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krubar
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I confess. I am a altaholic (someone who makes lots of alternate characters in a game). Earlier in the week, I decided to play neverwinter nights and neverwinter nights 2 (even skipped college classes for a week to play them). Those are awesome games for the altaholic. If you have never tried those games and you think you are a altaholic, go try them. You can make characters for hours and days and never find just the right character build to play. I have been working on monk builds and monk/warlok builds. Also cleric/weapon master and favored soul/weapon master. And I have tried various builds dual wielding or single weapon.
I have just gotta ask. Will this new neverwinter be nearly as good a game for a altaholic?
I have just gotta ask. Will this new neverwinter be nearly as good a game for a altaholic?
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At launch, there will really only be 5 different "builds" to play. You are not creating a character when you play NW, but you are instead playing a pre-existing build.
Now there are a few choices you can make while leveling up, and hopefully they will add more in before launch (currently you have a choice of 2 stat selections when you start..but the different is very minor).
What you do get a choice of, is what powers you use in combat. This is more of an action game (Based on DND 4th edition) then a build your own character rpg type game. That being said you do customize your character as you level up with:
Equipment (various bonuses available on all pieces)
Companion (nice variety of companions with different powers/abilities)
Power choices (every character gets the same choices, but which you use is up to you. Also the paragon system later on will offer some variety)
Minor stat changes (I believe each character has the ability to boost 2 stats twice by level 60 (you also get levels where all stats are boosted by 1, but 5 times you choose the bonus).
There may be more options once the game goes live as well, but I also played NWN and many other D&D games (Like Dungeons and dragons online), and the character customization of those games is WAAAY better (at least so far).
I'm hoping in the long term that will change.
Even so, I played in the last weekend beta and the game was quite fun. It does have a good D&D theme, and it's action combat is quite fun and even skill based (player skill that is). I too love making new characters of various types, and I will certainly miss that ability, but.....NW is quite a fun MMO....better then many other ones out there you have to pay for. I bought a founders pack already and think it is well worth the money.
At this time there are no builds. You will have a choice of a Trickster Rogue, Guardian Fighter, Devoted Cleric, Control Wizard and Two Handed Weapon Fighter. The feats/powers/skills are *mostly* a predetermined path that you can only decide which to have active at any given time.
Now this may change as the game goes live (The devs have stated they would *like* to add more options), but as things stand now it will not be like you are thinking.
More classes/templates will be added after live as well as more races.
We don't know that yet babykin. You currently only get 2 slots but they are looking at how many they will give on release still. Hopefully it's going to be more then 2.
This game is very similar in many ways to TERA...which I tried the other day. I was not a huge fan of TERA to be honest, but the combat is similar, many of the hotkeys are set up the same naturally, and the pay to play system currently in effect seems similar to what NW might end up with.
Sadly TERA does start you with only 2 character slots, so that does make it more likely NW will as well.
I'd personally suggest 3 as an absolute minimum, since it will give players a chance to have 2 primary characters and an extra slot to try out new classes when they come out. Even if those classes need to be paid for normally, having an extra slot could allow for a weekends pass on the new class so players could try it (making it more likely they would buy it).
Only having 2 char slots really restricts players ability to try different classes and determine which ones they like. It's a bad decision in TERA as well, since I created a warrior and archer, but to try the other classes and see if I want to play them (and especially spend money on another slot) I would have to delete one of my two characters. Takes a much larger investment by the player to purchase another character slot for a class they don't know if they like yet.
..."babykin"...dafuq?
You have a quote on them looking at adding more?
The game is really really fun!
Avatar customization (How you look) is pretty good and we expect it to get better. It is way better than say DDO but not quite as robust as Champions Online or Star Trek Online (cryptics other 2 games). I did have dye for my armor in the first Beta so I *KNOW* that functionality is in the game.
Crafting/item modification/etc. has been stated as being in the game but was not in the first Beta.
Just wait for game to release and buy character slots then (they'll be sold for sure)...they won't be too expensive, probably about $8-$10 a pop. You don't have to camp names or anything on game release because of the @handle thing letting us make any name we want.
I think I am GURU enough to answer this question.
At launch 3 options:
5 character if you buy VIP Hero of North package that costs you 199$!
It has other benefits like BETA acces of course.
Lesser BETA access whatever name it had that costs roughly 59$ 3 character slots and BETA access
FREE ACCOUNT
2 Character slots...
However it has been confirmed that you can buy with ZEN virtual currency more Character slots. You can also earn it by playing the game a lot.
At this point I don't know how you earn ZEN in endgame or high level content. The first BETA weekend only gave access to first 30 level content.
I have seen from PRESS Beta Videos that there are 3 kind of Events(that are not meant for some lame level 1 st character they have minimum level requirements!)
PvP Event: PvE Dungeon PvE special Quest
Reward Astral Diamonds Reward Epic items Reward lots of EXP
Now this system at the beginning 30 first levels benefits a HARDCORE(player that play a lot!) player that likes lot of PvP! With PvP you get Astral Diamdons. With lots of AD you can either buy a little bit ZEN or items directly from AD Vendors in the game.
It is a long and hard way to earn a character slot I think. Earn huge amount of Astral Diamonds and then convert it to ZEN and buy a character slots. However we have seen NOTHING of endgame. It might be that in ENDGAME you could even earn directly ZEN or bigger amounts of Astral Diamonds.
You don't get any slots at all from the Guardian pack.
Here's why:
HotN Pack gives 3 extra character slots, bringing the total to 5, which allows those who bought this pack to have one of each class at launch. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to give players more than 5 total at launch as they hope they will buy more slots for added classes later.
But...
It might be feasible to add 1 more free slot, giving the HotN players 6 total, allowing them to have a free slot to use for the next released class after launch, which I think is a much better plan as they feel they are getting a little more value from the pack.
3 Seems to be the right amount for me, it will allow me to select my main (Trickster) and test the other classes without needing to delete one if I level it to level 15-20 (This to me seems to be the level range which you know for sure if you enjoy playing a class or not, at last for other games it has been). If I enjoy it and decide to keep it I have 1 slot left for testing the other classes without giving up my level 15-20 2nd class.
So...it's probably going to be 2 but I hope it's 3.
You're right, so that's something.
Well on my computer on this website here and says you get 1 extra slot. :P
Go for it. I'd prefer to keep my $200 to buy things I want bit by bit.
3 EXTRA CHARACTER SLOTS
750,000 ASTRAL DIAMONDS
http://nw.perfectworld.com/founderspack/guardian
1 EXTRA CHARACTER SLOT
125,000 ASTRAL DIAMONDS
However what I don't know is Hero of the North cumulative with Guardian Pack? I mean can you really get 5+1 = 6 character slots or in worse case they overlap. I think a dev or a super GURU even better then me might answer that.
Yeah they'll be cumulative. You can buy as many Adventurer Helper packs as you want, 1 character slot in each one (all cumulative). Basically you could buy 100 character slots if you really wanted.
Wouldn't bother waiting for a supermod to answer - this is common sense.
I played WOW for 3.5 years. It is very rare, but I did meet couple players that really had alcohol problems. They were often drunk when they played WOW PvP.
Now where might a player that is addicted to booze and low economy turn to when WOW is expensive game. Neverwinter will have PvP content also and is totally FREE. You will get all the "best" players... seriously alcohol problems is nothing to laugh at and there are even players that have alcohol problems.
lolwut. Altaholic vs alcoholic
And if you met people's alts you could well have met a lot less people than you think.
My server did of course not have 12 million players, but it was a very busy server i.e filled to about maximum capacity.
Sorry, my eyes are shot...I really need new glasses. I apologize for messing up your name.
At most, new slots will cost $20 (since the hero's pack is that much I think and it comes with other stuff too).
Which means if you paid $20 a month you could quickly have 5 character slots (3 months in), or just pay $60 all together to start off with 5 slots.
You don't need more then 5 slots btw at launch, since there will only be 5 classes and there isn't much you can do to customize them differently really (maybe with paragon levels there will be a bit more...but probably not worth playing another up).
I REALLY wouldn't suggest buying both founders packs. Stick with the Heroes pack (best value supposedly), or alternatively go with a Guardian pack and 2 adventurers packs (still get 5 character slots but it costs you $100 instead of $200).
But honestly, don't buy anything else other then whichever founders pack you want for now, then just buy whatever you want/need once the number of char slots at launch is determined etc. $200 alone is enough to pay for a years worth of content on an MMO (or should be), so any investing you do past that.....should be done for things you really want.
Eh no worries, it just looked like you were getting extra friendly with me is all
Adventurer's Helper packs are a bunch of items that certainly don't give Extra character Slots and that are included in the Founder packs.
The Neverwinter Starter pack doesn't give any Extra Character Slot and you can buy as many as you want per account.
Guardian of Neverwinter pack gives one Extra Character Slot and can be bought only once per account.
Hero of the North pack gives three Extra Character Slots and can be bought only once per account.
I read somewhere in the beta forums that Guardian and Hero stack in terms of character slots.