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Is there any word on a patch to fix the Cleric's insane agro-building currently?.
As it stands, most clerics don't even slot "soothe" because its useless, and all it takes
is 1 strong healer and we got the entire room chasing us.
As it stands, most clerics don't even slot "soothe" because its useless, and all it takes
is 1 strong healer and we got the entire room chasing us.
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Oh wait... that's what a good company would do.
Womp womp :-\
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This but with more inserted facts here { }
To add a little seriousness to this... I never understood why a game company wouldn't release a list of issues is currently working on, rather than just a list of "fixes" for the most current patch that they claim they resolved.
A sticky listing an official KNOWN issues with a status of each item as "in progress" or "next 30 days" would settle a lot of nerves.
The only exception is the taunt/mark that overrides it but doesn't last long.
you had me hopeful until i read the second line /:
Why do you take 2 Clerics, so 1 Cleric can get a FULL UNPENALIZED HEAL.
We have asked, Cryptic has not answered, however I digress, that your silence tells me your answer. Hey its your game, do what you will with it, but Im not paying to play *****. When I have to buy a health stone because 8.5k Heal Pots dont do the job when you have the whole room murdering you.
Its a shame because I truly love the way the action combat is implemented, other issues aside.
This company needs some serious Customer Service classes on how to approach, handle and deal with issues on a timely basis because they are sorely lacking on these items specifically engaging the community on what might be,will be and what is currently being looked at.
But almost every boss that a 5 man team face repeatedly spawns adds no? That's Cryptic's whole boss mechanic and has been in all games using this engine in the last 5 years.
It's the sum total of their boss encounter mechanic.
2. There are no reliable tanking mechanics for
- snap aggro
- sustained aoe threat.
Clearly, someone is meant to be either kiting huge number of adds or controlling them out of harm. Unfortunately, due to aggro from heals, that means naturally it is the Cleric class....
This is also part of the the reason why GF has little role in the endgame and why much of the time a second Cleric is far more valuable to keep the group alive in more circumstances.
So, yeah, do not expect any single "fix" for Cleric, or indeed any other class in this respect, since that would be inconsistent with the gameplay of the entire game.
Note. The reason why slotting Soothe is pointless is because it deals only with threat reduction. But having any aggro above 0 is what matters, not how much above zero. This is one of the reasons aggro is different from threat.
Just run 2 clerics like everyone else , even if you aggro some mobs it doesn';t matter .
Except clerics make poor tanks due to very low self healing and damage reduction. Unlike GF, they can be one-shot by bosses even when standing in only their own Astral Shield healing circle.
Also, a Cleric forced to move due to huge number of adds or very powerful adds, especially move out of their healing circle, basically looks like a mighty tempting piece of chicken running around to monsters.
If you adapt to the situation we're in, being the main tank and all. It's wise to invest in a defensive spec and gear. For me all my jewelry are tank items, and it helps tremendously.
Also clerics only get two dodges per round.
It's pretty obvious they actually want clerics to die a lot in dungeons.
= sales of health stone and rez scrolls.
And I find that when I'm running for my life, if I stop for ANYTHING whether it's to drop a circle or a daily or anything, I'm dead. The best is when you dodge red circles to land in the red circles literally surrounding you.
who told you soothe is useles? I have soothe sloted and i run dungeons as single cleric on party just fine.
Maybe depends on the build you run?..
I agree though, the aggro must be lowered as it is really too much.
The plain fact is, this bug has been acknowledged and nothing has yet to be done about it, ruining the game IMO - simply because they are at 0.01 version of trying out any real group mechanics (trinity). I was a $200 level founder, and now I have stopped playing the game, simply because I refuse to play with crappy group mechanics. Quitting before BETA is even over?? GASP, you might say. Well, that's another matter. This is NOT BETA, it is released - the only BETA going on here is the players determining how well Cryptic will respond to game issues. So far, the BETA has failed, in that regard.
The mage has a 6% max reduction, or thereabouts, which actually WORKS. You cannot tell me that an almost 50% reduction can be less effective. The fact is, heal aggro is way out of scale, it isn't even calculated - mobs spawn, target the healer - that's it. During closed BETA everything was fine, then some shortbus brilliant person said "healers have it too easy", from that patch on it has been crapp.
With a dedicated group we experimented 2 full evenings with and without sooth (a dedicated group with over 30 years of MMO experience combined, raid players in EQ2 and WoW). Soothe has zero effect on the encounter mechanics, plain and simple.
Until such a time as this game becomes more than a zerg'fest, I for one will have nothing to do with it. Waste of $200 bucks - sure - but walking away from $200 dollars is far less painful than bearing the nonsense nightly that this game would bestow upon anyone who knows better (how combat should be).
I love my cleric and I generate a lot of agro. I don't want to sound like a naysayer to my fellow clerics, but deal with it and restrategize your gameplay... That is the whole point of playing the game. If it were easy, what would be the point? Sit back and wait a few seconds and throw down a heal when a group member is in dire need. Most times they will run out of the fray & you can use soothing light on them to get them to a higher level. Pick monsters to damage that are already being damaged by a more powerful group member. Keep in mind that you will still get agro and prepare your upclose heal/damage spells for those times.
Exactly ! One person should be offtanking the adds. If they do their job, the cleric can do their job and noone has to say "why no healz" because the Cleric is so busy kiting 20 adds.
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