After repeatedly running the expeditions and making 9000% sure I looked in every corner, my absolute best record for finding the magical artifacts is 6/10. I don't know if there's a hidden area I don't know how to open or if they're simply missing,
The expeditions seem rather lazily designed, with "sections" being reused across all of them.
Different monster packs within the same expedition pose wildly differing challenges to the player, some are very easy to kill and others require cheesing with an artifact power due to their health and damage output. The undead 5-packs that have the big guy with the big shield that does the charge are particularly difficult, and as a Barbarian I can't out-DPS the lifestealing beam from demiliches without cheesing it.
Broodmother end-boss is incredibly overtuned. On a level 80 Barbarian in a mixture of the new seal armor and ilvl 840 quest armor she's hitting for 60-70k, and has over 10 million health. The only way I'm able to kill the Broodmother is by cheesing it with the overpowered artifact AND mount power. Other random mobs in some of them are also overtuned. Beholders are capable of 1-shotting me.
Scaling is wonky, I'll be at one HP and power level in one section, go through the blue sparkly gate, and be at a different HP and power level. Small but meaningful difference, roughly a 2-5% fluctuation.
I made it through all the expeditions for the storyline and got to level 80 along the way. In the initial expedition, I missed 2 of the treasures. All the other expeditions I found all treasures.
My issue is at the end of the storyline. I spoke with all the people on the 3rd floor, they all have kept the ??? over their heads and I was not given anything to do...other than collect the crystals for attunement. Is that it?
As all the other campaing interactions there's no lead to next step, after finishing Master Expedition twice i still don't know where to get the cristals... Some lead about that would be nice...
I and others have unlocked the master expeditions quest . I am unable to complete the next quest ( attunement crystal quest ) where I need to get the runic etching as it is supposedly held in the chest at the end of the expedition . The chest is NOT interactable when the expedition is completed , and I have been unable to attune the first crystal either SOLO or in a group of 2 ( likewise for the other player ) . What currency / and or how much is required to be able to attune the crystal . I have the resonator which Sinye says is supposed to automatically convert the runes ( again from the elder rune mini event I assume ) but after running it 3 times there were no further currencies in my inventory . So AGAIN i ask :
What EXACTLY is required in order to be able to attune the crystal at the start of the expedition ????????????????
The runic encounters in the zones (the big glowing spheres with more challenging encounters) give Runic Resonance that you can then convert into Crystallized Resonance at the attunement crystals or from Runemaster Sinyé. The Crystallized Resonance can then be used in the attunement crystals. We'll take a closer look at how we're messaging and introducing that to make sure that connection is clear.
If you have the runic resonator are are not getting the resonance drops from the zones, that's definitely a problem, and I'll take a closer look.
I had ran the encounters 3 times with the resonator in inventory and didn't show any additional currencies / or resonannces in my inventory . I had 2 of the original unstable resonances ( 1 delta , 1 gamma ) remaining from when I created the earlier artifact ( through the auto create option ) . Could these be stopping anything dropping . I have deleted them and I will run some more of the encounters and see if anything drops . How many of these resonances are required in order to be able to actually attune the first crystal and do they show up in the other currencies part of the inventory tab ?
From above , ran another 3 runic encounters and nothing received from the encounters . Asked the others doing it and they hadn't received anything either . So either it's a very small RNG or they haven't been enabled . Requires the closer look into it .
Master expedition, I was fighting the Remorhaz as the final boss. When I got it to around 5% of its health left it disappeared underground and I was stuck in the room with no way to interact with any door to proceed or go back in the dungeon. I tried to "defeat me" to go back and challenge it again, but when I entered the room again it was empty with no way of going forward with the expedition. I was forced to abandon the instance. Also when I did it still counted as if I finished the expedition and I could collect my reward from Obaya Uday
1. Both Expeditions and Master Expeditions are intended to be done solo or as a group - your choice. Attuning more crystals in a Master Expedition will greatly increase the challenge though, so you probably want a group when running with more than one rune. 2. The crystals at the start and the glowing chests at the end are only used in Master Expeditions. 3. To unlock Master Expeditions, speak with Runemaster Sinyé after completing the Neverember's Envoy mission. She's on the second floor of the Yawning Portal near the fireplace.
Hello, I am (and with me others) have tried to complete the "Attunement Crystal" quest… Despite the fact that I have the resonator and a whole bunch fragments from different types in Currency there is no way to fulfill that quest. First step is to use the resonator (Left Crystal) is sparkling white (accessible) Middle and right Crystal sparkles stayed red (Not accessible) after using the resonator in step 1.
How to fix this issue ?
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2. The crystals at the start and the glowing chests at the end are only used in Master Expeditions.
That's fine, but I would then suggest either not showing them or displaying some clearer message when you encounter them during the initial "non-Master" Expeditions. As it is, the messages are quite confusing.
Otherwise there will be an endless flood of "WTF is going on" from new players going through the campaign.
Master expedition, I was fighting the Remorhaz as the final boss. When I got it to around 5% of its health left it disappeared underground and I was stuck in the room with no way to interact with any door to proceed or go back in the dungeon. I tried to "defeat me" to go back and challenge it again, but when I entered the room again it was empty with no way of going forward with the expedition. I was forced to abandon the instance. Also when I did it still counted as if I finished the expedition and I could collect my reward from Obaya Uday
Thanks for reporting this! We're looking at fixing him right now, and I apologize for any inconvenience.
From above , ran another 3 runic encounters and nothing received from the encounters . Asked the others doing it and they hadn't received anything either . So either it's a very small RNG or they haven't been enabled . Requires the closer look into it .
We're taking a closer look at how those are dropping and how we're messaging the runic resources. If you have the resonator and there are no resources dropping from the zone rune encounters, that's definitely a bug and we'll fix that ASAP.
theres a expedition where your sent to a torn world like walking on the roof and walls, i coundn't find a companion that would stay alive there, they just went true the flor and disapear but stay alive there...
The entire idea behind them is great. You know, you can collect Runes, to enhance your experience and all that's great. But the enemies in the dungeon, and the bosses in the dungeon, are so weak and lackluster, just seems like an unfinished model.
I suggest, adding more difficult enemies, that take longer than 1 minute to kill (without any glitches/bugs) A real boss would be great. Maybe some more enemies, to make it seem like a dungeon. I think it would be cool to see Halaster pop up in Expeditions as well, adding effects to players like effects you see in Illusionist Gambit.
Halaster is a powerful wizard, and I feel like a lot of his power isn't displayed in this module... that's kind of sad.
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Can't use Attunement Crystal during Master Expeditions because there seems to be no way to purify and crystallize Resonance. I have the Resonator, the Unstable Resonance and even a Weave-Touched Fragment that I have no idea what is for, but attempting to use any of them prompted a "That item does not go there" message. I'm assuming this is a bug, or am I missing something?
Every person I have talked to in my guild and other channels I am a member of have not been able to get resources or complete the Attunement part of the quest. I am not getting any drops from the zone rune encounters. I have the resonator in my key tab of my inventory and also some left over unstable resonance alpha, beta and others in my currency tab.
Speak with Runemaster Sinyé about Crystallized Resonance. Speak with Runemaster Sinyé about Attunement Crystals. Obtain Runic Etchings from the Master Expedition reward chest. Speak with Obaya about Master Expeditions. Enter and complete a Master Expedition.
This tells me that the needed Etching is located in the reward chest at the end of the expedition. However... The problem is that the chest at the end of the expedition is not accessible after completing this expedition … While it should be accessible when all runes are found, so the Runic Etching can be obtained the chest.
I also have some feedback points.
1. Some mob's are acting static and not reacting on input by engaging me when I come close, its like they are trapped in code loop (this also count for the two big Salamanders (forgot their name, they are stuck on their place)). 2. Some mob's from a group are now and then stuck in a mushroom, they are not targetable and sometimes a door cannot be opened due being in attack mode. 3. End portal is not always appearing, as it should be and being forced to log to character screen and back to get to Yawning Portal
Speak with Runemaster Sinyé about Crystallized Resonance. Speak with Runemaster Sinyé about Attunement Crystals. Obtain Runic Etchings from the Master Expedition reward chest. Speak with Obaya about Master Expeditions. Enter and complete a Master Expedition.
This tells me that the needed Etching is located in the reward chest at the end of the expedition. However... The problem is that the chest at the end of the expedition is not accessible after completing this expedition … While it should be accessible when all runes are found, so the Runic Etching can be obtained the chest.
I also have some feedback points.
1. Some mob's are acting static and not reacting on input by engaging me when I come close, its like they are trapped in code loop (this also count for the two big Salamanders (forgot their name, they are stuck on their place)). 2. Some mob's from a group are now and then stuck in a mushroom, they are not targetable and sometimes a door cannot be opened due being in attack mode. 3. End portal is not always appearing, as it should be and being forced to log to character screen and back to get to Yawning Portal
Thanks for the feedback, finmakin! We're working on a fix for the runic resource messaging and functionality, and I apologize for any inconvenience.
Can you give me a bit more info on the end portal not appearing: - Were you running a Master Expedition? - Were there others in your group? - For those the portal did not appear to, did you have an Expedition mission given by Obaya (either a repeatable or one-off)?
Speak with Runemaster Sinyé about Crystallized Resonance. Speak with Runemaster Sinyé about Attunement Crystals. Obtain Runic Etchings from the Master Expedition reward chest. Speak with Obaya about Master Expeditions. Enter and complete a Master Expedition.
This tells me that the needed Etching is located in the reward chest at the end of the expedition. However... The problem is that the chest at the end of the expedition is not accessible after completing this expedition … While it should be accessible when all runes are found, so the Runic Etching can be obtained the chest.
I also have some feedback points.
1. Some mob's are acting static and not reacting on input by engaging me when I come close, its like they are trapped in code loop (this also count for the two big Salamanders (forgot their name, they are stuck on their place)). 2. Some mob's from a group are now and then stuck in a mushroom, they are not targetable and sometimes a door cannot be opened due being in attack mode. 3. End portal is not always appearing, as it should be and being forced to log to character screen and back to get to Yawning Portal
Thanks for the feedback, finmakin! We're working on a fix for the runic resource messaging and functionality, and I apologize for any inconvenience.
Can you give me a bit more info on the end portal not appearing: - Were you running a Master Expedition? - Were there others in your group? - For those the portal did not appear to, did you have an Expedition mission given by Obaya (either a repeatable or one-off)?
Thanks for your help!
In my groups case on several occasions:
We were running Master Expedition.
There were always two or more members in the group.
When the portal did not appear happened in two scenarios in my experience. 1. I am in a party where the party leader is doing the Master Expedition for the first time and I do not have either quest. In this case I do not get the portal, but the person doing the quest for the first time does. 2. I am in a party where the party leader has the repeatable quest but I do not have either quest. In this case I do not get the portal but the party leader does.
In each scenario anyone without the quest does not get the portal. I have heard of people not getting the portal when they had a different quest than the party leader. The party leader has one-off and party member has repeatable, or the other way around. I have not experienced this myself.
The portal always seems to appear if: 1. Everyone in the group has the exact same quest (either all one off or all repeatable)
I believe the portals in the expeditions have the same shared bug as the Hunt portals upon completion of Barovia hunts where the leader has to leave first before anyone else can on mod 15.
As for the Master expeditions, they're pretty lackluster, and rewards are pretty pathetic for the invested time searching for the relics and clearing out the expedition maps, heck once I completed the two, all you get now are "seals of the mountain" which seem to not have a NPC anywhere to spend them, if anything is even useful from them to begin with, that is. Most of the expedition maps, the mobs get stuck in walls, floors, or on a consistent animation loop and they are invincible, no matter what attack or maxed out artifact is used, or a timed 4 artifact effect from everyone still doesn't work, everyone 20K+ item level, and this little wraith was impossible to kill (this wasn't even using any of the attune relics at beginning, straight "vanilla" master expedition), and like others said, you're stuck in a combat loop, and cannot interact with anything if that happens, so everyone is forced to restart the client, and be forced back to yawning portal to start all over again.
Also the map that seems to spawn you all twisted up and you're either on a wall of a ceiling to start out with, it'll defiantly make you 100% frustrated as your companion has taken a permanent vacation from you entirely (even if you do manage to get to the floor level and everything seems normal, you can re-spawn your companion and it disappears again until you're finished with that expedition), mobs are hidden behind walls, can hurt you, but you cannot hurt them, same issue with being locked into a combat loop and cannot interact with anything in the dungeon. Also, it seems to make everyone suffer a reduction to their overall stats and damage on that map, nearly 5% loss of all stats, including no companion when you do that dungeon (thats if you do not crash halfway through).. which i think that's why people and myself crash on that map when we get it, as that was not intentional. Even as a solo player, our skills being gimped from a comparison from mod 15 til now only being a 1/4 of their potency, the mobs are still fairly easy to kill, and you would think in a "master expedition", with level 80 mobs, it should be a little more challenging, bosses are fun though, but still easily solo-able.
Just seems like it takes more time to search for the relics than clearing the rooms of mobs, and the rewards for completion aren't even worth the time and effort in doing them as you cannot spend any of the seals even if you wanted too at the moment. If you do gain any items aside from seals, the RNG is impossible then. And from what I got before 882 item, still really not worth grinding out for, if all you're going to get are seals you cannot spend. At least Barovia heroics are more challenging and fun to solo and play. Would LOVE to see master expeditions with mobs equivalent to the level of the mobs in Barovia heroics now (i used to frown upon this, but after playing about 14 or more master expeditions solo, i want something more challenging and much better rewards because of it). THAT in itself would make solo play more rewarding then....
Here's a nifty idea.. Say what about creating something like difficulty shards.. going from normal, to hardcore. This way you appease everyone, the higher the difficulty in that overall shard, they better the rng rewards are on those maps within that shard. If people just want to screw around, they dont have to stay in town cause they cannot kill anything, but don't want to team up with anyone. They can just pick a lower difficulty shard, and play around with a much lower chance of drop rates, and minimal gold and other things dropping as it'll be a easier shard to work from.
Speak with Runemaster Sinyé about Crystallized Resonance. Speak with Runemaster Sinyé about Attunement Crystals. Obtain Runic Etchings from the Master Expedition reward chest. Speak with Obaya about Master Expeditions. Enter and complete a Master Expedition.
This tells me that the needed Etching is located in the reward chest at the end of the expedition. However... The problem is that the chest at the end of the expedition is not accessible after completing this expedition … While it should be accessible when all runes are found, so the Runic Etching can be obtained the chest.
I also have some feedback points.
1. Some mob's are acting static and not reacting on input by engaging me when I come close, its like they are trapped in code loop (this also count for the two big Salamanders (forgot their name, they are stuck on their place)). 2. Some mob's from a group are now and then stuck in a mushroom, they are not targetable and sometimes a door cannot be opened due being in attack mode. 3. End portal is not always appearing, as it should be and being forced to log to character screen and back to get to Yawning Portal
Thanks for the feedback, finmakin! We're working on a fix for the runic resource messaging and functionality, and I apologize for any inconvenience.
Can you give me a bit more info on the end portal not appearing: - Were you running a Master Expedition? - Were there others in your group? - For those the portal did not appear to, did you have an Expedition mission given by Obaya (either a repeatable or one-off)?
Thanks for your help!
1. Yes, I was running a Master Expedition. 2. I was grouped with one other player. 3. For both players was it a repeatable.
In my case (I was leader), the member left the expedition before I did (so for him was the portal visible) and when I wanted to leave (after a short chat) there was no portal.
Like Gronknor mentioned about the portals in Barovia hunt (mod 15), where group members are spread up on different maps when they leave before the leader does.. Only in my case (master expedition) the portal went poof.
PS. not needed to apologize for inconvenience, that's a testserver for
So after running the Master Expedition 2x (post patch) I still get the quest "Gather Runic Etching" and there is no way to do that. The instructions in the journal say: "Find these rune altering crystals placed by Halaster while on a Master Expedition. These Attunement Crystals allow you to increase the rewards at a cost." - That's fairly clearly the crystals in the entry area for the Master expedition.
The next paragraph says: "First you will need to convert the Resonance you have collected with the resonator into Crystalized Resonance. Spend Crystalized Resonance to change the Attunement Crystal and alter the treasure within. While on a Master Expedition, locate Runic Etchings." - This appears to be the other function to the crystals in the entrance area, but nothing happens in the conversation.
So the whole thing is impossible to progress in because if they are not the 3 crystals at the start, in half dozens runs (some before some after today's patch) there has never been anything to suggest that the runes existed.
The things there are 9 of in each Expedition don't seem to change anything but the possible rewards Obaya Uday gives out (which are cool while leveling.
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I find it very odd that there are two quests ("Studying Corrupt Runic Magic" and "Unstable Runic Resonance") that have the exact same steps and you do entirely in parallel....no point to that, really.
Hoping for improvements...
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And yes. The issue with the Master Expedition final reward chest did clearly not get fixed in yesterday's patch.
You cannot access the chest after the initial Master Expedition, nor after doing the repeatable one. This is a bit of a showstopper, as it means you cannot complete the "Attunement Crystals" quest, as you cannot get a Runic Etching from the chest. (Or get the Runic Apprentice gear, for that matter).
And yes. The issue with the Master Expedition final reward chest did clearly not get fixed in yesterday's patch.
And yes. rhorndev#7057 has clearly stated that they are working on it, which means that its being fixed in one of the upcoming patches. Iron cannot be broken in pieces with bare hands, and the road to Rome isn't build in one day..
After the patch, I still couldn't attune any crystals, and the chest still could not be opened, on a repeatable master expeditions quest.
So what I did was drop the quest, talked to runemaster lady again to re-accept the quest, now I'm stuck at "talk to 'Obysomthing or other' about master expeditions" task. When I talk to her, I can accept a repeatable master expedition quest, and if I go through every dialog available, it won't complete the task, even after completing a repeatable expedition quest. So I'm stuck at that task now.
After the patch, I still couldn't attune any crystals, and the chest still could not be opened, on a repeatable master expeditions quest.
So what I did was drop the quest, talked to runemaster lady again to re-accept the quest, now I'm stuck at "talk to 'Obysomthing or other' about master expeditions" task. When I talk to her, I can accept a repeatable master expedition quest, and if I go through every dialog available, it won't complete the task, even after completing a repeatable expedition quest. So I'm stuck at that task now.
Sorry about that, quickfoot. We'll get a fix in for that ASAP, and thanks for reporting.
Speak with Runemaster Sinyé about Crystallized Resonance. Speak with Runemaster Sinyé about Attunement Crystals. Obtain Runic Etchings from the Master Expedition reward chest. Speak with Obaya about Master Expeditions. Enter and complete a Master Expedition.
This tells me that the needed Etching is located in the reward chest at the end of the expedition. However... The problem is that the chest at the end of the expedition is not accessible after completing this expedition … While it should be accessible when all runes are found, so the Runic Etching can be obtained the chest.
I also have some feedback points.
1. Some mob's are acting static and not reacting on input by engaging me when I come close, its like they are trapped in code loop (this also count for the two big Salamanders (forgot their name, they are stuck on their place)). 2. Some mob's from a group are now and then stuck in a mushroom, they are not targetable and sometimes a door cannot be opened due being in attack mode. 3. End portal is not always appearing, as it should be and being forced to log to character screen and back to get to Yawning Portal
Thanks for the feedback, finmakin! We're working on a fix for the runic resource messaging and functionality, and I apologize for any inconvenience.
Can you give me a bit more info on the end portal not appearing: - Were you running a Master Expedition? - Were there others in your group? - For those the portal did not appear to, did you have an Expedition mission given by Obaya (either a repeatable or one-off)?
Thanks for your help!
1. Yes, I was running a Master Expedition. 2. I was grouped with one other player. 3. For both players was it a repeatable.
In my case (I was leader), the member left the expedition before I did (so for him was the portal visible) and when I wanted to leave (after a short chat) there was no portal.
Like Gronknor mentioned about the portals in Barovia hunt (mod 15), where group members are spread up on different maps when they leave before the leader does.. Only in my case (master expedition) the portal went poof.
PS. not needed to apologize for inconvenience, that's a testserver for
Thanks for the info finmakin, I'll track that down and get it fixed.
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The expeditions seem rather lazily designed, with "sections" being reused across all of them.
Different monster packs within the same expedition pose wildly differing challenges to the player, some are very easy to kill and others require cheesing with an artifact power due to their health and damage output. The undead 5-packs that have the big guy with the big shield that does the charge are particularly difficult, and as a Barbarian I can't out-DPS the lifestealing beam from demiliches without cheesing it.
Broodmother end-boss is incredibly overtuned. On a level 80 Barbarian in a mixture of the new seal armor and ilvl 840 quest armor she's hitting for 60-70k, and has over 10 million health. The only way I'm able to kill the Broodmother is by cheesing it with the overpowered artifact AND mount power. Other random mobs in some of them are also overtuned. Beholders are capable of 1-shotting me.
Scaling is wonky, I'll be at one HP and power level in one section, go through the blue sparkly gate, and be at a different HP and power level. Small but meaningful difference, roughly a 2-5% fluctuation.
My issue is at the end of the storyline. I spoke with all the people on the 3rd floor, they all have kept the ??? over their heads and I was not given anything to do...other than collect the crystals for attunement. Is that it?
i still don't know where to get the cristals... Some lead about that would be nice...
If you have the runic resonator are are not getting the resonance drops from the zones, that's definitely a problem, and I'll take a closer look.
I had 2 of the original unstable resonances ( 1 delta , 1 gamma ) remaining from when I created the earlier artifact ( through the auto create option ) .
Could these be stopping anything dropping . I have deleted them and I will run some more of the encounters and see if anything drops .
How many of these resonances are required in order to be able to actually attune the first crystal and do they show up in the other currencies part of the inventory tab ?
So either it's a very small RNG or they haven't been enabled . Requires the closer look into it .
I am (and with me others) have tried to complete the "Attunement Crystal" quest…
Despite the fact that I have the resonator and a whole bunch fragments from different types in Currency there is no way to fulfill that quest.
First step is to use the resonator (Left Crystal) is sparkling white (accessible)
Middle and right Crystal sparkles stayed red (Not accessible) after using the resonator in step 1.
How to fix this issue ?
Otherwise there will be an endless flood of "WTF is going on" from new players going through the campaign.
The entire idea behind them is great.
You know, you can collect Runes, to enhance your experience and all that's great.
But the enemies in the dungeon, and the bosses in the dungeon, are so weak and lackluster, just seems like an unfinished model.
I suggest, adding more difficult enemies, that take longer than 1 minute to kill (without any glitches/bugs)
A real boss would be great. Maybe some more enemies, to make it seem like a dungeon. I think it would be cool to see Halaster pop up in Expeditions as well, adding effects to players like effects you see in Illusionist Gambit.
Halaster is a powerful wizard, and I feel like a lot of his power isn't displayed in this module... that's kind of sad.
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Let me start with the quest description itself…
Speak with Runemaster Sinyé about Crystallized Resonance.
Speak with Runemaster Sinyé about Attunement Crystals.
Obtain Runic Etchings from the Master Expedition reward chest.
Speak with Obaya about Master Expeditions.
Enter and complete a Master Expedition.
This tells me that the needed Etching is located in the reward chest at the end of the expedition.
However...
The problem is that the chest at the end of the expedition is not accessible after completing this expedition …
While it should be accessible when all runes are found, so the Runic Etching can be obtained the chest.
I also have some feedback points.
1. Some mob's are acting static and not reacting on input by engaging me when I come close, its like they are trapped in code loop (this also count for the two big Salamanders (forgot their name, they are stuck on their place)).
2. Some mob's from a group are now and then stuck in a mushroom, they are not targetable and sometimes a door cannot be opened due being in attack mode.
3. End portal is not always appearing, as it should be and being forced to log to character screen and back to get to Yawning Portal
Can you give me a bit more info on the end portal not appearing:
- Were you running a Master Expedition?
- Were there others in your group?
- For those the portal did not appear to, did you have an Expedition mission given by Obaya (either a repeatable or one-off)?
Thanks for your help!
In my groups case on several occasions:
We were running Master Expedition.
There were always two or more members in the group.
When the portal did not appear happened in two scenarios in my experience.
1. I am in a party where the party leader is doing the Master Expedition for the first time and I do not have either quest. In this case I do not get the portal, but the person doing the quest for the first time does.
2. I am in a party where the party leader has the repeatable quest but I do not have either quest. In this case I do not get the portal but the party leader does.
In each scenario anyone without the quest does not get the portal.
I have heard of people not getting the portal when they had a different quest than the party leader. The party leader has one-off and party member has repeatable, or the other way around. I have not experienced this myself.
The portal always seems to appear if:
1. Everyone in the group has the exact same quest (either all one off or all repeatable)
As for the Master expeditions, they're pretty lackluster, and rewards are pretty pathetic for the invested time searching for the relics and clearing out the expedition maps, heck once I completed the two, all you get now are "seals of the mountain" which seem to not have a NPC anywhere to spend them, if anything is even useful from them to begin with, that is. Most of the expedition maps, the mobs get stuck in walls, floors, or on a consistent animation loop and they are invincible, no matter what attack or maxed out artifact is used, or a timed 4 artifact effect from everyone still doesn't work, everyone 20K+ item level, and this little wraith was impossible to kill (this wasn't even using any of the attune relics at beginning, straight "vanilla" master expedition), and like others said, you're stuck in a combat loop, and cannot interact with anything if that happens, so everyone is forced to restart the client, and be forced back to yawning portal to start all over again.
Also the map that seems to spawn you all twisted up and you're either on a wall of a ceiling to start out with, it'll defiantly make you 100% frustrated as your companion has taken a permanent vacation from you entirely (even if you do manage to get to the floor level and everything seems normal, you can re-spawn your companion and it disappears again until you're finished with that expedition), mobs are hidden behind walls, can hurt you, but you cannot hurt them, same issue with being locked into a combat loop and cannot interact with anything in the dungeon. Also, it seems to make everyone suffer a reduction to their overall stats and damage on that map, nearly 5% loss of all stats, including no companion when you do that dungeon (thats if you do not crash halfway through).. which i think that's why people and myself crash on that map when we get it, as that was not intentional. Even as a solo player, our skills being gimped from a comparison from mod 15 til now only being a 1/4 of their potency, the mobs are still fairly easy to kill, and you would think in a "master expedition", with level 80 mobs, it should be a little more challenging, bosses are fun though, but still easily solo-able.
Just seems like it takes more time to search for the relics than clearing the rooms of mobs, and the rewards for completion aren't even worth the time and effort in doing them as you cannot spend any of the seals even if you wanted too at the moment. If you do gain any items aside from seals, the RNG is impossible then. And from what I got before 882 item, still really not worth grinding out for, if all you're going to get are seals you cannot spend. At least Barovia heroics are more challenging and fun to solo and play. Would LOVE to see master expeditions with mobs equivalent to the level of the mobs in Barovia heroics now (i used to frown upon this, but after playing about 14 or more master expeditions solo, i want something more challenging and much better rewards because of it). THAT in itself would make solo play more rewarding then....
Here's a nifty idea.. Say what about creating something like difficulty shards.. going from normal, to hardcore. This way you appease everyone, the higher the difficulty in that overall shard, they better the rng rewards are on those maps within that shard. If people just want to screw around, they dont have to stay in town cause they cannot kill anything, but don't want to team up with anyone. They can just pick a lower difficulty shard, and play around with a much lower chance of drop rates, and minimal gold and other things dropping as it'll be a easier shard to work from.
2. I was grouped with one other player.
3. For both players was it a repeatable.
In my case (I was leader), the member left the expedition before I did (so for him was the portal visible) and when I wanted to leave (after a short chat) there was no portal.
Like Gronknor mentioned about the portals in Barovia hunt (mod 15), where group members are spread up on different maps when they leave before the leader does..
Only in my case (master expedition) the portal went poof.
PS. not needed to apologize for inconvenience, that's a testserver for
"Find these rune altering crystals placed by Halaster while on a Master Expedition. These Attunement Crystals allow you to increase the rewards at a cost."
- That's fairly clearly the crystals in the entry area for the Master expedition.
The next paragraph says:
"First you will need to convert the Resonance you have collected with the resonator into Crystalized Resonance. Spend Crystalized Resonance to change the Attunement Crystal and alter the treasure within. While on a Master Expedition, locate Runic Etchings."
- This appears to be the other function to the crystals in the entrance area, but nothing happens in the conversation.
So the whole thing is impossible to progress in because if they are not the 3 crystals at the start, in half dozens runs (some before some after today's patch) there has never been anything to suggest that the runes existed.
The things there are 9 of in each Expedition don't seem to change anything but the possible rewards Obaya Uday gives out (which are cool while leveling.
Obsidian Oath - Warlock
A whole lot of other Obsidian toons as well.
You cannot access the chest after the initial Master Expedition, nor after doing the repeatable one. This is a bit of a showstopper, as it means you cannot complete the "Attunement Crystals" quest, as you cannot get a Runic Etching from the chest. (Or get the Runic Apprentice gear, for that matter).
Iron cannot be broken in pieces with bare hands, and the road to Rome isn't build in one day..
So what I did was drop the quest, talked to runemaster lady again to re-accept the quest, now I'm stuck at "talk to 'Obysomthing or other' about master expeditions" task. When I talk to her, I can accept a repeatable master expedition quest, and if I go through every dialog available, it won't complete the task, even after completing a repeatable expedition quest. So I'm stuck at that task now.