adds can knock you off also, so you being able to knock adds off an exploit? I dont think so.
Oh please, there's like one mob that is capable of that. The proportions should be adjusted for groups who do it too much.
Knock off one mob? No problem.
Knock off 50% of the mobs? Any mob hit launches you into the stratosphere.
Entertaining AND educational!
This game was tested for months before softlaunch. Do you really believe that the developers did not know that this spell could be used the way it is being used? Are you suggesting that they had absolutely no idea that mobs could be knocked off of cliffs? If you are then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Calling this an exploit is an insult to legitimate players who are simply playing out PWEs design.
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calaminthaMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
This game was tested for months before softlaunch. Do you really believe that the developers did not know that this spell could be used the way it is being used? Are you suggesting that they had absolutely no idea that mobs could be knocked off of cliffs? If you are then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
The game was tested for months before softlaunch. Do you really believe that the developers did not know that you could use <redacted> to kill a boss repeatedly for loot? Are you suggesting that they had absolutely no idea that a set bonus could make you deal millions of damage with a single hit? If you are then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
The game was tested for months before softlaunch. Do you really believe that the developers did not know that you could use <redacted> to kill a boss repeatedly for loot? Are you suggesting that they had absolutely no idea that a set bonus could make you deal millions of damage with a single hit? If you are then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
...you are attempting to use a comparison between a skill that is used hourly with no reports of bugs..no insta kills on bosses..a spell that works as intended but has been used in specific areas..(areas I might add that are not off limits) with actual bugs on armor that insta kills bosses..bugs on bosses that cause them to respawn..You are comparing apples and oranges and the dichotomy is quite obvious to sane people like myself and many others.
I think calamintha is just pointing out that there have been numerous of bug reports over the past months and not a single one of them has been resolved, as a result this could have been bug reported but just not handled, in the same way i feel banning the people using the AH exploit is a fail. It was known, in previeus games it also had happened, it was reported to cryptic, but they failed to adress it, so any use of the exploit is not there fault.
Obviuesly they where only banned because they touched the "real money" side of this game, unlike tossing mobs of cliffs witch has no direct influence on this, and wil be left unchecked for months to come, pretty much like the rebalancing of GF/GWF wil remain unchecked for months.
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I think calamintha is just pointing out that there have been numerous of bug reports over the past months and not a single one of them has been resolved
I'd say it's a gross exaggeration to claim that "not a single one of them has been resolved," unless you just don't read patch notes.
Regardless, it's simply true that the CW spell is not "bugged" & that comparing it to the GF set exploit is irrational.
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Good lord... it's part of the game man... I use this all the time rather then spend 5/10/15... mins taking down a mob, if we can push em off a cliff...so be it.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
"Sir, were now surrounded"!
Thats great news son, now we can attack from ALL sides"!
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lordofscornMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 18Arc User
Did they also design the pirate king to occasionally throw himself off his own boat and die out of loot range?
He just rolled a double 1 on his dex check, that is all.
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lordofscornMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 18Arc User
edited May 2013
As far as being an exploit in a bugged sense, I do not believe so. It is intended from what I have seen in most cases. However, it is exploiting a mechanic when you start taking 2 control wizards and clerics to round up all mobs and trivially destroy everything quickly. It essentially makes GWF and GF pointelss/useless to even come and has to be an oversight. I'm pretty sure the devs intended one of each class in a party and it's likely to get fixed/toned down in some manner.
As far as being an exploit in a bugged sense, I do not believe so. It is intended from what I have seen in most cases. However, it is exploiting a mechanic when you start taking 2 control wizards and clerics to round up all mobs and trivially destroy everything quickly. It essentially makes GWF and GF pointelss/useless to even come and has to be an oversight. I'm pretty sure the devs intended one of each class in a party and it's likely to get fixed/toned down in some manner.
I sincerely hope that was the intent. If it wasn't? and things are as intended? The next class to be added will be total chaos.
Use the <removed exploit lead-in> to interact with the auction vendor.
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triggermenMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
. The biggest challenge in dungeons "GETTING PAST THE QUEUE"
And you are full of it too. I was in the Ice Caverns Dungeon and the second boss did just that. got blown off the edge. no loot at all dropped since he was knocked off.
And you are full of it too. I was in the Ice Caverns Dungeon and the second boss did just that. got blown off the edge. no loot at all dropped since he was knocked off.
Are you sure he didn't charge off the cliff trying to hit a player? Enhanced Golem has a gigantic range on its charge
Use the <removed exploit lead-in> to interact with the auction vendor.
you can jump of the cliff and spam "F" to get the loot dude, dont be fooled. Just bump this thread to firstpage forever, maybe it wil get some attention then...
*-* bump to make GF/GWF usefull *-*
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stonedbillMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Lol no way. The biggest challenge in dungeons are the boss adds. None of the bosses are particularly dangerous.
^^^ this
Exactly why people are pulling bosses period. They are actually super easy minus ads, pretty much like a trash mob lol
Smoke@stonedbill - Mindflayer - 60 Rogue
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farronzMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 15Arc User
edited May 2013
players casting knockback to mobs causing them to fall off the edge = exploit
mobs casting knockback on players causing them to fall off the edge = noooob
anyways, if its an exploit, fix it or warn the players not to do it. Rather than letting the "exploit" remain unfixed for an extended period of time and then ban the players who use the "exploit" when you feel like it.
players casting knockback to mobs causing them to fall off the edge = exploit
mobs casting knockback on players causing them to fall off the edge = noooob
anyways, if its an exploit, fix it or warn the players not to do it. Rather than letting the "exploit" remain unfixed for an extended period of time and then ban the players who use the "exploit" when you feel like it.
What if it isn't an exploit? What if it was intended? Couldn't that be the reason they have remained silent on the issue since it's been brought up on forums multiple times a day for weeks now?
What if it isn't an exploit? What if it was intended? Couldn't that be the reason they have remained silent on the issue since it's been brought up on forums multiple times a day for weeks now?
Who can tell? They do very little actual communicating.
Use the <removed exploit lead-in> to interact with the auction vendor.
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farronzMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 15Arc User
edited May 2013
problem is, by the time there is an official response saying that this is an exploit, the next thing you notice is that your account is banned.
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Oh please, there's like one mob that is capable of that. The proportions should be adjusted for groups who do it too much.
Knock off one mob? No problem.
Knock off 50% of the mobs? Any mob hit launches you into the stratosphere.
Entertaining AND educational!
Calling this an exploit is an insult to legitimate players who are simply playing out PWEs design.
The game was tested for months before softlaunch. Do you really believe that the developers did not know that you could use <redacted> to kill a boss repeatedly for loot? Are you suggesting that they had absolutely no idea that a set bonus could make you deal millions of damage with a single hit? If you are then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
...you are attempting to use a comparison between a skill that is used hourly with no reports of bugs..no insta kills on bosses..a spell that works as intended but has been used in specific areas..(areas I might add that are not off limits) with actual bugs on armor that insta kills bosses..bugs on bosses that cause them to respawn..You are comparing apples and oranges and the dichotomy is quite obvious to sane people like myself and many others.
Obviuesly they where only banned because they touched the "real money" side of this game, unlike tossing mobs of cliffs witch has no direct influence on this, and wil be left unchecked for months to come, pretty much like the rebalancing of GF/GWF wil remain unchecked for months.
I'd say it's a gross exaggeration to claim that "not a single one of them has been resolved," unless you just don't read patch notes.
Regardless, it's simply true that the CW spell is not "bugged" & that comparing it to the GF set exploit is irrational.
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine ...
"Sir, were now surrounded"!
Thats great news son, now we can attack from ALL sides"!
He just rolled a double 1 on his dex check, that is all.
I sincerely hope that was the intent. If it wasn't? and things are as intended? The next class to be added will be total chaos.
What's it like? Waiting for queues. I have to deal with the occasional kick because of my class but generally my GF queues are less then 30 seconds
And you are full of it too. I was in the Ice Caverns Dungeon and the second boss did just that. got blown off the edge. no loot at all dropped since he was knocked off.
Are you sure he didn't charge off the cliff trying to hit a player? Enhanced Golem has a gigantic range on its charge
*-* bump to make GF/GWF usefull *-*
^^^ this
Exactly why people are pulling bosses period. They are actually super easy minus ads, pretty much like a trash mob lol
Smoke@stonedbill - Mindflayer - 60 Rogue
mobs casting knockback on players causing them to fall off the edge = noooob
anyways, if its an exploit, fix it or warn the players not to do it. Rather than letting the "exploit" remain unfixed for an extended period of time and then ban the players who use the "exploit" when you feel like it.
What if it isn't an exploit? What if it was intended? Couldn't that be the reason they have remained silent on the issue since it's been brought up on forums multiple times a day for weeks now?
Who can tell? They do very little actual communicating.
the impact remains, GF/GFW are out of t2 dungeons, dungeons are getting cleared at a higher speed then intented, and boss difficulty is a joke..