GWF PVP stunlock/burst dps guide w/ active stream for answering your questions

chainer88

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Video Guide Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxgAZqiSsuY


ThIs guIde Is strIctly for a sIngle target burst dps/stunlock great weapon fIghter
you wIll be able to crIt for 9-14k+ even wIth non daIly abIlItIes
the 3-4 encounter/daIly rotatIon wIll keep your target In 100% stunlock and In order of my rotatIon w/ my gear crIt for 11k > 10k > 14k > 15k at over 40% crIt chance

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Stats:
lvl str/dex

Gear:
CrIt>power>armor pen

4 pIece of the berserker set Is the best Imo because of the 2 pIece 400 crIt
but mostly because of the 4 pIece reduces actIve cool downs by 5 seconds when usIng a daIly
what thIs wIll allow you to do It use
flourIshh > takedown > IndomItable battle strIke > crescendo > flourIsh > takedown > IndomItable battle strIke
the WHOLE ENTIRE DURATION of thIs abIlIty rotatIon your opponent wIll be stunlocked
here are the numbers I see when I crIt wIth these abIlItys
flourIshh(11k) > takedown(10k) > IndomItable battle strIke(14k) > crescendo(15k) > flourIshh(11k) > takedown(10k) > IndomItable battle strIke(14k)
agaIn thIs Is at around 40% crIt chance w/ +90% crIt damage


Feats:

here Is a screen shot of my specs

FIrst TIer
3 PoInts DIscIple of Strength
3 PoInts Into Toughness

Second tIer
3 Endless Assault
3 Armor SpecIalIzatIon


ThIrd TIer
5 Into Steely Defense


Fourth TIer
3 Into Weapon Mastery for 3% crIt
2 out 3 Into devastatIng crItIcal whIch gIves 10% Increased crIt hIt damage


Paragon Feats:
10 PoInts Into InstIgator (1st Paragon Feat tree)
5 Into unstoppable recovery for 5% Insta heal when unstoppable
*5 Into StunnIng FlourIsh 5% extra crIt chance and 1 second stun on last hIt wItch Is key to thIs buIld
stunnIng flourIshh allows you to be able to use takedown rIght after w/o havIng to worry about your target evadIng It.
also gIves you enough tIme to get to your target If there was a dIstance created between you and target when flourIshh was used by sprInt Into takedown


15 PoInts Into Destroyer (2nd Paragon Feat tree)
5 Into Great Weapon Focus whIch Increases Damage of At-WIlls by 10%
5 Into Deep Gash (adds dot on crIt)
5 Into Relentless Battle Fury to reduce the cooldown of Takedown by 25%

6 PoInts Into SentInel (2nd Paragon Feat tree)
5 PoInts Into Student of the Sword
1 Into scale agIlIty

Powers:

Encounters (for PvP):
(all 3 PoInts In)
FlourIsh
Takedown
IndomItable Battle StrIke


At WIlls:
Sure StrIke
Weapon Master's StrIke


DaIlIes:
Crescendo (maIn daIly)

PassIves:
Weapon Master (because of CrIt Chance Increase)
can also use Bravery Instead of Weapon Master for 15% move speed and deflect.
*Steel Grace Is key for 30% cc duratIon reductIon


RotatIons and Play style:
Start by gettIng In close(5-10 yards) In case the enemy moves whIle you start out wIth FlourIsh.


Regular RotatIon:
FlourIsh > Takedown (ImmedIately after FlourIsh wIle target Is stunned and cant avoId It) > IndomItable Battle StrIke (ImmedIately)
ThIs rotatIon has the abIlIty to completely take down sIngle targets by yourself


For stunlock kIll you have your daIly:
Start wIth the regular rotatIon and follow up wIth a Crescendo. Make sure you have Unstoppable up when you use Crescendo though. Almost guaranteed to take down your enemy of low defense from 100% hp > dead!!

ThIs buIld Is not an offensIve tank. Play style Is rather sImIlar to a rogue where you run In, burst damage for a kIll, run out behInd your back lInes, at thIs poInt eIther waIt for your cool downs to refresh and run back In and go for another kIll or go for a heal pot. A lot of the tIme It Is not worth It to stay In the mIddle of a fIght auto attackIng doIng mInImal damage whIle takIng a ton of damage as an easy target for ranged to safely nuke from a dIstance. the gwfs posItIon the battlefIeld Is maInly mId fIeld protectIng your teams squIshIes/healers from rouges and cws, It Is Important to not overextend and chase your targets Into your enemIes back lInes as you are not a tank and are rather squIshy. If you pressure someone enough to get them to run away from the fIght at 10-20% health sometImes Its better to let them run away and turn around to help the mId fIeld and hoppIng on another prIorIty target. KIlls aren't always everythIng, the Important thIng Is to wIn the game


OH PS!!!!!
VERY NICE TIP TO ANYONE WHO GAVE THIS A READ

When you 1v1 a melee, after you go thru your encounter rotatIon, use sprIt and create dIstance to stall damage.
what thIs wIll do Is allow you to take mInImal damage whIle waItIng for your cds
almost every class Is goIng to out dps you If your spamIng your at wIll and sIttIng stIll alowIng them to dump all the numbers they want on you.


anyways thanks for gIvIng my guIde a read and If thIs helped please check out my twItch channel and throw me a follow.

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santent

Looks tasty. How often has this rotation not worked on a 1v1 situation? (as in they out maneuvered you somehow)

xylithan

I saw someone moaning about a GWF stunlocking them to death in one of the other forums. I take it this is a potential build and rotation that may have done it.

I definitely like it and will keep this in mind for my GWF (he's lvl 41 at the moment) I have had a situation where I managed to pretty much stun someone to near death. I went from thinking "GWF sucks for control" to "OMG He couldn't do a thing!"... good times

mmoplaya1971

chainer88 wrote: »

When you 1v1 a melee, after you go thru your encounter rotatIon, use sprIt and create dIstance to stall damage. what thIs wIll do Is allow you to take mInImal damage whIle waItIng for your cds
almost every class Is goIng to out dps you If your spamIng your at wIll and sIttIng stIll alowIng them to dump all the numbers they want on you.

What about VS TR? I tried this but they just throw daggers at me.

stormstrafe

This is priceless, thanks Chainer!!!

chainer88

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chainer88

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ganjaman1

Very well written informative guide simply done for everyone to just look at it and understand wtf hit them in PvP

chainer88

ganjaman1 wrote: »

Very well written informative guide simply done for everyone to just look at it and understand wtf hit them in PvP

thanks man, i had alot of requests to write this guide so i hope people enjoy it and find the info they are looking for.

lejenawasmoczem

isnt it better to get "more action points during unstoppable" than max hp? you could basicly spam crescendo 25% faster

possum440

Chainer88, why give away the password to the secret candy room? Grin, we use an exact build with the exception of two passives. One thing i saw in beta and still see is the Guardian grey ball of 99.9% forever block, this, and any GWF build is useless against it, I can take rogues and CW if I am one on one but a guardian spamming his block is an issue that needs to be addressed. even a 2 second window would be nice so we could start a rotation but as it stands Guardians with a block build need not fear us.

I built my spec with str/dex knowing what it would do, I would bet a lot of folks are scampering around to do the same now. You should never give secrets away.....

"The truly successful people are the ones nobody knows".

theninjor

Can you please explain how you deal with clerics at all?

Like Im taking on 2 rouges with no issues at all then a cleric comes in and heals all the damage I did and then I cant do any damage to the rogues or the cleric. Figured you know do the basic MMO PvP strat, take out the healer. NOPE cant even touch his HP, ok ill burst the DPS down... oh wait it takes me 2 - 3 rotations to kill a rogue.

Even alone when Im about kill someone nope, all my skills are on cooldown and they can just walk away from me while I sprint to attempt to keep up with them get a stun ready nope they just dodge it.

Honestly even after getting to level 30 I feel like as a GWF I bring nothing to the table. Tankiness? GF does that better then me, damage? TR does that better then me, Stunning/CC? CW do that better then me.

redeclipze

So what's the best dice roll for the stats at creation? 18str/16dex/12con? Or 16/18/12? Human ofcourse with the +2 to str

chainer88

New in depth video guide on youtube is up
check that out and give the thumbs is you like it = )
also check out my stream www.twitch.tv/chainerfails i just went live and im gonna be online answering questions for a few hours

chainer88

possum440 wrote: »

Chainer88, why give away the password to the secret candy room? Grin, we use an exact build with the exception of two passives. One thing i saw in beta and still see is the Guardian grey ball of 99.9% forever block, this, and any GWF build is useless against it, I can take rogues and CW if I am one on one but a guardian spamming his block is an issue that needs to be addressed. even a 2 second window would be nice so we could start a rotation but as it stands Guardians with a block build need not fear us.

I built my spec with str/dex knowing what it would do, I would bet a lot of folks are scampering around to do the same now. You should never give secrets away.....

"The truly successful people are the ones nobody knows".

just try to get behind the guard w/ flourish and or take down. once your encounters are on cd kite the gf until thier back up and repeat. you should do fine this way.

im just here to help people understand the game... if everyone knew how to play less would cry nerf. i also am one who likes to see competition and run into competitive 1v1s and or premade vs premade. this is the first game im taking on from the media/game guide side tho and sorry for giving away the secrets but eventually someone will do it anyways.

paragon33

lol this just happened to me an hour ago; first time a GWF ever did it to me. Def not used to that happening; I was dead long before I could move. Forgot his name already but he was destroying. He hit like a truck.

chainer88

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gravityx19

Great first video Chainer, not bad quality and informative. Just gotta work on the fluidity of it and you will do great at the media side of games

opm49602

So why do you take great weapon focus over staying power?

theninjor

Chainer how to make up for the fact that people can just walk away from us after we burn all of our encounters.

At the moment it seems that if we don't blow them up they can just walk away without any fear in the world. Their teleports/dodges cover more ground then our sprint could ever hope for.

redeclipze

Would a GWF gimp himself if he rolled 18 dex 16 str? Or should I max str?

Want to focus on crit since stats don't get diminishing returns from ratings.

xydsxlegend

BumpBumpBumpBump:cool:

heyyalls

what ring/neck/belt do you wear? what gems/runes do you have in each equipment?

acrosscat

Dumb question perhaps, but wouldn't foregoing Toughness 3 for Unstoppable Action 2 and Devastating Critical 2 to Devastating Critical 3 work out better to basically pump out more damage? I'm trying to follow your build here for my starting GWF, pretty fun so far up to L20.

ethangaddes1

Great Guide, Definitely one of the best GWF's in neverwinter, and knows what he is talking about.

xydsxlegend

I love the PvP steaming!

xydsxlegend

Bump This Shat!

xydsxlegend

Bump This Shat!

gravityx19

I cant decide if I want to do this single target burst build or go for more of an AoE Pressure build and leave the single target burst to my TR friend.

chainer88

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idontcomehere

lejenawasmoczem wrote: »

isnt it better to get "more action points during unstoppable" than max hp? you could basicly spam crescendo 25% faster

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