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grzmot33kgrzmot33k Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Auction Items exired as intended? Thanks for ripping my 1kk AD for no reason. Seems like some ppl don't have a skills to privide good solution for opening AH againg...

500k worth item sold for 9k? You kidding me.

GZ for ppl who bidded a lot, you are rich now.

PWE, gz yet again, awesome solutions from awesome company (ha...ha...ha).
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  • sinfulswesinfulswe Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    +1, you're a ****ing joke PWE, how the hell can you handle an issue this poorly?!

    Thanks for ****ing over those enjoying you're game, mission accomplished.
  • mmogfailsmmogfails Member Posts: 92
    edited May 2013
    That's not good...
  • nullwolf1nullwolf1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    grzmot33k wrote: »

    500k worth item sold for 9k? You kidding me.

    ^ regarding this bit here... you really shouldn't list something for a starting bid you aren't ok with getting...
  • kilo418kilo418 Member Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Place an opening bid at a price you are ok with getting. Problem solved
  • eggylisk99eggylisk99 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    nullwolf1 wrote: »
    ^ regarding this bit here... you really shouldn't list something for a starting bid you aren't ok with getting...

    That's not really the point. It's not his fault either. That complaint is pretty valid.
  • danxbxdanxbx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    grzmot33k wrote: »
    Auction Items exired as intended? Thanks for ripping my 1kk AD for no reason. Seems like some ppl don't have a skills to privide good solution for opening AH againg...

    500k worth item sold for 9k? You kidding me.

    GZ for ppl who bidded a lot, you are rich now.

    PWE, gz yet again, awesome solutions from awesome company (ha...ha...ha).

    You set the minimum bid right?
  • grzmot33kgrzmot33k Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    nullwolf1 wrote: »
    ^ regarding this bit here... you really shouldn't list something for a starting bid you aren't ok with getting...

    I put item on AH for LOOOOONG 5 DAYS, i got a LOT of time to take it back if bid isn't what i wanted. And i always do it like this

    - Min bid - 1AD, why more? i dont want waste cash for it.

    The point is, When AH was turned off my items could be bidded for 1 more day, and i thought it would be still 1 day after they open AH again. But nope, It seems like AH was closed, but auctions were going on as if AH was working
  • aeftaeaeftae Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Because players clearly expected a hugely game breaking bug to take the auction house down for days on end, and the auctions on the AH weren't frozen too, they all continued to tick.

    Myopic fanboys at their finest. Cryptic ****ed it up here and the players pay (yet again), how there are players who can remain deluded and protect these incompetent failings over and over is beyond me.
  • mmogfailsmmogfails Member Posts: 92
    edited May 2013
    aeftae wrote: »
    Because players clearly expected a hugely game breaking bug to take the auction house down for days on end, and the auctions on the AH weren't frozen too, they all continued to tick.

    Myopic fanboys at their finest. Cryptic ****ed it up here and the players pay (yet again), how there are players who can remain deluded and protect these incompetent failings over and over is beyond me.

    We get used to familiar behavioral patterns. If everywhere we see fail, at some point we perceive it as the norm.
  • wednesdaywoe13wednesdaywoe13 Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    grzmot33k wrote: »
    I put item on AH for LOOOOONG 5 DAYS, i got a LOT of time to take it back if bid isn't what i wanted. And i always do it like this

    Doesn't matter "how you always do it". That's now how auctions are intended to work.

    You set a price lower than what you were willing to accept, with the assumption that it would always work out for you.

    You assumed wrong and got burned.

    Own it.
  • labbblabbb Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Ok let me explain this , you CANNOT cancel an auction once someone bids . And cannot bid on your own auction . So without cheating , how were you going to cancel your auction if the bid was to low ?
  • kilo418kilo418 Member Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    aeftae wrote: »
    Because players clearly expected a hugely game breaking bug to take the auction house down for days on end, and the auctions on the AH weren't frozen too, they all continued to tick.

    Myopic fanboys at their finest. Cryptic ****ed it up here and the players pay (yet again), how there are players who can remain deluded and protect these incompetent failings over and over is beyond me.

    How players set a price then blame others for getting something withing that price range is beyond me.
  • snugglemancersnugglemancer Member Posts: 105 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    nullwolf1 wrote: »
    ^ regarding this bit here... you really shouldn't list something for a starting bid you aren't ok with getting...

    Yep, to do so otherwise is a calculated risk, but hey at least the OP saved AD on plenty of posting fees. If he keeps doing that I'm sure he'll recoup his losses.
  • sasheriasasheria Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    While it sucks that you didn't put in minimum bid. The min bid usually mean "what I am willing to accept as minimum AD" If you put as 1, that is your own fault.

    Now it is also PWE fault for not STOPPING the clock on AH while it is down.
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  • pzzdachupzzdachu Member Posts: 398 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    If I have read this thread right...
    The OP put an item up for Auction.
    The OP did not set a Minimum bid at an acceptable level.
    Someone bought the OPs item at a very low price.
    The OP is mad cause someone exploited his mistake.

    Did I miss anything?
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  • fhurion1fhurion1 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    You have nothing to really complain about, other than the fact that you put something up on the AH at a price you had no intention of letting it sell for in normal conditions. An MMO has so many things that can influence your ability to play at all, let alone optimally, that whining about unforseen circumstances ruining your ability to "gain phat lewts" makes you look like a spoiled brat.
    Set your minimum bids at a price you are comfortable with. It's not anyone's fault but your own.
  • labbblabbb Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    pzzdachu wrote: »
    If I have read this thread right...
    The OP put an item up for Auction.
    The OP did not set a Minimum bid at an acceptable level.
    Someone bought the OPs item at a very low price.
    The OP is mad cause someone exploited his mistake.

    Did I miss anything?

    Yes , you missed the part where he was planning on canceling the auction if the bid was to low at the 4 day mark . Which makes no sense because you can't if someone has bid . because his low value items got no bids and he could cancel them , he assumed he could do this with a high value item . Which because of his lack of knowledge on how the auction house works , he is mad at PW .
  • danxbxdanxbx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    grzmot33k wrote: »
    I put item on AH for LOOOOONG 5 DAYS, i got a LOT of time to take it back if bid isn't what i wanted. And i always do it like this

    - Min bid - 1AD, why more? i dont want waste cash for it.

    The point is, When AH was turned off my items could be bidded for 1 more day, and i thought it would be still 1 day after they open AH again. But nope, It seems like AH was closed, but auctions were going on as if AH was working

    There should be a penalty for doing that.
  • mmogfailsmmogfails Member Posts: 92
    edited May 2013
    OP you should have set the duration of the auction to long. That was your fault.

    Ohh, wait you did...

    Maybe you should have predicted that in this exploit infested open beta the AH would be down for 4 days and act accordingly.

    But you didn't! It's you fault!
  • grzmot33kgrzmot33k Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    If I have read this thread right...
    The OP put an item up for Auction.
    The OP did not set a Minimum bid at an acceptable level.
    Someone bought the OPs item at a very low price.
    The OP is mad cause someone exploited his mistake.

    Did I miss anything?

    Y, missed the point of this threat

    1 Day of bidding didn't existed. Due to AH turned off. Is it only me, or everyone would bid on item in last few hours of bidding? It's normal to bid when auction is almost finished. Those items that time finished when AH was down, had no chance to getting more bids

    @edit: well, always had in mind cancelling b4 it would be sold for low price, never did it because it was always bought OUT by B/o Price.
    Didn't know you cant cancel.

    Still, the point of this threat remains the same. Auctions finished but they shouldnt, since AH was frozen, time should be too.
  • nullwolf1nullwolf1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    grzmot33k wrote: »
    Is it only me, or everyone would bid on item in last few hours of bidding? It's normal to bid when auction is almost finished.

    If the starting bid is LOW, I'd bid when I see it, regardless of time left... So no, not everyone bids on the last minute deals.
  • kilo418kilo418 Member Posts: 823 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    grzmot33k wrote: »
    Y, missed the point of this threat

    1 Day of bidding didn't existed. Due to AH turned off. Is it only me, or everyone would bid on item in last few hours of bidding? It's normal to bid when auction is almost finished. Those items that time finished when AH was down, had no chance to getting more bids

    Then set a minimum bid at an acceptable price and stop circumventing the AH Mechanics
  • danxbxdanxbx Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    labbb wrote: »
    Ok let me explain this , you CANNOT cancel an auction once someone bids . And cannot bid on your own auction . So without cheating , how were you going to cancel your auction if the bid was to low ?

    What probably was happening is that he planned on pushing the price up with an alt and didn't have that opportunity. I really doubt he was going to cancel it.
  • iamdoctordeathiamdoctordeath Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Look at those fanbois at work. OP put something down at a low starting bid because he figured a 5 day auction would have 5 days- alot of people tend to do that.

    Cryptic took the AH down for several days.

    Now, any company that wasn't completely <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> would have halted the AH clock while they had the AH down, since nobody could access their bids or items.

    Naturally, we're dealing with Cryptic- so what we instead got is- everyone who bidded low on items before this happened got items worth up to a million AD for as little as a couple thousand- and several people lost 5, 10, 20 dollars worth of AD entirely due to Cryptic's exploits, and Cryptic not either pausing the clock, or even just sending all AD bid and items on the AH back to people's mailboxes.


    Just wait- as more people realize they were cheated out of hard earned cash by Cryptic, there's going to be a lot of angry people- and justifiably so. Cryptic just keeps <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> legit players, and handing more and more of the economy into the hands of the exploiters, ninjas and farmers.
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  • sasheriasasheria Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    grzmot33k wrote: »
    Y, missed the point of this threat

    1 Day of bidding didn't existed. Due to AH turned off. Is it only me, or everyone would bid on item in last few hours of bidding? It's normal to bid when auction is almost finished. Those items that time finished when AH was down, had no chance to getting more bids

    Not really. With the recent flood of epic BEFORE the AH lockdown, there are lot of items out there. Sorting/search function is poor. It is highly probable that your item may get overlook and someone COULD get it cheap by pure luck (same with ebay)

    Sure AH has a smaller stock than ebay, but you are taking a chance with small AD to "entice" customer to bid. In ebay, it lower the starting cost of putting an item on the market.
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  • edgenwedgenw Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 124 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    eggylisk99 wrote: »
    That's not really the point. It's not his fault either. That complaint is pretty valid.

    That absolutely is the point. It's called a "minimum bid" for a reason. It's the minimum amount you're willing to settle on. The amount that will leave you feeling like you still came out ahead on your sale. Everything above that is just gravy. That's the number you set the minimum at and not a penny less. If you do, that's on you.

    If people actually did this, threads like this wouldn't exist. It doesn't matter if the auction house went offline and the clock kept running (which I'm pretty sure happens in every MMO I've ever played), or if there was just an unsurprising lack of interest in the product. Use the minimum price correctly (rather than as a sneaky way to save on listing fees) and you won't have this problem.
  • mkesdmkesd Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    pzzdachu wrote: »
    If I have read this thread right...
    The OP put an item up for Auction.
    The OP did not set a Minimum bid at an acceptable level.
    Someone bought the OPs item at a very low price.
    The OP is mad cause someone exploited his mistake.

    Did I miss anything?

    All your statements seem logical to me.

    The only thing I don't understand, how can someone do something so obviously wrong, and then complain about the lucky and legitimate buyer.
  • iamdoctordeathiamdoctordeath Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sasheria wrote: »
    Not really. With the recent flood of epic BEFORE the AH lockdown, there are lot of items out there. Sorting/search function is poor. It is highly probable that your item may get overlook and someone COULD get it cheap by pure luck (same with ebay)

    Sure AH has a smaller stock than ebay, but you are taking a chance with small AD to "entice" customer to bid. In ebay, it lower the starting cost of putting an item on the market.

    And that's a legitimate risk to take. Being able to predict an exploit taking out the AH for a week though is not something anyone can legimately predict- and moreso, knowing that Cryptic would do so, and then say 'btw, auction users, go **** yourselves, a bunch of you just lost millions of AD you earned without cheating, eat a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>'.
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  • kattefjaeskattefjaes Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,270 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    This is the same rant that that slimy maxipad (or something) guy had, right? The starting bid is there for a reason, but not using it, you're running a risk voluntarily. You're betting that saving AH fee will be worth the risk of not being able to get to the AH due to being eaten by a grue, or massive Cryptic fail (etc.). Given how often there has been massive Cryptic fail of late, you're a brave man, or maybe one who doesn't understand odds.
  • sasheriasasheria Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    danxbx wrote: »
    What probably was happening is that he planned on pushing the price up with an alt and didn't have that opportunity. I really doubt he was going to cancel it.

    Heh. in Ebay, that is consider underhanded and bannable ;)
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