Auction Items exired as intended? Thanks for ripping my 1kk AD for no reason. Seems like some ppl don't have a skills to privide good solution for opening AH againg...
500k worth item sold for 9k? You kidding me.
GZ for ppl who bidded a lot, you are rich now.
PWE, gz yet again, awesome solutions from awesome company (ha...ha...ha).
Auction Items exired as intended? Thanks for ripping my 1kk AD for no reason. Seems like some ppl don't have a skills to privide good solution for opening AH againg...
500k worth item sold for 9k? You kidding me.
GZ for ppl who bidded a lot, you are rich now.
PWE, gz yet again, awesome solutions from awesome company (ha...ha...ha).
You set the minimum bid right?
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grzmot33kMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
^ regarding this bit here... you really shouldn't list something for a starting bid you aren't ok with getting...
I put item on AH for LOOOOONG 5 DAYS, i got a LOT of time to take it back if bid isn't what i wanted. And i always do it like this
- Min bid - 1AD, why more? i dont want waste cash for it.
The point is, When AH was turned off my items could be bidded for 1 more day, and i thought it would be still 1 day after they open AH again. But nope, It seems like AH was closed, but auctions were going on as if AH was working
Because players clearly expected a hugely game breaking bug to take the auction house down for days on end, and the auctions on the AH weren't frozen too, they all continued to tick.
Myopic fanboys at their finest. Cryptic ****ed it up here and the players pay (yet again), how there are players who can remain deluded and protect these incompetent failings over and over is beyond me.
Because players clearly expected a hugely game breaking bug to take the auction house down for days on end, and the auctions on the AH weren't frozen too, they all continued to tick.
Myopic fanboys at their finest. Cryptic ****ed it up here and the players pay (yet again), how there are players who can remain deluded and protect these incompetent failings over and over is beyond me.
We get used to familiar behavioral patterns. If everywhere we see fail, at some point we perceive it as the norm.
Ok let me explain this , you CANNOT cancel an auction once someone bids . And cannot bid on your own auction . So without cheating , how were you going to cancel your auction if the bid was to low ?
Because players clearly expected a hugely game breaking bug to take the auction house down for days on end, and the auctions on the AH weren't frozen too, they all continued to tick.
Myopic fanboys at their finest. Cryptic ****ed it up here and the players pay (yet again), how there are players who can remain deluded and protect these incompetent failings over and over is beyond me.
How players set a price then blame others for getting something withing that price range is beyond me.
^ regarding this bit here... you really shouldn't list something for a starting bid you aren't ok with getting...
Yep, to do so otherwise is a calculated risk, but hey at least the OP saved AD on plenty of posting fees. If he keeps doing that I'm sure he'll recoup his losses.
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sasheriaMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 1Arc User
edited May 2013
While it sucks that you didn't put in minimum bid. The min bid usually mean "what I am willing to accept as minimum AD" If you put as 1, that is your own fault.
Now it is also PWE fault for not STOPPING the clock on AH while it is down.
If I have read this thread right...
The OP put an item up for Auction.
The OP did not set a Minimum bid at an acceptable level.
Someone bought the OPs item at a very low price.
The OP is mad cause someone exploited his mistake.
You have nothing to really complain about, other than the fact that you put something up on the AH at a price you had no intention of letting it sell for in normal conditions. An MMO has so many things that can influence your ability to play at all, let alone optimally, that whining about unforseen circumstances ruining your ability to "gain phat lewts" makes you look like a spoiled brat.
Set your minimum bids at a price you are comfortable with. It's not anyone's fault but your own.
If I have read this thread right...
The OP put an item up for Auction.
The OP did not set a Minimum bid at an acceptable level.
Someone bought the OPs item at a very low price.
The OP is mad cause someone exploited his mistake.
Did I miss anything?
Yes , you missed the part where he was planning on canceling the auction if the bid was to low at the 4 day mark . Which makes no sense because you can't if someone has bid . because his low value items got no bids and he could cancel them , he assumed he could do this with a high value item . Which because of his lack of knowledge on how the auction house works , he is mad at PW .
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danxbxMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
I put item on AH for LOOOOONG 5 DAYS, i got a LOT of time to take it back if bid isn't what i wanted. And i always do it like this
- Min bid - 1AD, why more? i dont want waste cash for it.
The point is, When AH was turned off my items could be bidded for 1 more day, and i thought it would be still 1 day after they open AH again. But nope, It seems like AH was closed, but auctions were going on as if AH was working
OP you should have set the duration of the auction to long. That was your fault.
Ohh, wait you did...
Maybe you should have predicted that in this exploit infested open beta the AH would be down for 4 days and act accordingly.
But you didn't! It's you fault!
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grzmot33kMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
If I have read this thread right...
The OP put an item up for Auction.
The OP did not set a Minimum bid at an acceptable level.
Someone bought the OPs item at a very low price.
The OP is mad cause someone exploited his mistake.
Did I miss anything?
Y, missed the point of this threat
1 Day of bidding didn't existed. Due to AH turned off. Is it only me, or everyone would bid on item in last few hours of bidding? It's normal to bid when auction is almost finished. Those items that time finished when AH was down, had no chance to getting more bids
@edit: well, always had in mind cancelling b4 it would be sold for low price, never did it because it was always bought OUT by B/o Price.
Didn't know you cant cancel.
Still, the point of this threat remains the same. Auctions finished but they shouldnt, since AH was frozen, time should be too.
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nullwolf1Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
1 Day of bidding didn't existed. Due to AH turned off. Is it only me, or everyone would bid on item in last few hours of bidding? It's normal to bid when auction is almost finished. Those items that time finished when AH was down, had no chance to getting more bids
Then set a minimum bid at an acceptable price and stop circumventing the AH Mechanics
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danxbxMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Ok let me explain this , you CANNOT cancel an auction once someone bids . And cannot bid on your own auction . So without cheating , how were you going to cancel your auction if the bid was to low ?
What probably was happening is that he planned on pushing the price up with an alt and didn't have that opportunity. I really doubt he was going to cancel it.
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iamdoctordeathMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
Look at those fanbois at work. OP put something down at a low starting bid because he figured a 5 day auction would have 5 days- alot of people tend to do that.
Cryptic took the AH down for several days.
Now, any company that wasn't completely <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> would have halted the AH clock while they had the AH down, since nobody could access their bids or items.
Naturally, we're dealing with Cryptic- so what we instead got is- everyone who bidded low on items before this happened got items worth up to a million AD for as little as a couple thousand- and several people lost 5, 10, 20 dollars worth of AD entirely due to Cryptic's exploits, and Cryptic not either pausing the clock, or even just sending all AD bid and items on the AH back to people's mailboxes.
Just wait- as more people realize they were cheated out of hard earned cash by Cryptic, there's going to be a lot of angry people- and justifiably so. Cryptic just keeps <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> legit players, and handing more and more of the economy into the hands of the exploiters, ninjas and farmers.
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sasheriaMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 1Arc User
1 Day of bidding didn't existed. Due to AH turned off. Is it only me, or everyone would bid on item in last few hours of bidding? It's normal to bid when auction is almost finished. Those items that time finished when AH was down, had no chance to getting more bids
Not really. With the recent flood of epic BEFORE the AH lockdown, there are lot of items out there. Sorting/search function is poor. It is highly probable that your item may get overlook and someone COULD get it cheap by pure luck (same with ebay)
Sure AH has a smaller stock than ebay, but you are taking a chance with small AD to "entice" customer to bid. In ebay, it lower the starting cost of putting an item on the market.
That's not really the point. It's not his fault either. That complaint is pretty valid.
That absolutely is the point. It's called a "minimum bid" for a reason. It's the minimum amount you're willing to settle on. The amount that will leave you feeling like you still came out ahead on your sale. Everything above that is just gravy. That's the number you set the minimum at and not a penny less. If you do, that's on you.
If people actually did this, threads like this wouldn't exist. It doesn't matter if the auction house went offline and the clock kept running (which I'm pretty sure happens in every MMO I've ever played), or if there was just an unsurprising lack of interest in the product. Use the minimum price correctly (rather than as a sneaky way to save on listing fees) and you won't have this problem.
If I have read this thread right...
The OP put an item up for Auction.
The OP did not set a Minimum bid at an acceptable level.
Someone bought the OPs item at a very low price.
The OP is mad cause someone exploited his mistake.
Did I miss anything?
All your statements seem logical to me.
The only thing I don't understand, how can someone do something so obviously wrong, and then complain about the lucky and legitimate buyer.
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iamdoctordeathMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Not really. With the recent flood of epic BEFORE the AH lockdown, there are lot of items out there. Sorting/search function is poor. It is highly probable that your item may get overlook and someone COULD get it cheap by pure luck (same with ebay)
Sure AH has a smaller stock than ebay, but you are taking a chance with small AD to "entice" customer to bid. In ebay, it lower the starting cost of putting an item on the market.
And that's a legitimate risk to take. Being able to predict an exploit taking out the AH for a week though is not something anyone can legimately predict- and moreso, knowing that Cryptic would do so, and then say 'btw, auction users, go **** yourselves, a bunch of you just lost millions of AD you earned without cheating, eat a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>'.
This is the same rant that that slimy maxipad (or something) guy had, right? The starting bid is there for a reason, but not using it, you're running a risk voluntarily. You're betting that saving AH fee will be worth the risk of not being able to get to the AH due to being eaten by a grue, or massive Cryptic fail (etc.). Given how often there has been massive Cryptic fail of late, you're a brave man, or maybe one who doesn't understand odds.
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sasheriaMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 1Arc User
What probably was happening is that he planned on pushing the price up with an alt and didn't have that opportunity. I really doubt he was going to cancel it.
Heh. in Ebay, that is consider underhanded and bannable
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^ regarding this bit here... you really shouldn't list something for a starting bid you aren't ok with getting...
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That's not really the point. It's not his fault either. That complaint is pretty valid.
You set the minimum bid right?
I put item on AH for LOOOOONG 5 DAYS, i got a LOT of time to take it back if bid isn't what i wanted. And i always do it like this
- Min bid - 1AD, why more? i dont want waste cash for it.
The point is, When AH was turned off my items could be bidded for 1 more day, and i thought it would be still 1 day after they open AH again. But nope, It seems like AH was closed, but auctions were going on as if AH was working
Myopic fanboys at their finest. Cryptic ****ed it up here and the players pay (yet again), how there are players who can remain deluded and protect these incompetent failings over and over is beyond me.
We get used to familiar behavioral patterns. If everywhere we see fail, at some point we perceive it as the norm.
Doesn't matter "how you always do it". That's now how auctions are intended to work.
You set a price lower than what you were willing to accept, with the assumption that it would always work out for you.
You assumed wrong and got burned.
Own it.
How players set a price then blame others for getting something withing that price range is beyond me.
Yep, to do so otherwise is a calculated risk, but hey at least the OP saved AD on plenty of posting fees. If he keeps doing that I'm sure he'll recoup his losses.
Now it is also PWE fault for not STOPPING the clock on AH while it is down.
Please review my campaign and I'll return the favor.
The OP put an item up for Auction.
The OP did not set a Minimum bid at an acceptable level.
Someone bought the OPs item at a very low price.
The OP is mad cause someone exploited his mistake.
Did I miss anything?
Set your minimum bids at a price you are comfortable with. It's not anyone's fault but your own.
Yes , you missed the part where he was planning on canceling the auction if the bid was to low at the 4 day mark . Which makes no sense because you can't if someone has bid . because his low value items got no bids and he could cancel them , he assumed he could do this with a high value item . Which because of his lack of knowledge on how the auction house works , he is mad at PW .
There should be a penalty for doing that.
Ohh, wait you did...
Maybe you should have predicted that in this exploit infested open beta the AH would be down for 4 days and act accordingly.
But you didn't! It's you fault!
Y, missed the point of this threat
1 Day of bidding didn't existed. Due to AH turned off. Is it only me, or everyone would bid on item in last few hours of bidding? It's normal to bid when auction is almost finished. Those items that time finished when AH was down, had no chance to getting more bids
@edit: well, always had in mind cancelling b4 it would be sold for low price, never did it because it was always bought OUT by B/o Price.
Didn't know you cant cancel.
Still, the point of this threat remains the same. Auctions finished but they shouldnt, since AH was frozen, time should be too.
If the starting bid is LOW, I'd bid when I see it, regardless of time left... So no, not everyone bids on the last minute deals.
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Then set a minimum bid at an acceptable price and stop circumventing the AH Mechanics
What probably was happening is that he planned on pushing the price up with an alt and didn't have that opportunity. I really doubt he was going to cancel it.
Cryptic took the AH down for several days.
Now, any company that wasn't completely <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> would have halted the AH clock while they had the AH down, since nobody could access their bids or items.
Naturally, we're dealing with Cryptic- so what we instead got is- everyone who bidded low on items before this happened got items worth up to a million AD for as little as a couple thousand- and several people lost 5, 10, 20 dollars worth of AD entirely due to Cryptic's exploits, and Cryptic not either pausing the clock, or even just sending all AD bid and items on the AH back to people's mailboxes.
Just wait- as more people realize they were cheated out of hard earned cash by Cryptic, there's going to be a lot of angry people- and justifiably so. Cryptic just keeps <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> legit players, and handing more and more of the economy into the hands of the exploiters, ninjas and farmers.
Not really. With the recent flood of epic BEFORE the AH lockdown, there are lot of items out there. Sorting/search function is poor. It is highly probable that your item may get overlook and someone COULD get it cheap by pure luck (same with ebay)
Sure AH has a smaller stock than ebay, but you are taking a chance with small AD to "entice" customer to bid. In ebay, it lower the starting cost of putting an item on the market.
Please review my campaign and I'll return the favor.
That absolutely is the point. It's called a "minimum bid" for a reason. It's the minimum amount you're willing to settle on. The amount that will leave you feeling like you still came out ahead on your sale. Everything above that is just gravy. That's the number you set the minimum at and not a penny less. If you do, that's on you.
If people actually did this, threads like this wouldn't exist. It doesn't matter if the auction house went offline and the clock kept running (which I'm pretty sure happens in every MMO I've ever played), or if there was just an unsurprising lack of interest in the product. Use the minimum price correctly (rather than as a sneaky way to save on listing fees) and you won't have this problem.
All your statements seem logical to me.
The only thing I don't understand, how can someone do something so obviously wrong, and then complain about the lucky and legitimate buyer.
And that's a legitimate risk to take. Being able to predict an exploit taking out the AH for a week though is not something anyone can legimately predict- and moreso, knowing that Cryptic would do so, and then say 'btw, auction users, go **** yourselves, a bunch of you just lost millions of AD you earned without cheating, eat a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>'.
Heh. in Ebay, that is consider underhanded and bannable
Please review my campaign and I'll return the favor.