Is this behavior condoned? Is it really possible that the game was designed so poorly that it allows the enemies to camp spawn sites? I am literally shocked. Maybe I was wrong about this game.
This has been addressed for regular PvP recently and so will probably also be addressed for Gauntlgrym.
This actually isn't true. They attempted to fix it but they failed. You can still easily spawn camp on both PvP maps and you can also easily spawn camp on GG.
you know how embarassing it is and how bad you must be to get spawn camped in a 20v20 pvp match. What are you guys even doing, and how could you lose so bad. This is just plain embarassing, and i think the title of the post should be <redacted>.
Is this behavior condoned? Is it really possible that the game was designed so poorly that it allows <edit> to play Gauntlgyrm pvp? I am literally shocked. Maybe I was wrong about this game.
This should be the way the OP should have phrased it.
you know how embarassing it is and how bad you must be to get spawn camped in a 20v20 pvp match. What are you guys even doing, and how could you lose so bad. This is just plain embarassing, and i think the title of the post should be HAMSTER Idiots are allowed in Gauntlgrym PVP.
rapticorMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,078Arc User
edited July 2013
While it's clearly not an exploit or anything it is pretty bad design if the opposing team can get to your spawn point. As someone pointed out they have (sort of) addressed this in the 2 current PvP maps so it's obviously not something they want to have happen. I should be surprised it's possible in Gauntlgrym but... for some reason I am not.
The main thing to note about this point is that it was made as a response to the spawn camping that occured in normal PvP. I have no problem with that spawn camping, because like the admin said, the other team has clearly lost if they are being spawn camped. This is not the case with Gauntlgrym. With Gauntlgrym spawn camping, you give the other team no chance because your whole guild has prepared to spawn camp, you all queue together to make sure that you have an advantage over the other team. You guys even follow a timer to CC everything that spawns. The other team can't be prepared for it, unless it's another huge guild which decides to do the same thing.
Simply put, the difference between the two instances is that in the first one you won legit and spawn camped as a result, but in the latter one you simply rush for it as a strategy and abuse the fact that you have a big team who don't mind going for an unfair advantage, which prevents others to play the game. You guys do it because you are 1) classless and 2) more focused on grinding coins than caring about other people's experiences in the game.
I sincerely hope that because of your childish and abusive behavior you get exactly what you deserve: no respect, and no PvP premade action which could give you a challenge. This means you are guaranteed to get bored of the content, because sh*tting on other players is only enjoyable for so long. Real players seek challenge to enjoy themselves. Y'all want your egos to be gratified and to sit almighty at the top of the mountain, but you'll find that it's very lonely up there when you've alienated yourselves from the rest of the player base.
spawn camping always been "low". If you cant allow your opponent to get up and get their footing without killing them again says more about you than it does about them.(and it aint good)
spawn camping is allowed. but i would like to know how your 5man 2healer group would last against the other 20 if u DIDENT spawn camp. Dont get me wrong. Ive watched the videos and u guys do know what your doin but show me a video where u really take on the whole other side before gg is hit with the nerf bat
It's not allowed. The DEVS, not mods, don't encourage this behavior. They attempted to fix it many times in regular 5v5 PvP. They finally succeeded in a patch from a little over a week ago:
PvP
Domination: Mount Hotenow and Rivenscar Ruins: Players may no longer target and attack players in spawn points with ranged or teleport attacks. Players in spawn points may not snipe from their perches there, either.
If it's allowed and encouraged, then the devs wouldn't have bothered to patch it so that players can't jump into the enemy's spawn and camp them. They just haven't gotten around to patching GG PvP yet. Spawn camping has always been considered one of the worst types of griefing in video games. Neverwinter is no different.
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notmuchleftMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited July 2013
I don't care about either side of the argument, but everyone get one thing clear:
Spawn camping is NOT allowed, it is TOLERATED due to having no better alternative. There is a BIG difference.
Now please continue...
Only two things in this life are infinite. The universe and human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the former. ~ Albert Einstein
As much as i think they have some good players frankly they just seem like jerk offs.
Spawn camping is a low act.
They dont have enough respect for their competition or themselves to act in reasonable manner. They exult in stomping PUG players into the ground. They have accused by many of exploiting.
They are the Lance Armstrong of Neverwinter. Cheating brings a hollow victory.
They are the Lance Armstrong of Neverwinter. Cheating brings a hollow victory.
Not even in the same league. At least Lance -- despite whatever unfair edge he may have given himself -- had to get out an pedal his legs off for his hollow victories. All these keyboard warriors gotta do is push some buttons while they sit there and chortle with each other. You give them far too much credit.
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jihancritiasMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
spawn camping always been "low". If you cant allow your opponent to get up and get their footing without killing them again says more about you than it does about them.(and it aint good)
This self-proclaimed "best on shard" guild is a joke. That's the way it sounds to me, after reading all of these laughable boasts. Number one on a game that is a couple months old, with a stupid amount of bugs, exploits, invulnerable players, bought enchants that stack for some dumb reason, etc.? C'mon. You can't be that naive to think you are actually accomplishing anything.
Oh yeah, spawn camping is weak. The few times I've pvped in this tired game, when the other team gave up and stayed at spawn, I'd go up and run around and dance. They might kill me, but I'm not making their pvp experience worse, so they don't play again.
This self-proclaimed "best on shard" guild is a joke. That's the way it sounds to me, after reading all of these laughable boasts. Number one on a game that is a couple months old, with a stupid amount of bugs, exploits, invulnerable players, bought enchants that stack for some dumb reason, etc.? C'mon. You can't be that naive to think you are actually accomplishing anything.
Oh yeah, spawn camping is weak. The few times I've pvped in this tired game, when the other team gave up and stayed at spawn, I'd go up and run around and dance. They might kill me, but I'm not making their pvp experience worse, so they don't play again.
Bragging about their premades with fully exploited and/or P2W gear, along with broken OP specs such as Sentinel GWF and perma-knockback GFs, being able to stomp random n00bs in PvP, is like a state champion varsity high school football team crushing middle school football players. It's both hilarious and sad that they're actually proud of themselves being able to spawn camp random players in this game's imbalanced, joke of a PvP mode. They probably spawn camp, grief randies, and mock them in Zone chat to make themselves feel better about their real lives sucking so much.
It's not allowed. The DEVS, not mods, don't encourage this behavior. They attempted to fix it many times in regular 5v5 PvP. They finally succeeded in a patch from a little over a week ago:
That solution failed, spawn camping is still possible in domination.
IMO the devs are pretty cool for looking to find a solution to this, but they are trying to cure the symptoms not the disease. Either ban the players spawn camping, or if it isn't too hard to code, just make their toons instantly die when they go in the enemies spawn area.
It is exactly like glitching a boss into a corner where they can't fight back in PVE.Game was not designed for players to figure out ways to spawn points where unsuspecting players had just died..not even cast shields and were being fed into one spot.
Bragging about their premades with fully exploited and/or P2W gear, along with broken OP specs such as Sentinel GWF and perma-knockback GFs, being able to stomp random n00bs in PvP, is like a state champion varsity high school football team crushing middle school football players.
Popping stacks of rejuv pots that have no CD in PvP, Blue Healing stones in the 3rd pot tab, etc, etc, etc.
The first time I saw the spawn area in GG PvP it was plainly obvious that the graveyard platform is way to low and easy to get to for the opposing team , just glad I have never experienced being spawn camped yet...
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Spawn camping is allowed.
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This actually isn't true. They attempted to fix it but they failed. You can still easily spawn camp on both PvP maps and you can also easily spawn camp on GG.
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Is this behavior condoned? Is it really possible that the game was designed so poorly that it allows <edit> to play Gauntlgyrm pvp? I am literally shocked. Maybe I was wrong about this game.
This should be the way the OP should have phrased it.
I believe you mean: This is just plain embarassing, and i think the title of the post should be "<redacted> are allowed in Gauntlgrym PVP?".
why do people keep impersonating me??
Dragon Guild
The main thing to note about this point is that it was made as a response to the spawn camping that occured in normal PvP. I have no problem with that spawn camping, because like the admin said, the other team has clearly lost if they are being spawn camped. This is not the case with Gauntlgrym. With Gauntlgrym spawn camping, you give the other team no chance because your whole guild has prepared to spawn camp, you all queue together to make sure that you have an advantage over the other team. You guys even follow a timer to CC everything that spawns. The other team can't be prepared for it, unless it's another huge guild which decides to do the same thing.
Simply put, the difference between the two instances is that in the first one you won legit and spawn camped as a result, but in the latter one you simply rush for it as a strategy and abuse the fact that you have a big team who don't mind going for an unfair advantage, which prevents others to play the game. You guys do it because you are 1) classless and 2) more focused on grinding coins than caring about other people's experiences in the game.
I sincerely hope that because of your childish and abusive behavior you get exactly what you deserve: no respect, and no PvP premade action which could give you a challenge. This means you are guaranteed to get bored of the content, because sh*tting on other players is only enjoyable for so long. Real players seek challenge to enjoy themselves. Y'all want your egos to be gratified and to sit almighty at the top of the mountain, but you'll find that it's very lonely up there when you've alienated yourselves from the rest of the player base.
So the Forum Mods now determine what is allowed in game? Interesting...
So they tried to fix it, they tried and then oh well we tried. Then they said to the mods say its allowed
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/sho...3-20130529g-25
PvP
Domination: Mount Hotenow and Rivenscar Ruins: Players may no longer target and attack players in spawn points with ranged or teleport attacks. Players in spawn points may not snipe from their perches there, either.
If it's allowed and encouraged, then the devs wouldn't have bothered to patch it so that players can't jump into the enemy's spawn and camp them. They just haven't gotten around to patching GG PvP yet. Spawn camping has always been considered one of the worst types of griefing in video games. Neverwinter is no different.
Spawn camping is NOT allowed, it is TOLERATED due to having no better alternative. There is a BIG difference.
Now please continue...
Spawn camping is a low act.
They dont have enough respect for their competition or themselves to act in reasonable manner. They exult in stomping PUG players into the ground. They have accused by many of exploiting.
They are the Lance Armstrong of Neverwinter. Cheating brings a hollow victory.
Not even in the same league. At least Lance -- despite whatever unfair edge he may have given himself -- had to get out an pedal his legs off for his hollow victories. All these keyboard warriors gotta do is push some buttons while they sit there and chortle with each other. You give them far too much credit.
This self-proclaimed "best on shard" guild is a joke. That's the way it sounds to me, after reading all of these laughable boasts. Number one on a game that is a couple months old, with a stupid amount of bugs, exploits, invulnerable players, bought enchants that stack for some dumb reason, etc.? C'mon. You can't be that naive to think you are actually accomplishing anything.
Oh yeah, spawn camping is weak. The few times I've pvped in this tired game, when the other team gave up and stayed at spawn, I'd go up and run around and dance. They might kill me, but I'm not making their pvp experience worse, so they don't play again.
Bragging about their premades with fully exploited and/or P2W gear, along with broken OP specs such as Sentinel GWF and perma-knockback GFs, being able to stomp random n00bs in PvP, is like a state champion varsity high school football team crushing middle school football players. It's both hilarious and sad that they're actually proud of themselves being able to spawn camp random players in this game's imbalanced, joke of a PvP mode. They probably spawn camp, grief randies, and mock them in Zone chat to make themselves feel better about their real lives sucking so much.
That solution failed, spawn camping is still possible in domination.
IMO the devs are pretty cool for looking to find a solution to this, but they are trying to cure the symptoms not the disease. Either ban the players spawn camping, or if it isn't too hard to code, just make their toons instantly die when they go in the enemies spawn area.
Popping stacks of rejuv pots that have no CD in PvP, Blue Healing stones in the 3rd pot tab, etc, etc, etc.
LEETNESS....Lulz.