go ahead and buy it. I bought a horse for that reason. Nothing wrong with using money now and again.
But to argue that any amount of in-game earning is pathetic per se, because any RL job will pay you more over time than in-game grinding will ... That strikes me as self-defeating, if your goal is to have fun in your free time.
3 - Rank 8 Dark Enchantments - 5 Mil AD
6 - Rank 8 Radiant Enchantments - 6 Mil AD
4 - Greater Tenebrous - 8 Mil AD
2 - Rank 8 Profane Runestone - 2 Mil AD
1 - Rank 8 Eldritch Runestone - 500k AD
3 - Rank 8 Azure Enchantment - 2 Mil AD
1 - Greater Soulforged Enchantment - 4 Mil AD
1 - Greater Plague Fire Enchantment - 2 Mil AD
1 - Perfect Lightning Enchantment - 10 Mil AD
1 - Cat - 990k AD
Level 25 to 30 Upgrade for Cat 750k AD
For everything else there is Mastercard!
1166.62 GBP, 1356.53 Euro or ~$1178(since no +25% "tax" for USD and for some reason the US gets better Zen deals than the rest of the world on top of that.)
1166.62 GBP, 1356.53 Euro or ~$1178(since no +25% "tax" for USD and for some reason the US gets better Zen deals than the rest of the world on top of that.)
I've shared this with some friends and I'll share with you:
Gamecards - $45-47 for $50 game card = 6050 Zen. $10.50 Free Zen.
I made 10's of millions of AD at start of game when Zen:AD was 500:1, played Zen/AD market like the stock market and did surveys every day. Now the easiest way to farm AD is by making many alts and farm leadership on 30+ alts.
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tang56Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I've shared this with some friends and I'll share with you:
Gamecards - $45-47 for $50 game card = 6050 Zen. $10.50 Free Zen.
I made 10's of millions of AD at start of game when Zen:AD was 500:1, played Zen/AD market like the stock market and did surveys every day. Now the easiest way to farm AD is by making many alts and farm leadership on 30+ alts.
Can't get game cards in the UK. I made a couple mill with the spike for the RNG healer playing the zen market and I've got it reconverted to zen ready for the fey wild expansion. TBH, I don't have the time/patience/bots to farm leadership on 30+ alts.
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I found that the extra 2k Hp does actually help quite a bit. Considering that the Tiefling Cleric was about $8, i.e. ~800 ZEN or 250-275K AD and is per account and it is a pretty good deal.
I agree that the tiefling is pretty nice to have, but when you consider that I paid $7 and its available for 4 chars...more if I had more slots, then the comparable price of upgrading from white to green for a SINGLE charis "too **** high."
- JailBreak (in development)
Yes definitely.
Same situation as with the mount upgrade costs - for the amount of AD needed to buy the upgrade tomes for one character you can can get an account bound Mount for all your characters......
ealry exploiters (short ban spans no permanet ban in game)
people with a lot of money (they either buy zen to change it or go to Gold sellers and buy from them)
and people with a lot lot of time
as for the discussion about how to get 100k a day, yes you can do that using the 24k cap daily(that i have never being able to full refine the cap on normal days just on the double Ad event) and selling stuff that you earn playing the game, i did that for a week playing around 5 hours daily and in one week i was able to earn like 850 k AD
personally speaking doing the daily AD rewards, plus de skirmish event not sure what other ways to reach that 24k daily in 5 hours cause here are the numbers.
5k AD for all the GG event
3k Ad for dungeon (dread vault)
4k AD from PVP
2k AD from Skirmish plus 1-2k from skirmish event(exact number i do not remember i think it can be run between 3 to 4 times within the time for the event)
2k invocation
leadership i do not have it in lv 20 is in lv 17, so apart from the rare task that gies you 1600 for 12 hours the other good one that do not cost resources to get is the spellplague one that gives you 400 in 6 hours i think so even using some blues and other within the day (12 hours period) you will be able to gain with 6 slots available, 4800 from the rare task and 2400 on spellplague, if you are lucky and have other resources like maps or refugees, then that can increse between 2k and 3k more
so at the end you will have daily between 24k and 25k, however you need to at least spend 5 hours in one char to do that and be sure to play GG event (fast runs on dungeons), dungeon duelve(any quick and with good drop) and skirmish event.
so in my case when i normally play. i usually play around 1 up to 3 hours daily, and probably between 3 to 5 days in a 7 day week, so with that i can say that with luck i do between 50 to 75k AD weekly, however i can say that during that week that i played a lot a was able to earn serious AD, and well i can think that people that play all day long will be able to earn even more.
as for the companions to be on topic.... well i will save enough to convert my cat to lv 30 cause it probably will have an increase in stats and probably an increase in the % buff, maybe they can also make him move over HP like 20% so that will be a good change
I just upgraded it to green, didn't get any option to upgrade further. Perhaps if it reaches level 20 this will open up. I also bought a cat and it has no option to upgrade so I think that's likely.
Please, can someone answer following questions?
1)Stone of might: which stat it do, now, at level 25 and which amount? 150?
2)Stone of allure: same question...
3) Cat: same question: which stat it do, now, at level 25 and which amount? 233? I saw a video on youtube in which a cat had 223 without items, but i'm not sure
If you can try upgrade in the preview...
3) which amount of stat they do at rank 30?
4) which passive abilities they gain at rank 30?
ty
Agreed. I have been playing since early May, have 2 maxed out chars, and about 175k AD between them. I did make about 200k on the Enclave invasion event, because I lucked out and got about 4 blue skeleton dogs, and have since spent that on T2 gear. I haven't farmed CN or other T2 dungeons much because I find it hard to get a group, and then to finish the dungeon. CN especially, I have spend 2-3 hours sometimes only to wipe on the last boss repeatedly until someone quits.
Anyway... yes I'd say most of the players with millions+ of AD either exploited or bought it with real money dollars..
I think the vast majority of players are in your shoes in this. But there will always be people here beating their chests and saying how easy and simple everything is - sure, some might be right (for them), but most are just e-peen boasting, I think.
Excluded from this is obviously the remaining players in somewhat dedicated guilds with groups that successfully ran certain dungeons and farmed drops for AH.
WhAT do you mean why make it cost so much????
You do know what type of revinue model this game uses right.
F2P LOL ya right.
Who ever said that AD should be easy to farm? It sounds like you're doing everything right, just give it time to accumulate.
Why are you even here? I've been playing over a month and still haven't seen all the T2's or CN. I am at max level but I haven't moved on. You don't have to spend *any* cash unless you want to, everything can be earned with time and effort.
Not to start the argument back up, but near the front of this topic, there were two people actually who said farming 100k AD a day was easy.
- JailBreak (in development)
That makes sense, thanks.
I think for foundry players without non-Vegas access to a purple healer that may be attractive. Not for "endgame group content", but for foundry endgame.
It's true, but it's about the 30-45 minutes issue.
This is what I love. You spent 35 hours grinding away in the game to make 850k AD or around 2500 zen. You basically made $1.40/hr.
If you worked a part time job you would have had that in 3 hours at min. wage and saved yourself 32 hours (or 4 complete 8 hour shifts) of time and ended up with the same result. More if the 20% bonus thing was on.
It's perfectly correct. Free 2 Pay.
Completely agree. It's Western MMO Gamer Disease, due to being addicted to all-you-can-eat buffets of $15/month, which has really only been viable, long term, for EVE and WoW.
I don't want to mindlessly grind HAMSTER for measly rewards and at the same time I would love some challenge and adventure. So going middle way is cool. It is always possible to grind some amount with AD and a bit from my wallet.
Devs need to eat and live too.
It will take some grinding to upgrade my companions, but these prices are by no means outrageous.
More people wanting stuff to be easier. Nothing to see here.
Playing a game is supposed to be a leisure pursuit. How about I go to work and make 2 grand a week and don't play any games at all. lol I saved myself 32 hours and made 40 times as much as I could have made for a virtual currency that doesn't feed the kids! What has that got to do with anything?
its all about whats more important to you. time or money.
- JailBreak (in development)
6 - Rank 8 Radiant Enchantments - 6 Mil AD
4 - Greater Tenebrous - 8 Mil AD
2 - Rank 8 Profane Runestone - 2 Mil AD
1 - Rank 8 Eldritch Runestone - 500k AD
3 - Rank 8 Azure Enchantment - 2 Mil AD
1 - Greater Soulforged Enchantment - 4 Mil AD
1 - Greater Plague Fire Enchantment - 2 Mil AD
1 - Perfect Lightning Enchantment - 10 Mil AD
1 - Cat - 990k AD
Level 25 to 30 Upgrade for Cat 750k AD
For everything else there is Mastercard!
so if I choose to play a game time is more important to me, or money is?
Yeah. It's a toxic rationale, to align in-game tasks with real-world wages. Unfortunately, Cryptic/PWE opened the door; I can't quite help thinking of AD in terms of real dollars whenever I consider what it would take to grind out X amount of AD. I end up dismissing the comparison, because a game really should be regarded as self-contained, but once you've learned that ~350 AD equals 1 cent, you can't unlearn it.
That said, and to your point, the problem solves itself if you simply refuse to do anything in the game that you don't enjoy. Grind to the extent that it pleases you to do so. Or just play the game for the sake of playing the game, and the AD will trickle in. If there's something you really want right now, and the prospect of grinding it out in-game depresses you, then sure, go ahead and buy it. I bought a horse for that reason. Nothing wrong with using money now and again.
But to argue that any amount of in-game earning is pathetic per se, because any RL job will pay you more over time than in-game grinding will ... That strikes me as self-defeating, if your goal is to have fun in your free time.
1166.62 GBP, 1356.53 Euro or ~$1178(since no +25% "tax" for USD and for some reason the US gets better Zen deals than the rest of the world on top of that.)
I've shared this with some friends and I'll share with you:
Gamecards - $45-47 for $50 game card = 6050 Zen. $10.50 Free Zen.
I made 10's of millions of AD at start of game when Zen:AD was 500:1, played Zen/AD market like the stock market and did surveys every day. Now the easiest way to farm AD is by making many alts and farm leadership on 30+ alts.
Can't get game cards in the UK. I made a couple mill with the spike for the RNG healer playing the zen market and I've got it reconverted to zen ready for the fey wild expansion. TBH, I don't have the time/patience/bots to farm leadership on 30+ alts.