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TR's make pvp not fun
seraphid11
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The only class that can just **** with at-wills( also while beiing invisible, like i have time to "look for rat throwing knifes at me" while its 5v5 match and in the process i just die from others.1-2 skill Ko, while well geared can use 2-3 utility encounters and kill easily with at-wills.i would rather fight a gwfs at least i can see what i fight with and have time to react instead of die instantly.
In last "balance" patch rogues got buffed.
Trickster Rogue
Encounter and Daily powers now benefit more from the Power stat.(just lol at this, WHY?"i was able to almost 1hit lashing blade that cleric and wiz,****, now its 100% death")
nerfed shockimg execution which was obvious that it needed nerf
nerfed stacking bleed from atwill to prevent ultra fast boss **** in dgs by doing it with 2-3 trs(actually its great cause it made a little more room for other dps classes in party)
Some mentally <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> ppl cry that trs got nerfed... /facepalm
To sum this up, rogues are simply too strong for what they are able to do.
In last "balance" patch rogues got buffed.
Trickster Rogue
Encounter and Daily powers now benefit more from the Power stat.(just lol at this, WHY?"i was able to almost 1hit lashing blade that cleric and wiz,****, now its 100% death")
nerfed shockimg execution which was obvious that it needed nerf
nerfed stacking bleed from atwill to prevent ultra fast boss **** in dgs by doing it with 2-3 trs(actually its great cause it made a little more room for other dps classes in party)
Some mentally <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> ppl cry that trs got nerfed... /facepalm
To sum this up, rogues are simply too strong for what they are able to do.
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http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?396031-Stealth-FAQ-vs-misconceptions-and-hysteria
In real life in rogue vs knight battles its the knights that win unless archers are brought into play. Sure there is the battle of Sterling Bridge that didn't play out as such, but that victory had all to do with terrain.
ur answer is here(from same post) :
Personally I do have TR myself, but he is only L 22 and I have been leveling exclusively in PVP. So yes I understand that TR can burst some serious dmg, but there are many times that I have to run away or die fast.
- JailBreak (in development)
CWs make pvp not fun
GFs make pvp not fun
actually this isnt true, for more tolling u forgot to put cleric there
u have time and can react properly vs this other classes, not when a rogue with stealth throw knifes for almost ur full hp. let me guess, u play rogue right?roflstopming ppl by this easiest class to pplay is fun for u right?
give some briliant ideas to avoid stealth rogues with knifes like pressing shift whole pvp when u have stamina please
nah, DC dont make pvp not fun, at least they have some shiney colors
u dont understand, im not cleric,wizard who QQ about rogues, i play every class except rogue ( its just lame, not challenging.too easy ) power of TR along with good gear rises way too high compared to other classes
but whatever, raging is easier then learning, i get that
i have Tr and triend him in pvp at lv 60, and stopped.yeah sure when at 1st i was killing ppl like no problem it felt great, but after few pvps it became stupid and boring, im not raging, im pointing facts and looking for balance
Well, I am sorry if I read your first post here and used reading comprehension to conclude that this was another nerf thread. My apologies. By all means, carry on with the complaints and arguing... it does you a whole lot of good, after all.
If by some chance you wish to break out the rut you are experiencing with regards to rogues, then I encourage you to revisit that thread I linked with an open mind -- not one that is bent on cherry-picking the complaints out of it -- and you will discover to your benefit a veritable treasure trove of insight from all the classes concerning this issue, as well as pointers, strategies, and all-around learning goodness. You will be treated fairly and with respect if you decide to ask any further questions there.
The choice is yours... nobody is going to force you to learn anything or get any better at playing this game.
i understand that u will defend TR's forver, u farmed (bought?ofc no offense, ur money ur will) ur TR so its ok,but "learning" in this game dont exist, u just have to read every skill in the game of every class and try it, its not so hard to understand which class has which advantage. Thing is, TR has huge advantage above other classes.
Where? in 2x higher dmg at wills than other classes. try kill someone just with at wills (like rogue), on cleric,wizard,gf,gwf, its not possible unless enemy is afk.
There is reason why most played class is TR
(sigh)
Okay, I'm done here. Like I said before, if you change your mind, you know where to look for more info. That's the best that anyone can do for you at this point. Take care, my friend.
Typical response from someone who sucks at a particular class and wants them nerfed. Its just lame not challenging, to easy???????
I could say the SAME thing about GWF's and GF's in pvp but I don't because every class has a role and every class seems to fit in their role. Just because YOU don't want to fit inside that roll in no way means another class is OP or UP.
You want OP in pvp just look no further than a GWF or GF in a 1v1 or even 2v1 scenario.
just cause you havent tried it doesnt mean it doesnt exist
go ahead, give it a try and youll be surprised
AND ofc youre lying too
ignoring seraphid11 isnt the solution though
You are correct ignoring something doesn't make the problem go away. Yet at the same time UNLESS this problem decides to take some advice and actually listen to opinions nothing will change. We all know his biggest problem with Rogues is he has never LEVELED one. You can't understand your enemy 100% until you walk in their shoes and he has admitted to never playing one for reasons that are well stupid.
If he thinks a TR is easier and faster than a GWF and or CW he has issues that are well beyond what we can fix.
Please read again what i said, do u have problem with to understand it? i have rogue at lv 60 but i dont play it cause pvp as rogue is way too easy and not challenging at all.
Again, just for you with bigger letters:
I HAVE ROGUE, BUT I DONT PLAY IT. and furthermore, just in case:
I WAS PLAYING ROGUE, BUT I STOPPED.
if still u cannot understand this, PM me ill try to explain more
if u disagree its ok, u like ur TR, from my point of view TR is at stronger side than other classes
do u think i care if u ignore me ? u r funny, and its my 1st post about tr on this forum
Forum is to share what people think, i made my mind about TR, sure TR players are majority and ppl who play and grind them will disagree
Your stupid posts make no fun ...
And here is the reason:
I really don't see any problems with the class that exceed ones other classes present also.
Do you think I enjoy being rushed and knocked down by GFs all the time and then piled?
Or picked up by a mage right when I use my stealth?
Or nearly killing a GWF only for them to use unstoppable and kill me?
Every class has it's ways.
Although I do agree that perma-stealth and knife spam are cheap, nooby ways to play,
not all TRs use those tactics in PvP.
However, in a game like this you're going to have people doing whatever they can to win,
so if that's how they accomplish it, there's not going to be much luck in getting them to stop.
Hyenas@zokir - Essence of Aggression
until rogues stop out killing every other class by 2 or 3 to 1 and stop having kill to death ratios that are sky high and able to do all of this while stealthed we just don't care how rogues feel in PvP
a GF can 2/3 Shot you with his Daily + 2 knocks.
a GWF can stun lock you to death ( destroyer or Sentinel builds)
a CW can control you then ice knife your butt.
About stealth, it gets consumed if i use an encounter (except for defensive encounters like "Bait and Switch" and shadow strike(deals very low damage) )
Your post doesn't make any sense.
people in pvp usually fail at "teamplay" so tr can do well.
I cant stand people that fight in groups, because as soon as I am exposed, I am gang <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and it hurts my buttox
Having people take all the abilities of ALL the builds of TRs, combining them and pretending that that is possible while having none of the inherent weaknesses of said builds is disinformation spread that will eventually lead to the class being handicapped. It happens in every mmo at one time or another simply because of the hate associated with being attacked from stealth. In other words. Man up and deal with it or stop playing mmos with stealthers.
75% of the thread are rogues that are either one or a combination of
A.) Undergeared
B.) Incompetent players
C.) Ignorant players
D.) Trolls that fear the nerf bat
You make claims that other people have "made up their mind already." As if to say, you haven't done the exact same thing, all the while ignoring video evidence (in the other 25% of the thread) and comments from more renown pvpers that use the perma stealth build and say that it is "el oh el" overpowered. You then say that since there's people that agree with you (All of which fall into the categories above) you are right and anybody else is wrong. But hey at least you do it in a respective manner. Props for respectful hypocrisy.