Me too i predicted the fail of this game.
Anyway Neverwinter it's just a passageway before the beta of Wildstar and TESO.
Now thanks I can leave properly this bad game.
::sigh:: nope that is based on repeated research done in MMO's over the years. Generally MMO message boards have at best 5% of the players posting. The reality is that it is typically more like 1% of the player base posting. And that is true for all MMO's.
Which is why it is always fun to watch the crowds of self important posters claiming to speak for everyone.
Please cite some of these references you claim? I've played every MMO since Meridian 59, and MUDs for years before that and never saw a single study publishing results as to what percentage of a given population browses the forums... DERP.
::sigh:: nope that is based on repeated research done in MMO's over the years. Generally MMO message boards have at best 5% of the players posting. The reality is that it is typically more like 1% of the player base posting. And that is true for all MMO's.
Which is why it is always fun to watch the crowds of self important posters claiming to speak for everyone.
Surely you have a source for your claim then.
Neverwinter Online Open Beta is an ongoing success
those was players who just used the exploit as a excuse to get a free reroll on there toons .. in other words they was trying to exploit the downtime
Yes because the exploiters that got away with all their mules and got to use the exploit waay before this rollback wants a rollback and lose all their AD.
When you start dishing out exact numbers you can't just claim that is common sense.
Exactly.... saying 1-5% is a very finite claim... far beyond the scope of "common sense".
Not to mention horribly inaccurate even for an educated guess. If I had to guess I'd says at least 75% of a games population in this day and age use the forums to some extent... probably even a higher percentage than that.
Looks like PWE is running this game the same way they run Forsaken World! Exploiters get over at the expense of all the legit players, which is why so many people have left that game. If that is truly the case Neverwinter will die just like FW has.
No, he's right. The issue is that there is no one source to cite. Community moderators across dozens of games say it in an off-handed fashion. Usually what they say is something like, "Only a small percentage of the population uses the forums." Over the years the various mmo communities have settled on numbers anywhere between 1% and 10%, but no higher. Last number I'd heard as being generally accepted was 10%.
It's also true that the 10% (let's just say that) who *do* come to the forums are typically much more passionate about the game they're playing than the rest of the population. We have opinions we voice loudly, we have no problem getting nasty with the developers, we make outlandish claims like we have a degree in MMO design or some other **** thing that makes our voice more important than anybody else's.
Forum users are, in short, the "nerds who are to nerds what nerds are to normal people." We're the cultists. We're the extremists. Our opinions are *not* representative of the game's population in general. So, the poll wherein 70% of the forum users wanted a full wipe was not valid. It only represented the voice of a very small subsection of the game's hardcore opinion.
There are certainly a lot of players logged in & playing this "dead" game.
I think it's funny that people are demanding evidence for the claim that forum goers represent a distinct minority of any game's population, but nobody is demanding evidence that the game is "dying."
Fare you well
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine ...
Just log into the game right now. Chat is full of "WTF happened to my stuff?", "How come I lost 10 levels?", "Why is the Diamond Exchange not working?"etc. It's all i'm seeing. So although there is no way to predict hard numbers, it certainly appears that a LOT of people don't read the forums.
Just log into the game right now. Chat is full of "WTF happened to my stuff?", "How come I lost 10 levels?", "Why is the Diamond Exchange not working?"etc. It's all i'm seeing. So although there is no way to predict hard numbers, it certainly appears that a LOT of people don't read the forums.
Or follow on Facebook. Or Twitter. Or the other bazillion news outlets the game has. See my post above. It's symptomatic of the same thing.
This wouldn't have happened (as severely) if this was a sub game, not p2w.
Just a couple weeks ago, a similar bug existed in WoW: people were posting auctions, cancelling them, & getting both their item back & the price they'd auctioned it for. So, yes, it was happening -- pretty much as severely -- in a sub game.
Fare you well
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine ...
can't tell if trollin.... wait yes I can, definitely trolling.
I can't tell if your trolling.... let's see:
1) Thread title clearly states the thread's content
2) You entered the thread
3) You made no meaningful additions to the thread's original topic and discussion point
You made no meaningful additions to the thread's original topic and discussion point
The entire thread makes no meaningful additions to its own original topic, since it's utter nonsense: the game is neither "dead" nor "dying," as can be seen by anyone who actually logs in with their eyes open.
Fare you well
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine ...
The entire thread makes no meaningful additions to its own original topic, since it's utter nonsense: the game is neither "dead" nor "dying," as can be seen by anyone who actually logs in with their eyes open.
thats bull...the game is sharded, and the server creates/merges shards as necessary to accomodate the playerbase at the time, hence its impossible to simply say "I see the same amount of people as everyday"...what your not seeing is how many other shards the server is currently supporting. for example, that along with your shard, there were 25 other shard instances 3 weeks ago and now there's just 3...but wait, you probably knew that.
oh sorry, seems like I have ruined your absolutly desperate attempt at damage control...
the game was dying from the first day, being a PWE game and all that...this simply bumped up the speed of deterioration by a factor of 10...
I felt that way with Rift, Star Wars, GW2... and mostly I was right about all of them, population dropped to below 25% on each from their highest numbers. This game though.... I feel the DnD crowd will keep it above a 60% hold. As long as content keeps coming, they will stay firm. If content drops.. so will the game. Still Open Beta, and still no mass ads yet... it will come.
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jn2002dk1Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited May 2013
Game is dead on arrival given this latest fiasco
I bet Turbine is pretty happy with this though, DDO is still the only place to go for a D&D mmo
OMG what a bunch of self entitled cry babies...I have never been on a forum with such a load of obvious kids in.
OP get a grip the game will not die but please no one will mind If you go and never post again.
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Anyway Neverwinter it's just a passageway before the beta of Wildstar and TESO.
Now thanks I can leave properly this bad game.
Please cite some of these references you claim? I've played every MMO since Meridian 59, and MUDs for years before that and never saw a single study publishing results as to what percentage of a given population browses the forums... DERP.
Yes because the exploiters that got away with all their mules and got to use the exploit waay before this rollback wants a rollback and lose all their AD.
Exactly.... saying 1-5% is a very finite claim... far beyond the scope of "common sense".
Not to mention horribly inaccurate even for an educated guess. If I had to guess I'd says at least 75% of a games population in this day and age use the forums to some extent... probably even a higher percentage than that.
No, he's right. The issue is that there is no one source to cite. Community moderators across dozens of games say it in an off-handed fashion. Usually what they say is something like, "Only a small percentage of the population uses the forums." Over the years the various mmo communities have settled on numbers anywhere between 1% and 10%, but no higher. Last number I'd heard as being generally accepted was 10%.
It's also true that the 10% (let's just say that) who *do* come to the forums are typically much more passionate about the game they're playing than the rest of the population. We have opinions we voice loudly, we have no problem getting nasty with the developers, we make outlandish claims like we have a degree in MMO design or some other **** thing that makes our voice more important than anybody else's.
Forum users are, in short, the "nerds who are to nerds what nerds are to normal people." We're the cultists. We're the extremists. Our opinions are *not* representative of the game's population in general. So, the poll wherein 70% of the forum users wanted a full wipe was not valid. It only represented the voice of a very small subsection of the game's hardcore opinion.
I think it's funny that people are demanding evidence for the claim that forum goers represent a distinct minority of any game's population, but nobody is demanding evidence that the game is "dying."
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine ...
Or follow on Facebook. Or Twitter. Or the other bazillion news outlets the game has. See my post above. It's symptomatic of the same thing.
I was just in game. I see no less characters running around than usual.
Just a couple weeks ago, a similar bug existed in WoW: people were posting auctions, cancelling them, & getting both their item back & the price they'd auctioned it for. So, yes, it was happening -- pretty much as severely -- in a sub game.
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine ...
can't tell if trollin.... wait yes I can, definitely trolling.
I can't tell if your trolling.... let's see:
1) Thread title clearly states the thread's content
2) You entered the thread
3) You made no meaningful additions to the thread's original topic and discussion point
Yup your trolling.
Its not even worth spending time ingame.
The entire thread makes no meaningful additions to its own original topic, since it's utter nonsense: the game is neither "dead" nor "dying," as can be seen by anyone who actually logs in with their eyes open.
Let your life proceed by its own designs
Nothing to tell
Let the words be yours, I'm done with mine ...
Because the small percentage of people that post on these forums doesn't accurately reflect the community.
thats bull...the game is sharded, and the server creates/merges shards as necessary to accomodate the playerbase at the time, hence its impossible to simply say "I see the same amount of people as everyday"...what your not seeing is how many other shards the server is currently supporting. for example, that along with your shard, there were 25 other shard instances 3 weeks ago and now there's just 3...but wait, you probably knew that.
oh sorry, seems like I have ruined your absolutly desperate attempt at damage control...
the game was dying from the first day, being a PWE game and all that...this simply bumped up the speed of deterioration by a factor of 10...
I bet Turbine is pretty happy with this though, DDO is still the only place to go for a D&D mmo
Interesting argument - so whatever is the most consensus here must be wrong then?
Oh wait that makes even less sense.
Because all I have seen are hissy fits from a minority pitching one because they didn't get their way on a wipe...
Show me your proof that the 1 - 5% on the forums of all places are the ones keeping the game afloat...
Waaaaaa!
Waaaaaa!
OMG what a bunch of self entitled cry babies...I have never been on a forum with such a load of obvious kids in.
OP get a grip the game will not die but please no one will mind If you go and never post again.