Knox Box

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https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/11502983-the-knox-box
- the free Knox Boxes count towards the weekly limit for the ones in the Wondrous Bazaar
- currently logging through my characters, and i could only exchange 1 Promissory Notes this far and not 3 as "promised"

Well, looks like it's completely broken now. The free Knox Boxes were removed just now, and you can only buy 1 for AD.

jizzu

well what a surprise.
didn't get the double claim last Tuesday or week before, some people got the free knox box today didn't get these either.
Congrats on another job well done.....

regenerde

Well, going by this

https://twitter.com/NeverwinterGame/status/1463558047259770883

i guess some players found a way to claim a ton of Knox Boxes for free before they were deactivated...

Deja vu, didn't something similar happened to the Amazon Prime reward not that long ago? And is that also the reason for not offering any other Amazon Prime reward after that?

Anyway, would be nice to increase the weekly limit from 5 to 25, considering the box will only be around for a week.

thany

Nah. And again i'am late when it comes to exploit.

greywynd

Since they're checking the logs, are you really complaining about being late to the party?

depamina

I hope that all exploiters will get perm ban. I saw a flood of the knox choice packs on AH after the maintenence, multiple from same people and many people were selling in hurry. A lot of people got more than 200m AD from that exploit i think. If they will get away with that and will keep their exploited AD from selling those it will be madness. If it will just be 1 month of ban, I'd gladny exploit it for a month brake with 200m+ AD on my account after the break.

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Well, i'd say they should just roll those players accounts back a day or even a full week depending on how many times they claimed those boxes...

jizzu

my issue isn't about missing "things" as such... it is more about being told game changes are necessary to balance the game, make things more equitable, yada yada instead it seems things like this keep happening which merely seek to make things more inequitable. i am starting to wonder if Boris Johnstone is secretly running cryptic, the levelling up agendas seem to be very similar! (people from UK will understand)
don't particularly take any joy in the thought of people getting banned but do think rolling back accounts on those that profited from this is reasonable.

armadeonx

Yeah I think that rolling back accounts (and) any sales of these items is sufficient action to address this issue that was essentially created by Cryptic's refusal to properly TEST their updates.

They really don't have the player population to be able to afford kicking out dozens/hundreds of players every time Cryptic messes up yet another roll out.

If they really feel the need for 'punishment' on top of 'redress' I'd suggest they go for something less severe than an account ban or long suspension and think along the lines of a suspension from trading on the AH or somesuch.

With Christmas around the corner, suspending active players from NW when lots of new games are being released is really just shooting themselves in the second foot (the first foot was releasing the Knox Box without testing it for a problem they've seen many times before).

thany

They can rollback account if that exploit "reached" only and just only that account. There're many ways how to keep most of that what they got from "exploit" even if they rollback theirs accounts. Only way is rollback of the server. But as we know, that's not gonna happen. That's why i wrote -i'am always late to exploit - because, lately there're no consequences for that/exploits.

johnnystranger

Too late to do anything IMO . Most items have been sold etc . Now all the innocent people whom bought these items from AH would either lose the item or AD or possibly both .
This has happened before with rank 15 enchantments , yet here we are again

regenerde

Well, they have the logs, so removing the AD is not a problem and that's the very least that should be done, i'm also wondering how hard it would be to exclude those accounts from any other promotions for ever...

Now that would be a fitting punishment, exploit gifts and you'll never get another one.

greywynd

Players try that every Winterfest. Never seems to work.

jizzu

it is crazy that they have not realised by now, players don't want things rushed they want it right... and would rather wait few more weeks than this each time!

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greywynd said:

Players try that every Winterfest. Never seems to work.

Well, the Devs/Support could just permanently mark exploiter accounts with a "has received max. amount of [promotional gift]" tag. I mean there're already a lot of account wide counter/limitations in game, so it shouldn't take too much time to develop a for this situation fitting one and let it loose...

greywynd

jizzu#6891 said:

it is crazy that they have not realised by now, players don't want things rushed they want it right... and would rather wait few more weeks than this each time!

Deadlines have to be met to keep management happy. Players don't matter.

mentinmindmaker

People that were able to claim and open a large number of free Knox Boxes can't really claim they did not understand something was bugged. In cases like this it is very obvious something is off.

This is a serious case of intended exploiting.

Just permaban them.

irene

Yes it is bad news. If the overnight rich player could buy everything and keeping it, the rich became richer and things will become more expensive over time. Their actions should be studied and given consequences.

But if they sell everything cheap, then no problem... <-- here it is! selfish comment made by a selfish player

forumaccount

I think they should've rolled the server back when they discovered the exploit and players would only have lost a couple hours of progress. By now it's way to late for that unless they really want to p iss a ton of people off.

I think it would be the best course of action to permanently ban everyone who obviously abused the exploit. But it probably takes time to check the logs and make sure that they don't accidentally ban innocent players.

greywynd

And it's a holiday weekend. So, maybe Monday.

karvare

I thought it was announced that free/AD Knox Boxes were account bound, as was the rewards from them. So, are you saying the rewards from these exploited boxes is not bound?

johnnystranger

> @karvare said:
> I thought it was announced that free/AD Knox Boxes were account bound, as was the rewards from them. So, are you saying the rewards from these exploited boxes is not bound?

I would say they were unbound , we had a guy giving away a ton of stuff . He said he scooped over a 1,000 boxes before was taken away . At the very least , he was sharing the exploits .
AFAIK they were supposed to be bound . That being said , I wasn’t even able to claim one and sit patiently for the box to be reinstated .
Best thing to do is let the non abusers receive 20 boxes lol

jules

mentinmindmaker said:

People that were able to claim and open a large number of free Knox Boxes can't really claim they did not understand something was bugged. In cases like this it is very obvious something is off.

This is a serious case of intended exploiting.

Just permaban them.

This is a serious case of "I will check real quick if they HAMSTER it up again" upon release.



Why is anybody still surprised
Guys, don't take it so seriously anymore before it gives any of ya grey hairs.

jules

regenerde said:

Well, going by this

https://twitter.com/NeverwinterGame/status/1463558047259770883

i guess some players found a way to claim a ton of Knox Boxes for free before they were deactivated...

Deja vu, didn't something similar happened to the Amazon Prime reward not that long ago? .

And to a bunch of other stuff, ye

aureneeshie

Hey Jules - my hair is already grey. No surprise to me at all - btw - Charlie says hi

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Well, will be interesting to see if they can fix the issue with the Knox Box before it's going to be removed again next week.
And oh, look over there, new lockbox incoming with new shiny loot to go after...

rockster

I wonder if there will ever be a release of anything in this game from now-on without an eff-up attached to it.

karvare

Great, so they bugged the free Knox Boxes, did not bind the ones that were exploited, and charged more than was advertised, and the cost was discounted meaning the actual price was 750 not 500 Zen. Any other mistakes other than these three?

mrimsogood

karvare said:

Great, so they bugged the free Knox Boxes, did not bind the ones that were exploited, and charged more than was advertised, and the cost was discounted meaning the actual price was 750 not 500 Zen. Any other mistakes other than these three?

They do this type of stuff intentionally because they know no matter how much they screw up, there will still be players putting money into their pockets.

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Well, you can buy another Knox Box for AD, but only 1 and not the weekly 5 as advertised... just get it before the box is removed again in a few days.