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Guardian Fighters are way to OP right now
routa1337
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Well Cryptic uve done a great job giving them great threat control but u failed on one thing. That is they become extremely more powerful after patch and pre-patch they were awesome in pvp with stalwart set. So do me a favor nerf their Rogue like dmg because they do annoying alot of damage and they can block any of ours power moves which other classes cant.
Wat they have right now:
Mobility
Survibility
Rogue-like-godlike-damage
Currently the best pvp class
They are a tank class and shouldn't be able to do this
Wat they have right now:
Mobility
Survibility
Rogue-like-godlike-damage
Currently the best pvp class
They are a tank class and shouldn't be able to do this
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No they are not...
I'm personally not asking for "rebalance" because that almost ways just ****s something up.
- JailBreak (in development)
Errrm well your not agreeing with him then as hes talking about GF not GWF..
Again.. no to more 'balance' crying
Seze - Rogue - Necropolis -
rofl. U dont play a GF ? My friend have one, with T2 set and he has 6k power - WITH TANK SET, rofl. Hes tried T1 set for DMG and got with stacked second set bonus over 12k power. rofl. GF are OP. They need little balance for PvP and PvE.
Going fishing, are you?
NERF IT NAO!
TRs were "OP". Veredict: NERFED!
CWs were "OP". Veredict: NERFED!
Now beware GFs cuz the whiners have a new target for the nerf bat!
Srsly... The L2P crowd seems to be strong around here. Ppl cant manage their own classes, so who to blame? The dude who outclassed em, thus making EVERY SINGLE class (except the one of the whiner) OP. GEEZ!
GFs have always been OP in PvP... if the player is competent and has great gear and the right spec. They need Timeless Hero (Stalwart Bulwark works too, but Timeless is much better for PvP) 4 piece, Tenebrous enchants, and spec into Conqueror tree. They'll block all of your main attacks, then use Frontline Surge into Bullrush into Knight's Challenge and basically 3-shot you while you're knocked back and on the ground.
That's just the offensive GF. Defensive GFs can turtle up and hold a point against up to 4 people solo. A good defensive GF is a nightmare to deal with, especially if you don't have a good CW on your team that can counter their turtling tactics. If the defensive GF has any help from teammates, especially a Cleric to heal him, it's basically impossible to kill them.
Yeah ive adapted with the situation BUT IT still doesn't give them the right to have a tank class that has more damage sustained in pve/pvp then PURE DAMAGE Classes. Are you that ****ing stupid to realise that?
Other classes have similar strengths that might make them seem OP but they are not, all have weaknesses.
1. GWF - Think it is the unstoppable move or whatever where they heal from near death and beat the <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> out of you.
2. GF - as mentioned the stun locking + great defense
3. CW - Stun locking + extra range vs. melee can be brutal sometimes
4. TR - Can 1 shot you anywhere anytime.
Level 60 PvP is broken because players are able to do so much damage that responding in any meaningful way is impossible. PvP was way more enjoyable levels 1-59...
SOOOOOOOO..... be the one doing the damage. problem solved. someones kicking your butt....so why not be that someone kicking butt instead of being the one QQing screaming about foul play. i liken this thread to the kid at the play ground who crys when he dosnt win. come on.
they don't you tard... I'm 15k in timeless with full rank 7's and nearly full offense. A rogue can still 2 shot me even with my shield up. I takes me at least 4 good encounter powers to get a kill. In fact every class with exception of cleric has a better defensive ability for pvp than GF's do.
1. GWF - Unstoppable doesn't heal GWFs. You can put 5 points into a Feat that will give them 5% of their maximum HP as temp. HP when they pop Unstoppable. Their heal Encounter is called Restoring Strike. Yes, a well-played, well-geared GWF can be a beast in PvP. They can't be CC'd, they'll knock you down constantly, and you can't run away from them because they have Sprint. You basically have to kill them before they kill you and make sure you don't get caught by their knockdowns.
2. GFs don't stunlock. They knock you back and down constantly and 3-shot you.
3. CWs choke you with Entangling Force, Enfeeble you, Ice Knife you. If you're still alive, they'll just choke you again and just Magic Missle you to death. All from RANGE. Ranged 3-shot GG. Oh yeah, and they have 3 dodges / teleports while other classes (that can dodge) only have 2.
4. TRs can't 1-shot anyone. Not pre-nerf, not post-nerf. They can 2 or 3-shot people though... from stealth. They can also break out of and/or become invulnerable to any CC and take 75% less damage for about 4 seconds with Impossible to Catch. However, Rogues are squishy so if they get caught, they're usually dead within seconds.
Heaven forbid the flavor of the month class you were playing can't run around owning anymore.
You are COMPLETELY full of sh*t! Or you have no clue what you are talking about, period!
GFs, GWFs, and CWs were OP BEFORE the so called balance patch. Now they are even MORE OP'd! And there is NO Rogue that can 2 shot a GF through block/shield. That is total BS. The ONLY way a Rogue can 2-3 shot anyone(besides a blocking GF) is from stealth, period!!
Holy hell, people are such liars FFS! Learn to try and be honest, maybe even just a little bit?
All classes should be capable of doing damage in pvp. It's the only thing to do in pvp.
Wow look...DC is not on your list...huh...well good thing I chose DC as my main.
- JailBreak (in development)
This ^^ Exactly true.