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khevor
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I started out enjoying myself. The mechanics are pretty much the same as STO so it was relatively easy to get a feel for the UI, zen shop, etc. The combat is a tad more twitchy than I'm used to (and that's led to more than a couple of deaths LOL) but I was okay with it.
Then I hit level 20. I wanted to get a mount, you see. I was looking forward to it. I gained two more levels while thinking about whether or not I wanted to buy one from the shop ($30 or $40 worth of Zen - which I can live with) or get one from AH (~50,000 - 10,000,000 AD) or gain some gold and buy one at the Stall for ~5 gold. Most of the mounts available didn't really interest me but then I saw one that I fell in love with... but...
The mount I wanted is rather rare, you see. You can only buy it with T bars... 2500 of them. That would require me to buy over 250 keys to open over 250 Nightmare boxes to gather enough T bars. A mount for $40, like I said, I could live with... but *this* particular mount would cost well over $300 to get (up to 10 T bars per lockbox with no guarantee you'll get 10). My jaw hit the floor. Even if I *wanted* to spend that kind of money on a game, I simply couldn't do it and for that price, no one in their right mind would sell such a creature in the AH.
I attempted to continue playing after this horrific revelation, but found that my interest in the game has fallen. You might think it silly that this one thing could have such an effect but when you find something you really want for your character only to discover there is no feasible way you could ever get it, it colours your view markedly.
There are a lot of things I can overlook, after all, it is still in beta and every MMO in existence is in a state of perpetual change (read:never finished), but I'm not sure I can be the proverbial donkey chasing the carrot on a stick in this case.
With my enjoyment curtailed, I think I'll put this game on a shelf and come back to it later. I'm curious if anyone else has ever experienced similar to this.
Then I hit level 20. I wanted to get a mount, you see. I was looking forward to it. I gained two more levels while thinking about whether or not I wanted to buy one from the shop ($30 or $40 worth of Zen - which I can live with) or get one from AH (~50,000 - 10,000,000 AD) or gain some gold and buy one at the Stall for ~5 gold. Most of the mounts available didn't really interest me but then I saw one that I fell in love with... but...
The mount I wanted is rather rare, you see. You can only buy it with T bars... 2500 of them. That would require me to buy over 250 keys to open over 250 Nightmare boxes to gather enough T bars. A mount for $40, like I said, I could live with... but *this* particular mount would cost well over $300 to get (up to 10 T bars per lockbox with no guarantee you'll get 10). My jaw hit the floor. Even if I *wanted* to spend that kind of money on a game, I simply couldn't do it and for that price, no one in their right mind would sell such a creature in the AH.
I attempted to continue playing after this horrific revelation, but found that my interest in the game has fallen. You might think it silly that this one thing could have such an effect but when you find something you really want for your character only to discover there is no feasible way you could ever get it, it colours your view markedly.
There are a lot of things I can overlook, after all, it is still in beta and every MMO in existence is in a state of perpetual change (read:never finished), but I'm not sure I can be the proverbial donkey chasing the carrot on a stick in this case.
With my enjoyment curtailed, I think I'll put this game on a shelf and come back to it later. I'm curious if anyone else has ever experienced similar to this.
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go outside, please.
I beg of you.
As for mounts, ah well, WoW had several that I really wanted and never could get. You either needed insane luck or ... well, insane luck. For some, you could have bought a spot in a raid group, but I never ended up with that brightly colored gryphon (Ashes of Alkir, I think it was called). And I had tried for one for literally years.
@mbomberdavid The regular horses are 40% speed increase... um, the Zen mounts are 110% speed increase... not sure about the nightmare mounts, offhand.
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I'm perfectly happy with my 5g mount.
Yeah I know you can buy a perfectly fine mount for 5 gold at level 20. But apparently the OP's entire happiness with the game revolves around having the rarest and hardest to get mount the moment he turned level 20. I just just can't relate.
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Being as this is open beta many things will change over time. Even the prices for things should be looked at as beta, not seen as set in stone. There is no guarantee the prices will be revised down but the feedback from many players suggests it should, so they might take that into consideration.
I would like a cat, but at the moment they are wildly expensive, so I'm not getting one right now. However, there are many pets other than cats, so I will make do with what I can until I feel I can afford it.
Perhaps, until circumstances change for the mount you do want, you can make do with a mount you can afford, and then see if you can figure out a way to get the mount you do want without spending so much cash.
so likely no better than my spider. thanks. for what it is worth, i do think the T-Bar version is nicer to look at than the lock box version. I can understand wanting to get lockbox ships in STO because you get a whole different gaming experience but if the horse only looks different is is far to pricey for me. If the lock box version had a magic saddle and the T-Bar version had a magic bridle when combined formed a stat boosting set then maybe i could see why people would want to spend large amounts of real life money on it but just to look neat is not enough to make me spend that amount of real life cash. Still, if i ever see anyone in the game riding that t-bar horse i will be grateful they have supported the game.
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Hmmm, I'll add a bit of an addendum here then:
If the mount was limited to say level 60 (is that the cap, or is it 50? Either way), and you had to do a series of rare quests in order to get it, I'd be happy with that. That is something I can focus on - a purpose to keep playing (well, one, at any rate). But yes, it is like you said.
@khevor "those with money to burn and those with extraordinary patience" can add to the game community in their own ways so i do not think this is a bad policy in theory...
You can focus on farming Astral Diamonds and exchange them for 125 Zen (about 55k AD right now), get a key, and open a box for 10 bars. This gives you a definie purpose in the game, and wish I envy you for (because I'd just spend the cash if I really wanted it, which I think is a suboptimal approach).
If the mount could be obtained by a "very rare" quest (what would make it rare and why do you think you would be able to get it?), everyone in the game would have it. Besides being pretty, part of its attraction is that only see very few of them.
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I have played STO, CO and NW, and all of them have a preponderance of over priced goods and services, and even though they have the relevant In Game Currency to Zen mechanism it is still ludicrously over priced.
Now, that said, this seems to be the current trend for F2P MMO, SWTOR has just about the worst F2P and most overpriced goods and services imaginable.
If there was one piece of advise I would give the PW (and indeed SWTOR) it would be go and see how Turbine does F2P in LOTRO; because comparing your F2P Model to the LOTRO F2P Model, you guys are still about 80% behind the curve.
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...and pending on how much of a timesink and difficult it was others would flip their lid over it. Not sure it would even be worth it for them. VG tried something like that and it was a disaster becaause people complained about the quest chain left and right. Although to be fair it was buggy as hell in places.
Eh Turbine is one of the better f2p designs out there but NW does best them in some areas.
@imivo I just don't have the patience to do the kind of regular farming that you're alluding to. I've met some people that seem to have unending patience for it, but sadly, I'm not one of them. lol
@terradraconis I don't think they are in AH although, admittedly, I never actually looked. I'm not certain any of the in-game currencies can be put in AH but that's just a guess on my part.
@redneckronin That seems to be the most common of current issues I've read about thus far and I sincerely hope it's something that does get addressed at some point if it's true.
You are very unlikely to ever buy it for bars because that's just a failsafe for people with ridiculously bad luck. You should get the mount directly from a box long before you get that many bars. I haven't heard of too many people opening more than 20-30 boxes to get their mount, the current AH price supports those odds.
Edit: It's not so crazy. They probably got several Heavy Nightmares and a bunch of phoenixes while getting that many bars, so they probably sold those as well and are making quite a bit of profit.
@Mod You can probably close this thread too as it's unlikely to go any further than it already has.
Btw, a "rare quest" that I mentioned a page ago or so would be a quest that only has a chance of appearing after certain criteria has been met. Just a thought.