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kaydiechi
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so i was running a T2 dungeon just now, and this really bad mannered rogue kept needing on EVERYTHING.
literally everything, and winning everything.
we do the 2nd boss and an upgrade (t2 offhand wizard item drops) and he needs it, of course me being a wizard, i don't get wizard loot, the rogue does.
so i kick him from the group before he gets a chance to loot his seals and chest, and he says that abusing kicking people from dungeons is bannable, is this true?
i know i probally got trolled i just want to know lol
also, i've done over 30 dungeons and haven't gotten a single epic for my class cause every other class gets it because everyone needs on everything, why... WHY DONT WE HAVE NEED OVER GREED?
literally everything, and winning everything.
we do the 2nd boss and an upgrade (t2 offhand wizard item drops) and he needs it, of course me being a wizard, i don't get wizard loot, the rogue does.
so i kick him from the group before he gets a chance to loot his seals and chest, and he says that abusing kicking people from dungeons is bannable, is this true?
i know i probally got trolled i just want to know lol
also, i've done over 30 dungeons and haven't gotten a single epic for my class cause every other class gets it because everyone needs on everything, why... WHY DONT WE HAVE NEED OVER GREED?
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Be respectful, remember, you PLAY the game at your convenience, they WORK at no ones."
My response to him would be Cryptic allows the leader to kick so it isn't abuse just like Cryptic allows you to roll need on everything including items your class cannot use so it is perfectly acceptable to be a d-bag and roll need on everything. Apparently...in this game....
God I would have loved to have seen that. Would have been hilarious
They're doing it to sell on the auction house since tons of people aren't doing T2s yet. Look at the stuff that drops in cloak tower now. It goes for under 1k now. The stuff in the higher dungeons goes for 60k+
They would have to be pretty stupid not to see the difference. Then again I don't have a high opinion of them anyways, but I wouldn't say those doing it are stupid. Plenty of other terms come to mind however.
or run an idle bot in PvP for 24 hours and buy a full PvP set
what a joke of a game
What would be even nicer is if Cryptic fixed the **** loot system so only people that can use the item for their class can roll need. Like in just about every mmo out there anymore.
no they do it to sell on AH to get AD to get Zen since prices on shop are stupid high....
True.People should be mature enough to grasp that it is a team and you shouldn't screw over your teammates.
I completely agree. Unfortunately, many prove time and time again concepts like this are simply out of their reach and comprehension. Sad yet true.
Yeah that tends to be their "rationale" or they'll say it is for their alt or companion.
grow up. the game is fun
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That's one good thing in MMO games; you can make new friends online and improve your own gaming experience a lot. Some of them might even carry on to other games you're both playing. That's much better than sticking with PUGs and getting p'd off repeatedly by those who have no clue about "fair play".
I have grouped with plenty of people in this game that don't do that. Unfortunately, it only takes one to ruin it for others or start arguments in group chat.
Heck, I was in one group where some rolled need on a TR item they couldn't use but when the TR questioned why they would do it the person that won actually gave the TR the item. Was pretty cool actually.
How does the game decide who gets the crown? I ask because I seem to have the crown in the majority of my LFG dungeons and PvP matches. Do I just accept quickly?
I actually hope more and more start doing this.
If you are joining a random dungeon and doing that I really hope they ban you just like the people who abuse 'kick' in PvP games. They are playing the game as intended. Why else would the game have an AD based auction house and BoE drops from bosses?
It's a different matter if you made the group yourself. Your group, your rules.
The heck with that he deserves to be commended. He isn't abusing anything except ridding the group of a greedy shmuck.
I also kick people from PvP if they are verbally abusive toward their team mates. If I have the crown, the rules are simple: Show a minimum amount of respect for the people in your group, or get removed. It is simple and straight forward. It is a community, not a jungle.
Just to add this: It is almost always only one person who pulls that stuff. In 95% of the dungeon groups I played with so far everyone rolled greed unless they did need it and it was for their class. Rolling need on everything is not the norm and not the standard. I rarely have to actually kick someone, because most folks are actually considerate. If you are not, well, the group is better off without you. No group has ever disagreed with a perma needer getting removed.
If everyone rolled need, I would leave the group myself.
It is posts like this that make me wish they had a feature to vote for. Couldn't give enough up votes to one like this...well said...
You don't think kicking people in random queues is abuse? No wonder people keep doing that for fun. If you don't like the current need/greed system or the single-use chests (I don't) then get Cryptic to change it.
Just like making maps where you knock 50 ogres off cliffs or sharing bread crumb quests was intended? I would call them oversights.
No I don't think it is abuse when they're <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> over other members of the group because they're so ******* greedy they want to roll need on everything and shaft another person that is helping them complete their current undertaking no less by trying to take an item that person can use on their current character. I would argue they are the one abusing the system unless they enjoy pissing people off and creating drama in the group as it usually tends to do.
There is a difference between doing it for fun and doing it to remove a griefer from the group. If four people are considerate and roll greed and one person rolls need on everything and remains inconsiderate even when it is pointed out (this part matters), then those four people should not have to put up with that one person who walks over the rest of the group. I don't need a babysitter for everything and I prefer systems were the community can handle social issues among themselves. Like the kicking, like the chat ban if someone spams.
It is not an oversight because it works that way in the other Cryptic games as well. Four people shouldn't have to leave because of one person. Now if the leader is the jerk and bullies the rest of the group, then that is unfortunate, but the probability that the jerk is someone other than the leader is far higher. Plus, as I said, it rarely happens that someone needs on everything. I would say I see it maybe in one out of ten groups.
By the way, there was a Cryptic post yesterday (or the day before) that the greed/need issue is on their list of things they want to address. This indicates that needing on everything is indeed not the intended way of playing.
I would not mind a vote kick feature so that it is not just one person who can do the kicking.