Hi all,
I was just happily trading keys for gold a few minutes ago and got scammed for the first time by a "certain player."
He was doing some sort of weird thing where when you click accept, nothing happens- it usually says "you accept" or something, but in this case it didn't. He would "click accept" as well and the money would leave and the trade finished. Obviously, he was doing something dodgy as I would still have my key and he would still have my money. He was pretty convincing with it, but then he asked me to click accept first, so I did. But then I lagged out for a second or so, he took his money out AFTER i had clicked accept and he ran off, ignoring me straight after. Of course, I followed him around after preventing him from doing around 4 further trades in which he would again scam someone and I told a few traders I knew to ignore him.
From the responses, it looks like we are completely powerless in doing anything against these people, so I want to offer some friendly advice to anyone who finds themselves in a situation like mine. If you are trading with someone, and it takes longer than usual, or you think they are doing something dodgy, say something on zone chat or at least keep an eye on what people are saying (apparently someone else was already trying to warn others but I didn't see his message) there!
Happy playing
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There could be any number of people using the same character name and without their @handle you're basically bashing them all at once.
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It could be worse. In zone chat, we was giving out the scammers phone number (or at least what he claimed was the guy's phone number).
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Especially with anyone you don;t intimately know very well.
Just my own too sense, your own mileage may vary.
Rule#2: if you even think something is off, immediately cancel the trade
The trade system on MMOs is set up so that you really have to go out of your way to be a victim. Whether it's being too trusting or just not paying attention.
The trade box is way safer that in game email, where you have to trust that the person will send you payment. The trade box is perfectly safe if you don't let your guard down. Just treat all people you trade with as if they might be scammers and you'll never get scammed.
Just be careful, and if you are the seller dont accept first.
that is what I usually do, except in this case, there really was something weird happening with the trade box itself. He would click accept and so would I, but the box would not say "you accept" for me. The box usually goes green then says "you accept" except in this case, only the outlining box around the items you put in went green. Also, he clicked accept and so did I- it said he accepted the trade- then AFTER i clicked accept, I lagged excessively and he somehow took back his money and the key. To be honest, I'm glad it was only 1 key that got scammed off me since I haven't actually put any funds into this game, my main concern is that this person has found a way to make off with both parties items in the trade.
Pretty much this. Hit cancel, put them on your ignore list, Press H, go to Request GM Help, and Report Behavior.
That's pretty funny. So the logical conclusion of this would be two players that want to trade set it up in the trade window, then neither one will click accept first.
You know, I bet that's what all the companions in PE are doing.
Unless there is an actual exploit, its kind of like street magic. They make you think you lagged but actually used a program or macro keyboard or something to swap the items or remove the items before accept, and the victim ends up hitting accept twice (thinking it lagged) then realizes he got taken..... Sometimes they swap in a similar icon but junk item. Sometimes they remove it entirely.
It would be good to know if there is an exploit or not, but until then, I have to guess its just the classic swindle and the answer is "never hit accept twice, close the window and start over every time it seems to act odd". And the captain obvious: anyone that insists you hit accept before them is up to something.
I wish I had no life.
I hope this players account will get banned forever... and all accounts that he sent mail to that are recorded at the same IP.
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?306422-Reporting-Exploits-The-Right-Way&highlight=report+exploits
TO CONTACT AN IN-GAME GM:
To alert the Cryptic team of a cheater or an exploiter, press H key or the ? on the menu bar to contact a GM. Then press the BEHAVIOR button.
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