Xsyon?? Never heard of that.... and Mortal online ... wow.... Mortal Online.... i mean why would you throw those games in the discution ?....... These games were totally bad.
WoW is not that great imo, too many expansions, money kinda is too easy to get, and its so frigging overrated and some people think thats its more important than life and buddys!
Silverspar, i don't know where you are coming from or what experience you have with MMORPG but ... The best game to have ever existed were UO, dark age of camelot and EQ and let's not forget WOW ( wow was the most popular but not the greatest in my point of view ). And those game were all...hmm.... YA ! PVP games. Except for EQ who was really freaking heavy on lore !!! Great old day's.
Sorry, but you are wrong. They had PvP elements. UO's popularity went up after Trammel was introduced, while EQ had a larger player base. Dark Age of Camelot was not a PvP game, PvP was an afterthought for a long time, it just happened to be good. It was a huge PvE game like any other PvE game. WoW is a pure theme park PvE game. The PvP is and always was horrendous in WoW.
Oh and obviously you missed I was a PK Hunter in UO since 97. I can tell you never actually played those games to begin with. All you are doing is making up facts that aren't even true.
I didn't play those game ?haha Nice try dude. Daoc wasnt a pvp game !? Ok .. ha...hahaa....AHHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA. Try again Carebear detected.
Oh and just so you know, i am part of IPY 2.0 system devlopers.... So i have hard time accepting the fact someone telling me i don't know what UO is etc etc.
I didn't play those game ?haha Nice try dude. Daoc wasnt a pvp game !? Ok .. ha...hahaa....AHHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA. Try again Carebear detected.
Hardly, but yes, I can tell you never played those games. You can try and talk all you want, but you really are a poser. You were the type of person that talks big and I killed regularly on the field.
Nice try, trying to claim you are part of something to.
I didn't play those game ?haha Nice try dude. Daoc wasnt a pvp game !? Ok .. ha...hahaa....AHHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA. Try again Carebear detected.
Oh and just so you know, i am part of IPY 2.0 system devlopers.... So i have hard time accepting the fact someone telling me i don't know what UO is etc etc.
First, its Anglomyr, ''Anglo''myr, not Aglomyr
and i see little fail trolling out there
Hehe i see what you are trying to do.... It is all you got huh ? Mister i am against PvP , provoking the PVPer with poems and letters... Keep going CAREBEAR master.
Hehe i see what you are trying to do.... It is all you got huh ? Mister i am against PvP , provoking the PVPer with poems and letters... Keep going CAREBEAR master.
I'm tempted to call some Trens to deal with this troublemaker
Yes, because I found you out and see through your attempt at claiming to be something you aren't. You can claim whatever you like, but it's quite obvious you're one of the WoW carebears who only read about the "good old days" without actually being there and then claiming anyone who does have knowledge about the games as a carebear, despite I love PvP and the fact I participate in it regularly. Just the fact I know when a game isn't going to have it and isn't even focused on it, nor am I deluded enough to make believe PvP is something a huge number of MMOers are actually after.
Sorry, but you are wrong. They had PvP elements. UO's popularity went up after Trammel was introduced, while EQ had a larger player base. Dark Age of Camelot was not a PvP game, PvP was an afterthought for a long time, it just happened to be good. It was a huge PvE game like any other PvE game. WoW is a pure theme park PvE game. The PvP is and always was horrendous in WoW.
Oh and obviously you missed I was a PK Hunter in UO since 97. I can tell you never actually played those games to begin with. All you are doing is making up facts that aren't even true.
I played UO about 3 months after it came out and the PKrs soured me on UO and PvP.
I never went back to UO and it took years for me to try PvP again.
I will play PvP (SWTOR & WoT) now but do not want PvP in a PvE game added as an after thought.
I tried UO once, seemed good but then lost password to my character and some kind of bug in my PC didnt allow me to make new one even when i was 100% sure name wasnt taken as it was total blabbering GTDGUDIGHDJDHGI....etc etc
Alright Silverspar, you are the real deal. Now according to my post, you have to come up with a great system for PvP, for open world PvP. We are all listening to your great wisdom and experience in games. Let's see what your greater intelligence can come up with. Stop trying to discredit me for i don't know what cause seriously.... I could care less, i really want ideas about what a great systems would be for you Ty sir for your futur enlightment
Alright Silverspar, you are the real deal. Now according to my post, you have to come up with a great system for PvP, for open world PvP. We are all listening to your great wisdom and experience in games. Let's see what your greater intelligence can come up with. Stop trying to discredit me for i don't know what cause seriously.... I could care less, i really want ideas about what a great systems would be for you Ty sir for your futur enlightment
Well I for one trust that Silverspar gets better ideas and systems what you do if Silverspar wants to. You sir are pathetic *spit*
Anglomyr, why don't you give us your ideas about a great systems also instead of wasting your saliva on me ? That is why i created that post, to get peoples idea about a systems and nothing else. You can defend your little mermaid Silverspar as much as you want and hug him alot...all i really want, is to know what kind of open world pvp systems, if there is to have open world pvp, you would like to see ? You have any ideas ?
Yes, because I found you out and see through your attempt at claiming to be something you aren't. You can claim whatever you like, but it's quite obvious you're one of the WoW carebears who only read about the "good old days" without actually being there and then claiming anyone who does have knowledge about the games as a carebear, despite I love PvP and the fact I participate in it regularly. Just the fact I know when a game isn't going to have it and isn't even focused on it, nor am I deluded enough to make believe PvP is something a huge number of MMOers are actually after.
Umm if the pvp player base is so small why is it that every mmo has included pvp as a big feature to get players to play their game. Most mmos these days have pvp in it in some form. Please give a list of mmos that is stictly pve centered with no pvp elements in them. EQ2 made this mistake when they came out with no pvp servers thinking thier playerbase didnt want pvp in the game, alot players left EQ2 to WOW for that reason.
Anglomyr, why don't you give us your ideas about a great systems also instead of wasting your saliva on me ? That is why i created that post, to get peoples idea about a systems and nothing else. You can defend your little mermaid Silverspar as much as you want and hug him alot...all i really want, is to know what kind of open world pvp systems, if there is to have open world pvp, you would like to see ? You have any ideas ?
I'm not idealist and about that false thing like ''little mermaid Silverspar'' proves how pathetic you are ALSO in trolling, geez i know dozen of more annoying people who actually know how to troll
Just trying to add some meaningful input here.
Some sort of open-world PvP could work, taking on the ideas from several other MMOs. I'll just list a few that comes to mind:
PvP zones - Post Spellplague Neverwinter is an apocalyptic region. Maybe have the cities and a couple of the more traveled areas such as caravan paths, trading hubs, outlying fields, etc. be PvP-free zones. Then have the more dangerous areas, like deep inside a forest be a lawless zone and thus have open PvP. In one MMO I've played, the open PvP maps are coincidentally, the best spots to level. This attracts huge attentions to PKers, PK hunters, and non PvPers willing to take the risk.
Monitored PK system - Have something in place that would encourage players to be active PK hunters. I posted in another thread about a bounty system where players could post bounties on PK offenders.
Level restriction - Make it so you can only PK someone at least x levels below you.
I'm not idealist and about that false thing like ''little mermaid Silverspar'' proves how pathetic you are ALSO in trolling, geez i know dozen of more annoying people who actually know how to troll
Ok Aglomyr, stop spamming my thread. I ask you a simple question: What systems for open world PVP would you like to see in place ? You have nothing to say? Go somewhere else, thank you sir for your maturity.
Just trying to add some meaningful input here.
Some sort of open-world PvP could work, taking on the ideas from several other MMOs. I'll just list a few that comes to mind:
PvP zones - Post Spellplague is an apocalyptic world. Maybe have the cities and a couple of the more traveled areas such as caravan paths, trading hubs, outlying fields, etc. be PvP-free zones. Then have the more dangerous areas, like deep inside a forest be a lawless zone and thus have open PvP.
Monitored PK system - Have something in place that would encourage players to be active PK hunters. I posted in another thread about a bounty system where players could post bounties on PK offenders.
Level restriction - Make it so you can only PK someone at least x levels below you.
Thank you for your input. It all make sens and would give good opportunity for non pk players to chase down who they hate.
i would add to your ideas some Guild wars and guild keeps that you can capture that give you some bonuses, like crafting etc.
Ok Aglomyr, stop spamming my thread. I ask you a simple question: What systems for open world PVP would you like to see in place ? You have nothing to say? Go somewhere else, thank you sir for your maturity.
Other persons left this thread earlier, im just staying here and still its Anglomyr, not Aglomyr, please write it right and I might go away
Umm if the pvp player base is so small why is it that every mmo has included pvp as a big feature to get players to play their game. Most mmos these days have pvp in it in some form. Please give a list of mmos that is stictly pve centered with no pvp elements in them. EQ2 made this mistake when they came out with no pvp servers thinking thier playerbase didnt want pvp in the game, alot players left EQ2 to WOW for that reason.
They have PvP in them but they are not the focus. Having a PvP option in an MMO does not make it a PvP game. Adding PvP to games is at best just paying lipservice to those people at best. And while PvPers still try to believe they make up the largest portion of MMO gamers, the statistics prove otherwise.
Your reason why people left EQ2 is also hyperbole. But this also falls into the belief that people believe that EQs fanbase was large enough to rival WoW's which is false.
What is the facet most games pay attention to, even WoW and SWTOR? The PvE. The PvP only gets what amounts to lip service from patch to patch, enough to quell the biggest whiners and that's about it. And sometimes something big happens, and PvP might get a big boost for one patch out of an entire years worth of updates in WoW or SWTOR. Hell WoW only gets any major pvP updates now with expansions just to provide that lip service, everything else is balances to problems they created or minor tweaks to make it look like they are doing something.
They have PvP in them but they are not the focus. Having a PvP option in an MMO does not make it a PvP game. Adding PvP to games is at best just paying lipservice to those people at best. And while PvPers still try to believe they make up the largest portion of MMO gamers, the statistics prove otherwise.
Your reason why people left EQ2 is also hyperbole. But this also falls into the belief that people believe that EQs fanbase was large enough to rival WoW's which is false.
What is the facet most games pay attention to, even WoW and SWTOR? The PvE. The PvP only gets what amounts to lip service from patch to patch, enough to quell the biggest whiners and that's about it. And sometimes something big happens, and PvP might get a big boost for one patch out of an entire years worth of updates in WoW or SWTOR. Hell WoW only gets any major pvP updates now with expansions just to provide that lip service, everything else is balances to problems they created or minor tweaks to make it look like they are doing something.
Ok if thats true, then why is the next upcoming big mmo Guildwars 2 going to have pvp as its big focus, with a world vs world pvp map with keeps in them. Companies wouldnt be doing this if there was no market for pvp, Neverwinter was not going to have pvp in it, wonder why that changed.
I think you shouldn't rage so much dude, even when i am annoying its my lifejob
Aglomyr, i don't rage at all :P We probably will end up friend and ill put you under my wings so you don't die in PvP. You want to be my personnal crafter son?
Aglomyr, i don't rage at all :P We probably will end up friend and ill put you under my wings so you don't die in PvP. You want to be my personnal crafter son?
Heck no, i suppose that you haven't really checked other threads that much, i dislike PvP, only things what i prefer as PvP in DnD game is Arena and some duels (duels would be good in RP thats why they would be nice as well)
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Sorry, but you are wrong. They had PvP elements. UO's popularity went up after Trammel was introduced, while EQ had a larger player base. Dark Age of Camelot was not a PvP game, PvP was an afterthought for a long time, it just happened to be good. It was a huge PvE game like any other PvE game. WoW is a pure theme park PvE game. The PvP is and always was horrendous in WoW.
Oh and obviously you missed I was a PK Hunter in UO since 97. I can tell you never actually played those games to begin with. All you are doing is making up facts that aren't even true.
Oh and just so you know, i am part of IPY 2.0 system devlopers.... So i have hard time accepting the fact someone telling me i don't know what UO is etc etc.
Hardly, but yes, I can tell you never played those games. You can try and talk all you want, but you really are a poser. You were the type of person that talks big and I killed regularly on the field.
Nice try, trying to claim you are part of something to.
First, its Anglomyr, ''Anglo''myr, not Aglomyr
and i see little fail trolling out there
Just a simple error of typo, i am sorry. And i am not here to troll. But since i love PVP i guess that is what you will conclude
I'm tempted to call some Trens to deal with this troublemaker
I played UO about 3 months after it came out and the PKrs soured me on UO and PvP.
I never went back to UO and it took years for me to try PvP again.
I will play PvP (SWTOR & WoT) now but do not want PvP in a PvE game added as an after thought.
Well I for one trust that Silverspar gets better ideas and systems what you do if Silverspar wants to. You sir are pathetic *spit*
Umm if the pvp player base is so small why is it that every mmo has included pvp as a big feature to get players to play their game. Most mmos these days have pvp in it in some form. Please give a list of mmos that is stictly pve centered with no pvp elements in them. EQ2 made this mistake when they came out with no pvp servers thinking thier playerbase didnt want pvp in the game, alot players left EQ2 to WOW for that reason.
I'm not idealist and about that false thing like ''little mermaid Silverspar'' proves how pathetic you are ALSO in trolling, geez i know dozen of more annoying people who actually know how to troll
Some sort of open-world PvP could work, taking on the ideas from several other MMOs. I'll just list a few that comes to mind:
Ok Aglomyr, stop spamming my thread. I ask you a simple question: What systems for open world PVP would you like to see in place ? You have nothing to say? Go somewhere else, thank you sir for your maturity.
Thank you for your input. It all make sens and would give good opportunity for non pk players to chase down who they hate.
i would add to your ideas some Guild wars and guild keeps that you can capture that give you some bonuses, like crafting etc.
Other persons left this thread earlier, im just staying here and still its Anglomyr, not Aglomyr, please write it right and I might go away
Aglomyr, you are the imminent reason why we need PVP.
They have PvP in them but they are not the focus. Having a PvP option in an MMO does not make it a PvP game. Adding PvP to games is at best just paying lipservice to those people at best. And while PvPers still try to believe they make up the largest portion of MMO gamers, the statistics prove otherwise.
Your reason why people left EQ2 is also hyperbole. But this also falls into the belief that people believe that EQs fanbase was large enough to rival WoW's which is false.
What is the facet most games pay attention to, even WoW and SWTOR? The PvE. The PvP only gets what amounts to lip service from patch to patch, enough to quell the biggest whiners and that's about it. And sometimes something big happens, and PvP might get a big boost for one patch out of an entire years worth of updates in WoW or SWTOR. Hell WoW only gets any major pvP updates now with expansions just to provide that lip service, everything else is balances to problems they created or minor tweaks to make it look like they are doing something.
Great now instead of reason why some people need ignore they need PvP, oh the joy
Right on huh !? That's such a nice Sentence for a girl against pvp
I think you shouldn't rage so much dude, even when i am annoying its my lifejob
Ok if thats true, then why is the next upcoming big mmo Guildwars 2 going to have pvp as its big focus, with a world vs world pvp map with keeps in them. Companies wouldnt be doing this if there was no market for pvp, Neverwinter was not going to have pvp in it, wonder why that changed.
Aglomyr, i don't rage at all :P We probably will end up friend and ill put you under my wings so you don't die in PvP. You want to be my personnal crafter son?
Heck no, i suppose that you haven't really checked other threads that much, i dislike PvP, only things what i prefer as PvP in DnD game is Arena and some duels (duels would be good in RP thats why they would be nice as well)