You are only focusing on a single aspect of each class. The rogue is designed to do alot of damage to a single opponent. The gwf is designed to be more of a aoe or crowd control class. The rogue has lighter armor and fewer hp than the gwf. They balance out if you look at the whole picture.
Rogue: High single target damage, low aoe damage, low AC, and low HP.
Gwf: Low single target damage, high aoe damage, mid range AC, and high HP.
I'd like to point out that in D&D Rogues are known for their sneak attack and flanking damage >.>. That 1d4 Dagger turns into a 1d4 + 10d6 for 3.5, or 1d4 + 5d6 for 4th edition. That's not including the other benefits they may have.
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magsondareMember, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited June 2013
It's always been like this. This cartoon was made in EQ2 back in 2006:
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willsommersMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 103
edited June 2013
It's a balance thing. Something that plagues MMOs. Damage dealing classes have to be balanced no matter how odd it seems.
I can't believe someone still believes this... Though... most opponents wear armour. Of some sorts. A dagger (those we see normally in NWO), isn't going through like a hot knife through butter. The vital areas are protected by brigande, leather, chain or plate. Try inflict serious damage 1 on 1 with an armed opponent with protection in that flourish manner.
Katanas... where to begin... tsk tsk tsk... Every sword that is used is sharp. The european swords were just as sharp as katanas for the purpose of slicing through flesh and weaker armour. The only armour able to withstand that are armour of chainmail (to some extent) and plate armour (breastplate, scale, banded and full plate). A 8 to 10 foot blade will cut you in half much easier than a katana ever will. They aren't very weighty either, with a max around 8lbs (3,6kg). Hell, even my replica onehanded sword is as heavy as that. Edit: I actually found 1 (ONE) sword that weighted in at 13lbs (5,92kg), but most were around 8lbs, though the lightest in that list was only 3,3lbs (1.52kg) heavy, 62,5" (159cm )long. End edit:
Suffice to say, A twohanded sword (greatsword) is equally capable of defeating one opponents, as a swarm. So, you won't be knocked aside by a greatsword (unless you are in full plate), you will be cut, if not in half, then very much into whatever part you are hit at. A greatsword or a longsword, both will always trumph a brittle katana, made from inferior iron. Both of those weapons are tons more versatile then a simple katana.
Off T: I wonder why they don't give both fighter classes (as of now) full plate armour. It would make more sense to give the GWF full plate armour. The evolution of thick armour made the shield redundant for protection in a fight, and allowed for the use of both hands in battle.
So, as we can see, a greatsword (or greatweapon for the games sake) would be a one shot (one hack) kill, provided the blow is landed on the opponent, and in Neverwinter, one hit kills on standard opponents with greatweapons weren't impossible. But I can see how this is not always viable in an MMORPG. Especially if we are gonna have classes interact. TR could have their damage done like that if opponents were distracted by another foe, for example another PC or a companion.
Jesus, you need to get laid....
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ator22Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 4Arc User
Besides getting laid, he is wrong about the quality of steel. Japanese steel and their style of manufacture was far superior for cutting and strength.
Yet completely ineffective against even chain mail as they were not designed for such armor (one may as well hit someone with their purse instead). This is something people often forget when comparing weapons/armor and that is they were designed for what was encountered on the battlefield. Also, do not fall into the romantic notions that sword smiths took months/years to complete a single sword as the math of that proves to be entirely dubious.
For a Japanese Sword? Yes it could take up to several months to complete if they were to do it properly due to the folding process, followed by the polishing process. That wasn't the case for Europe because they relied more on molds and mass production in the later years as they were needed right away.
Yep. The higher quality of metal that europeans had access to allowed them to make blades of equivalent quality much faster. For fine-quality japanese blades, the folding required to mitigate the impurities took a significant amount of time.
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What he said.
Jesus, you need to get laid....
Besides getting laid, he is wrong about the quality of steel. Japanese steel and their style of manufacture was far superior for cutting and strength.
Yet completely ineffective against even chain mail as they were not designed for such armor (one may as well hit someone with their purse instead). This is something people often forget when comparing weapons/armor and that is they were designed for what was encountered on the battlefield. Also, do not fall into the romantic notions that sword smiths took months/years to complete a single sword as the math of that proves to be entirely dubious.