So I had to remake my GWF or should I say The great NERFED fighter.... First thing I noticed was how much they nerfed so many of his powers and feats I am no longer sure I even want to roll this class anymore...
Just to compile a short list of things I've noticed since BW3, if anyone would care to add anything it is greatly welcomed... All the info I take from the old skills are taken from
this wiki.
-BW3-
Class Feature
Destroyer
Your huge swipes strikes deep, increasing your damage by 3% every time you hit more than 3 enemies with a single attack. Stacks up to 5 times.
-BW4-
Class Feature
Destroyer
Your huge swipes strikes deep, increasing your damage by 2% every time you hit more than 3 enemies with a single attack. Stacks up to 3 times.
At Tier 3 of Destroyer, increases your damage 4% (1% per pt) every time you hit more than 3 enemies. Stacks up to 3 times.
Nerfed 3% at full stacks and can't get the full benefit till lvl 30..
-BW3-
Heroic Feats
Unstoppable Action 5/5
You gain
10/20/30/40/50% bonus Action Points for dealing damage while you are Unstoppable.
Disciple of Strength 3/3
Increase the amount of bonus damage Strength gives you by
5/10/15%
Fast Runner 5/5
Decrease Stamina drain while Sprinting by
5/10/15/20/25%.
Grit 3/3
Gain 1/2/3% of your Max Hit Points in Temporary Hit Points when you are Healed by a power.
(20 second cooldown)
Destroyer Feats
Great Weapon Focus 5/5
Increase the damage of your At-Will powers by
3/6/9/12/15%.
Deep Gash 5/5
Your critical strikes cause your target to Bleed, taking
10/20/30/40/50% of your Power as Damage over 5 seconds.
Focused Destroyer 5/5
Destroyer now has a
20/40/60/80/100% to grant a stack when hitting any number of targets.
Destroyer's Purpose 1/1
You now gain Determination by dealing damage, and Unstoppable also increases your damage by
25%.
-BW4-
Heroic Feats
Unstoppable Action 5/5
You gain
5/10/15/20/25% bonus Action Points for dealing damage while you are Unstoppable.
Disciple of Strength 3/3
Increase the amount of bonus damage Strength gives you by
2/4/6%
Fast Runner 5/5
Decrease Stamina drain while Sprinting by
3/6/9/12/15%.
Grit 3/3
Gain 1/2/3% of your Max Hit Points in Temporary Hit Points when you are Healed by a power.
(40 second cooldown)
Destroyer Feats
Great Weapon Focus 5/5
Increase the damage of your At-Will powers by
2/4/6/8/10%.
Deep Gash 5/5
Your critical strikes cause your target to Bleed, taking
3/6/9/12/15% of your Power as Damage over 5 seconds.
Focused Destroyer 5/5
Destroyer now has a
5/10/15/20/25% to grant a stack when hitting any number of targets.
Destroyer's Purpose 1/1
You now gain Determination by dealing damage, and Unstoppable also increases your
encounter damage by 10%.
It seems like they hardcore nerfed the majority of the Destroyer tree, effectively making deep gash / focused destroyer and destoyer's purpose worthless in comparison to their old stats. Were they really that too over powered to warrant such a nerf? I pretty much don't even want to go GWF anymore at this point as my main focus was based on how good the DPS tree looked but now with all these nerfs, it looks 1/4 as appealing as it was.
A very big disappointment..
And the big cherry on top was removing my favorite encounter ability Punishing Charge from lvl 1 to lvl 45, that pretty much does it for me, time to choose another class and drop this one. I just don't understand how so many changes could be made, making this class go from my favorite to worst.
Terrible changes, Cryptic Studios if you're listening, please at least revert the Punishing Charge change, if at least Punishing Charge is back to lvl 1 i'll still roll the class, but with the combined changes I can't see myself playing this class anymore.
Edit: Pictures to the GNF Power System below
Edit 2:
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/sho...21#post1825321
I also started another thread for a petition to change Punishing Charge back to lvl 1.
For those of you without beta access you can trust us that GWF has got some major mobility issues now that we can't even use Punishing Charge anymore.
A lot of people said it was fine before, I agree that GWF was indeed perfectly fine the way it was, especially regarding Punishing Charge.
If you agree and would at least like to see that power reverted back to the way it was, sign the petition, and thank you.
Comments
They also nerfed all of the GWF powers in terms of dmg.
Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer
Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide
Youtube Channel
http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
Since i'll be starting over from lvl 1, it'll be much easier to give a decent assessment of my findings.
But as I noticed currently at lvl 1...
Sure Strike
(15' Range)(5' Cylinder)
Swing your blades in a series of narrow slashes, followed by a powerful downward slam. Damage is slightly reduced for every target you hit beyond the first.
Is now given to you at lvl 1 instead of Wicked Strike and it NO LONGER hits multiple targets. It seems now that it's a single target DPS move instead of being able to stack mobs close and hit multiple targets, another CRAPPY NERF.
Also,
Punishing Charge
(25' Range) (4' Cylinder) (??s cooldown)
Rush forward, passing through enemies and striking them along the way.
This ability has 3 charges.
Has been switched as your first Encounter Power to
Not So Fast
(13' Burst) (Physical Damage) (15s cooldown)
Release a fast spinning slice to the legs of enemies around you, briefly Slowing them.
Giving you pretty craptastic beginning AOE capabilities..
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Punishing Charge was by far my most favorite and valuable power and was pretty much the main reason why I went GWF because it was one of the starting powers.
Now you can't even access it till lvl 45 and I would have to agree that the mobility of this class feels sooo much slower now, especially with the 10% nerf to sprint consumption, sprint also feels to exhaust a tiny bit faster but in all it feels much slower now.
And not being able to have Punishing Charge to lvl 45 might just kill this class for me officially now.
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Everything does way less damage until you put points into them and you only get a set of new skills once every 5 levels.
At lvl 10 they give you 2 daily powers... WTH am I going to do with 2 daily powers if I can only use 1 at a time (and slot 2 of course..)?
Wouldn't 1 daily power and 1 encounter power rewarded at lvl 10 be more helpful? I'll post a picture of the power tree soon so people can take a look for themselves at the new power system but I really wasn't a big fan of it before and at initial glace, it sucks a lot.
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
/sarcazm off :P
Old "Blood and Sand: Unchained" quest
Played more than 100 000 times!
> TRY IT NOW!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ecy4o6JqLc
I also started another thread for a petition to change Punishing Charge back to lvl 1.
For those of you without beta access you can trust us that GWF has got some major mobility issues now that we can't even use Punishing Charge anymore.
A lot of people said it was fine before, I agree that GWF was indeed perfectly fine the way it was, especially regarding Punishing Charge.
If you agree and would at least like to see that power reverted back to the way it was, sign the petition, and thank you.
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Yes, I will continue to give this thread my feedback.
So far from lvl 1-5, I've already experienced problems with DPS issues in the first 2 missions. The 2nd mission right out of Protector's Enclave when you have to go to the catacombs, I was experiencing problems with low DPS and only having Sure Strike & Not So Fast to start with (instead of Wicked Strike & Punishing Charge), I was having some problems maneuvering and trying to DPS large groups of mobs.
In the first Catacomb mission, I already found myself having to use 1-2 pots to prevent dying. Never had that issue in BW3 when starting out. Again, this is for testing purposes so no early companions, no green gear from the AH, just leveling with what I get.
I'll let you guys know how the next area plays out.
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Yeah, a huge part of the survival was tied up in the charge.
Wrath - 60 Great Weapon Fighter - Mindflayer
Envy's Guardian Fighter DPS Conqueror Guide
Youtube Channel
http://www.twitch.tv/supjeremiah
I am hearing from a lot of people that GF are now doing comparable damage to the GWF where as in BW3, GWF were doing damage comparable to rogues.
Soooo now tanks are more damage capable to GWF with waaay more survivability? That doesn't sound right at all. And here people were saying there's no more need for Beta Weekends and to just release the game already? Seems to me the game is more broken now than ever as far as GWF is concerned.
As I'm questing from 6-10 I find myself in constant need of potions where as before, I very rarely needed to use potions.
Combined with the fact that I no longer have decent AOE and not having charge, I dodge for <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> now. This class is in desperate need of restoration to it's BW3 form. The class was just as fine as rogues were, but Rogues are still doing the best damage while GWF is down below just above GF...
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?127061-Petition-Please-Revert-Punishing-Charge-Back-To-lvl-1
That by far is the worst change out of everything. Thank you.
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
I have suspicions that maybe GWF were not tuned properly at higher levels and were showing signs of major scaling issues so they over tuned the nerfs not realizing that it would be utterly painful at lower levels.
Already from lvl 1-11 it has been extremely slow and painful. Sure Strike is doing pathetic damage at this point, 20-80 damage. At lvl 11, the Battle Tested and Torturer Orcs take so long to kill, the game isn't even fun to play anymore.
I had to cave in and get my hands on some green items, but even then it's still painfully slow.
Lvl 1-20 in BW3 the fun meter was 100/100
Lvl 1-20 in BW4 the fun meter has gone to -50/100
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."