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wildheartz12wildheartz12 Member Posts: 17 Arc User
edited February 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Why would they have 3 different elf races ? Why not have 1 elf race and 2 other totally different ones ?
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  • elveelve Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 336
    edited January 2013
    Why would they have 3 different elf races ? Why not have 1 elf race and 2 other totally different ones ?

    Um... you know that you are complaining that you have 2 human races instead of 2 other human races, don't you?
  • bluesteel8bluesteel8 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    elve wrote: »
    Um... you know that you are complaining that you have 2 human races instead of 2 other human races, don't you?

    Lol this is true, well put.
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  • bejita231bejita231 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Because they are unoriginal, and scary races might scare away all the casual pew pew gamer they are trying to attract
  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    I can't honestly think about a better line up. The only missing race is Genasi, which i hope will be released soon (and this is where my money will go).

    Some people could also miss 1/2 orc, but it (imho) has little consistency with NW lore in general... i'm glad they're not in the game.
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  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    Why would they have 3 different elf races ? Why not have 1 elf race and 2 other totally different ones ?
    These are standard races within the Forgotten Realms. More so than that, these are the most populous races within the Forgotten Realms. On that note, in my opinion the race list would be bad if it didn't contain all the races it has now. Besides, they have said time and time again, they will continue adding new Races and Classes because they are really only limited to what Races and Classes are in the Forgotten Realms as playable races, that WotC allows and wants in the game.
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    For FR races post Abeir merge, check "Lore" in my signature and click on "Races" in index of the first post.
    denkasaeba wrote: »
    I can't honestly think about a better line up. The only missing race is Genasi, which i hope will be released soon (and this is where my money will go).

    Some people could also miss 1/2 orc, but it (imho) has little consistency with NW lore in general... i'm glad they're not in the game.

    You missed dragonborn!

    I understand they are confusing to classify as mammals or reptilia - but hey! don't hate them :p
  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    gillrmn wrote: »
    You missed dragonborn!

    I understand they are confusing to classify as mammals or reptilia - but hey! don't hate them :p

    Trust me, i love them. I just don't really see them as a FR race :(
    Dilige, et quod vis fac (Love, and do what you will)

    St. Augustinus
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    denkasaeba wrote: »
    Trust me, i love them. I just don't really see them as a FR race :(

    Well they are Abeir race, so now they are FR race by default. They even got their own city Tymanthar now (think it was near Cormyr somewhere). So they are a relatively new arrival, and now a part of FR too.

    A dragonborn NPC also plays a large part in NW storyline - I mean PnP storyline.
  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    gillrmn wrote: »
    A dragonborn NPC also plays a large part in NW storyline - I mean PnP storyline.

    I know, i own the book ^^ This doesn't change the fact that i find them a little alien to Faerun in general. Imho, naturally. I've played a dragonborn dragonsorc for 5 months and i loved every session with the big guy.
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  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    denkasaeba wrote: »
    I know, i own the book ^^ This doesn't change the fact that i find them a little alien to Faerun in general. Imho, naturally. I've played a dragonborn dragonsorc for 5 months and i loved every session with the big guy.

    They do need a better origin as Io is not in FR so the story does not fits that well - also considering Tiamat and Bahamut are not that powerful. But the new lore after spellplague is scattered - as if spellplague itself scattered all the info in different books and made it confusing.

    I like how in 3e, buying just one book would clear all confusions - like Faiths and Pantheons.
  • zebularzebular Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 15,270 Community Moderator
    edited January 2013
    I want Half-Dragons... I couldn't care any more or less about dragonborn specifically.
  • denkasaebadenkasaeba Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    gillrmn wrote: »
    They do need a better origin as Io is not in FR so the story does not fits that well - also considering Tiamat and Bahamut are not that powerful. But the new lore after spellplague is scattered - as if spellplague itself scattered all the info in different books and made it confusing.

    3e was better lorewise. IIRC Tiamat (and Bahamut, for what he's worth) is kinda powerful in the Chessenta- Chondath zone. Unfortunately it's a little too far.
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    St. Augustinus
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    denkasaeba wrote: »
    3e was better lorewise. IIRC Tiamat (and Bahamut, for what he's worth) is kinda powerful in the Chessenta- Chondath zone. Unfortunately it's a little too far.

    Bahamut is stronger than Tiamut now. She is just a servant/side-mistress of Bane now. :p

    Their lore is tied to that dragon star thingy which was described in Realm of the Elves book (the story, traitor? iirc)

    Then later that star with ritual was destroyed, giving Tiamat an oppurtunity to recollect the dragons and bring in an age of dragons.

    However, she failed (I think Cormyr killed her eggs - but its faint having read it long ago)

    So Bahamut having allied with Torm and Illmater is part of Torm's trinity - but Tiamat is licking her wounds as she is very weak.
  • kheallerkhealler Member Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    My favorite D&D races will never find their way in this game; Kender from Dragonlance, Mul from Darksun and Thri-Kreen. Or wait maybe Mr T wants to play a Mul Mohawk!
  • muzrub333muzrub333 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    So we have confirmed:

    Human
    Half-Elf
    Elf
    Dwarf
    Drow
    Tiefling
    Halfing
    (from video)

    Missing:

    Common:
    Genasi
    Dragonborn


    Uncommon:
    Aasamar
    Half-Orc
    Gnome
    Goliath
    Lycanthropes
    Shifter


    I'm sure I missed a few other uncommon, and possibly a common PC race, but over all, I think NW's starting (confirmed) races look pretty good.

    From a personal perspective, I'd love to see Goliath, and Half-Orcs introduced, either at launch or soon thereafter. I like to play "monstrous" races. I really like Sharakim, but don't think they make any FR appearances
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    muzrub333 wrote: »
    So we have confirmed:
    ...
    Uncommon:
    Aasamar
    ...

    Do not exist anymore (if Aasimar you mean)

    EDIT: Infact, never existed - just a myth now, their existence.
  • lanessar13lanessar13 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Silverstars Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Eh, there's always the Fey'ri.
  • shiaikashiaika Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    gillrmn wrote: »
    Do not exist anymore (if Aasimar you mean)

    EDIT: Infact, never existed - just a myth now, their existence.
    I'm sorry with Aasimar fans but I do prefer Deva so... hoping for seeing them in game Soon™ XD
  • barkynbarkyn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    elves attract many different types of people. females, anime cultists, the guy who has to have that (pretty character) and more of a younger audience. they are crucial for making mmos successful so the more elves and elf races...the better the game

    ...

    ...

    I just cant stand elves :P
    "Just because im short and stumpy doesnt mean im not fast and nimble. my thirst for treasure keeps me...shall we say...more athletic than most dwarves" Dakoldin Quiverbeard (Dwarven Ranger)
  • gillrmngillrmn Member Posts: 7,800 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    shiaika wrote: »
    I'm sorry with Aasimar fans but I do prefer Deva so... hoping for seeing them in game Soon XD

    (How are people able to get special chars in their post?)

    +1 for Devas.

    I guess it is not off-topic here, so I post this:-

    Devas are cool!
    deva_zpsafda55dc.jpg

    p.s. she is just back after destroying a city of blasphemers, causalities, 9000.
  • muzrub333muzrub333 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    gillrmn wrote: »
    Do not exist anymore (if Aasimar you mean)

    EDIT: Infact, never existed - just a myth now, their existence.

    Wow cool. (I never liked em')

    I guess I forgot Eladrin unless they just went back to being plain old elves.
  • shiaikashiaika Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    barkyn wrote: »
    I just cant stand elves :P
    Sit them.:p
    Adding another elf race (as playable race) is cheaper than adding a dragonborn, for example. No need of new 3D model, new animations, no need to worry about gear that may need to be adjusted,... Just give them some different textures!!! ;)
  • xearrikxearrik Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    They should add the only Eberron race I want, the Kalashtar! Come on, you can have them make it over into this realm with all their psionic awsomeness!

    Da kitties now demand dis az well! Stare into dear eyez...

    DM: Roll your saves.
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    I'll Keep this up till beta goes live. I'll improve it soon.
  • shiaikashiaika Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    gillrmn wrote: »
    (How are people able to get special chars in their post?)
    Alt codes. Alt + 0153 --> ™

    Edit: that pic reminds me of Sacred's Seraphin :o
  • muzrub333muzrub333 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    shiaika wrote: »
    Alt codes. Alt + 0153 --> ™

    Edit: that pic reminds me of Sacred's Seraphin :o

    /Gasp What have you done?! With that power Gillrmn will be nigh unstoppable! It was never meant for the hands of man!
  • iamtruthseekeriamtruthseeker Member, Moonstars, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I want my Eladrin here too, since I know they didn't make it into D&D NEXT!
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  • shiaikashiaika Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Silverstars Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I want my Eladrin here too, since I know they didn't make it into D&D NEXT!
    I know it's off topic but... then what's up in FR with them? Rollback? Did Gnomes make it in this time?:p
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