Let me give you a simple example ^^, a naked girl walks down the street, some guys will just watch and some will make a comment ... for some men seeing the naked girl will make a difference for some not
if you dont understand my example then I dont think you get the picture even with whats going on on the server
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Thanks for your post kid. Now we all understand completely where you are coming from.
I understand its open beta and such and whatever is going on but the exploits on being able to farm the highest dungeons and all is just to much.
Half of our guild left the game due to those exploit and the economy is bassicly completely ruined.
I do understand that some ppl dont wanne reroll and dont mind it all.
So why not just satisfy the other big half that do mind and that are still intrested in the game but just cant handle all the huge drawback and give us a new shard ?
Eventually your plan is to merge all over time so what does 1 extra shard matter ... nothing just satisfied customers !!!
Yea new shard would get me playing again.. and possibly spending money IF AND ONLY IF they obviously fix the problems before opening a new shard. I'm not worried about the multitude of exploits already well publicized on these forums.. I'm worried about those that people are smart enough to keep secret for themselves... like some of the ones in Wow that most people still probably don't know ever existed.
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Honestly, I am only seeing people being mad because others have gotten stuff that they haven't. The world works like this, someone else will always be better off than you, whether it be fair or not. It's a good learning experience for most of you. Literally the only thing it affects is that you will make less profit on the auction house.
yeah exactly and ones its claimed you cant switch so wheres your point ?
Ok, im going to use small words and try to make it understandable.
I take my AD and convert it to Zen
Zen exists as a pool available to any character on any shard. With me so far? This part is really important.
I make a character on the new shard
I take my zen and convert it back to AD on the new shard. Presto!
I have successfully destroyed the new shards perfect exploit free economy. And did it in a perfectly legit way. And if the exchange rates are better (and they most likely would be) Id make a nice profit in the process.
Understand now? What would be the point if a new shard if the "tainted" economy could simply be moved over?
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BTW, it's worth pointing out that if this was Open Beta, there would be new shards at launch - by definition!
But this is not an open beta, it's a soft launch... only calling it beta because of all the fail... so there won't be any new shards when they pretend to launch it, because it already launched... etc...
God those awefull days of being a kid, no thanks you can keep em
I was quite happy as a child. No complications, no obligations, no real problems... just go to shcool, play with your friends, play with your toys, play alone, eat, pee, poo, sleep.
You live in an imaginary world made up of your own nonsensical rules.
The people rerolling on this new server will mostly just quit the game otherwise.
Most likely the rerolling people won't exploit the exploits, by definition they're trying to get away form you.
Still mean...and well that is ridiculously naive to believe this "New" Server is only going to allow good honest hard working folk in....I mean...If I was an exploiter the new server would be like fresh meat!
I'm acctually wondering for all those that are having so much fun and all why in godsname are you on the forum you should be having fun online and not staying here and mock others !!!
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I'm acctually wondering for all those that are having so much fun and all why in godsname are you on the forum you should be having fun online and not staying here and mock others !!!
I'm trying to get actual reasons why a wipe/new shard would be a good idea, but nobody wishing for such things has any good reasons other than "someone else is better than me".
I'm acctually wondering for all those that are having so much fun and all why in godsname are you on the forum you should be having fun online and not staying here and mock others !!!
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I'm acctually wondering for all those that are having so much fun and all why in godsname are you on the forum you should be having fun online and not staying here and mock others !!!
Cause our bosses are beating up on us as we sit at our desks and it's way more fun running a skirmish in the forums?
These guys are trolls, just ignore them.
Look at their post history.
Gannigan even says "I have not encountered a single bug or issue yet and I am level 40."
Guess all the cheats and exploits and rubber banding and server down time are news to him.
My favorite part though is how he likes to quote forum rules all the time.
But back to back posts on different threads he says the rules call for no name calling, then he calls people HAMSTER or Mr. Bernake (redundancy too...).
Anyway, looks like all the people without troll post histories agree here.
Looking forward to coming back to the game on launch if there's a new shard...
These guys are trolls, just ignore them.
Look at their post history.
Gannigan even says "I have not encountered a single bug or issue yet and I am level 40."
Guess all the cheats and exploits and rubber banding and server down time are news to him.
My favorite part though is how he likes to quote forum rules all the time.
But back to back posts on different threads he says the rules call for no name calling, then he calls people HAMSTER or Mr. Bernake (redundancy too...).
Anyway, looks like all the people without troll post histories agree here.
Looking forward to coming back to the game on launch if there's a new shard...
EDIT: Oh, and good post OP. Ignore the HAMSTER.
You used to sound like one of those annoying kids on my vent who I eventually banned because I can't stand how stupid they were. LOL
Zen can even be moved to other games, like STO.... Wait. Stop for a minute. Click. Click. Is it sinking in yet?
No it can't. I play STO almost religiously and already had the idea of using my vast stores of Dilithium there to cash in as Zen for Neverwinter. Didn't work. Was worth a shot at least!
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I'm trying to get actual reasons why a wipe/new shard would be a good idea, but nobody wishing for such things has any good reasons other than "someone else is better than me".
There are actually numerous reasons why the idea would be a decent and workable one. However, the only thing many people WANT the reason to be is "you're just all jealous, nya nya nya!" There may well be some people who are jealous. However, there are other reasons that have nothing to do with other peoples' shinies.
1) They might want to start fresh on the latest iteration of the game once it goes "officially live", with a fresh economy.
2) They might want to begin on a server where there aren't thousands of 60th levels already running around.
3) They might want to start on a new server to help build a server community from the ground up.
4) They might want to start again with some friends who are new to the game, and they all want to start in the same place, without having to make new accounts or buy extra character slots.
Etc.
None of those have to do with "jealousy". It's not even in the top 10.
I know, I know, you want to think everyone is envious of your awesome 60th level characters and tricked-out epic gear, but honestly, there are many people who don't care about that sort of thing. When new servers opened up in other MMOs I've played, they were always VERY popular. People ENJOY starting over on a brand new server. Some enjoy trying to help build a community, some like the "race to max level", some like being "first!" to do something, etc.
However, Cryptic is going to stick with their "one size fits all" server, sadly.
Trying to simplify the reasons as "ur just jealous, lolz!" is, frankly, pathetic.
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Thanks for your post kid. Now we all understand completely where you are coming from.
Zen can even be moved to other games, like STO.... Wait. Stop for a minute. Click. Click. Is it sinking in yet?
He doesn't realise that not all founders will choose to actually show it in their forum names.
Yea new shard would get me playing again.. and possibly spending money IF AND ONLY IF they obviously fix the problems before opening a new shard. I'm not worried about the multitude of exploits already well publicized on these forums.. I'm worried about those that people are smart enough to keep secret for themselves... like some of the ones in Wow that most people still probably don't know ever existed.
Ok, im going to use small words and try to make it understandable.
I take my AD and convert it to Zen
Zen exists as a pool available to any character on any shard. With me so far? This part is really important.
I make a character on the new shard
I take my zen and convert it back to AD on the new shard. Presto!
I have successfully destroyed the new shards perfect exploit free economy. And did it in a perfectly legit way. And if the exchange rates are better (and they most likely would be) Id make a nice profit in the process.
Understand now? What would be the point if a new shard if the "tainted" economy could simply be moved over?
I didn't realize there was a way to do that, hmmm...
God those awefull days of being a kid, no thanks you can keep em
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In all fairness, you have the spelling capabilities and thought process of one.
But this is not an open beta, it's a soft launch... only calling it beta because of all the fail... so there won't be any new shards when they pretend to launch it, because it already launched... etc...
I was quite happy as a child. No complications, no obligations, no real problems... just go to shcool, play with your friends, play with your toys, play alone, eat, pee, poo, sleep.
I want this class in NW.
You mean you?
Well that is just mean. You don't know who wants to play with me and who doesn't.
Still mean...and well that is ridiculously naive to believe this "New" Server is only going to allow good honest hard working folk in....I mean...If I was an exploiter the new server would be like fresh meat!
Uhh...Derp? That has been happening in OUR world for about the last 6 years.
That makes me sad. I was hoping we could possibly be friends and play together.
Oh my god nice really im so impressed by you ... maybe wanne start having a chat in 5 other different languages ?
Try me, I am fluent in Dwarven, Elvish, Orc, Common & Kobold!
I'm trying to get actual reasons why a wipe/new shard would be a good idea, but nobody wishing for such things has any good reasons other than "someone else is better than me".
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Cause our bosses are beating up on us as we sit at our desks and it's way more fun running a skirmish in the forums?
While crafting through the gateway of course!
You mean getting paid not work. Yet another exploit I guess.
Once a cheater always a cheater...
Someday, child, you will realize what a salary is.
Do you really think that the majority of people on the forums will ever get that? Rofl.
Look at their post history.
Gannigan even says "I have not encountered a single bug or issue yet and I am level 40."
Guess all the cheats and exploits and rubber banding and server down time are news to him.
My favorite part though is how he likes to quote forum rules all the time.
But back to back posts on different threads he says the rules call for no name calling, then he calls people HAMSTER or Mr. Bernake (redundancy too...).
Anyway, looks like all the people without troll post histories agree here.
Looking forward to coming back to the game on launch if there's a new shard...
EDIT: Oh, and good post OP. Ignore the HAMSTER.
You used to sound like one of those annoying kids on my vent who I eventually banned because I can't stand how stupid they were. LOL
Forum rules clearly state you are not allowed to call people cheaters and accuse people of exploiting here.
Zen can not be moved to other Perfect World games. Once Zen is applied to a game it is locked there. You're misinformed and spreading misinformation.
No it can't. I play STO almost religiously and already had the idea of using my vast stores of Dilithium there to cash in as Zen for Neverwinter. Didn't work. Was worth a shot at least!
"Go into battle expecting to die. Then, fight like you want to live." - Huren Hewnoak
There are actually numerous reasons why the idea would be a decent and workable one. However, the only thing many people WANT the reason to be is "you're just all jealous, nya nya nya!" There may well be some people who are jealous. However, there are other reasons that have nothing to do with other peoples' shinies.
1) They might want to start fresh on the latest iteration of the game once it goes "officially live", with a fresh economy.
2) They might want to begin on a server where there aren't thousands of 60th levels already running around.
3) They might want to start on a new server to help build a server community from the ground up.
4) They might want to start again with some friends who are new to the game, and they all want to start in the same place, without having to make new accounts or buy extra character slots.
Etc.
None of those have to do with "jealousy". It's not even in the top 10.
I know, I know, you want to think everyone is envious of your awesome 60th level characters and tricked-out epic gear, but honestly, there are many people who don't care about that sort of thing. When new servers opened up in other MMOs I've played, they were always VERY popular. People ENJOY starting over on a brand new server. Some enjoy trying to help build a community, some like the "race to max level", some like being "first!" to do something, etc.
However, Cryptic is going to stick with their "one size fits all" server, sadly.
Trying to simplify the reasons as "ur just jealous, lolz!" is, frankly, pathetic.
If you think nothing is wrong just keep on doing or play whatever your playing / doing, dont come over and judge other ppls opinions.