Bye, bye PvP

pauliusxas

Hello,

Is Module 14: Ravenloft is disaster for PvP? Yes, but it was disaster long time ago.

I tried to play matches with classes like OP, GF, GWF. All of them are almost BiS classes, with 15-16k IL. I have built them just for PvP, but than I realised, it's impossible to build some classes for PvP. Yeah, you can have some fun with them, but when you starting to fight against people with BROKEN items, you starting to think, what's a point? Maybe I should start using broken items too? I don't want to think like that and that's only some of the reasons why I want to quit PvP (PvP is the only thing that I like, so it means end for Neverwinter too).
Another thing, it have been some modules already and I still can't see any balancing. At the past there was some inbalance, but I remember we still figured it out. Yes, this module you tried to fix a little bit some classes. You nerfed GF bull charge and now we cannot one rotate most of the time. TRs have been "nerfed" too, even tho we still can survive easily 5v1, but we cannot deal 200-300k damage anymore, that I think is a bummer. And balancing is only one of the many, many, many problems. I come to Trade of Blades and I don't understand, why you just don't delete those NPCs that sell accessory which is outdated long, long ago. These accessories wasn't even useful in Mod 6, so why it's still there. Maybe you forgot about some things which is inside game for years?
It is also starting to feel that PvP will just stop existing here, sometimes at Queues you have to wait so long, that I can finish my work, eat lunch and even watch a movie. I am talking about Domination Solo queues. Normal Domination exists only for PM parties and I am not even talking about Gauntlgrym or Siege PvP, they are dead long time ago. I think that even if Devs will start fixing PvP now, it will be hard to come back at the times, when you didn't need to wait for Gauntlgrym or Domination queues for a long time or where you could enjoy open world PvP in Icewind Dale.
Even tho I will be waiting, but if our "beloved" Developers will stay ignorant on PvP, I think there won't be any PvP anymore in this game.

Best Regards,
Some guy.

P.S.: I do not care about your replies, they won't change reg. what I think...


@nitocris83

gromovnipljesak

dude if ya aint gonna play just dont play

dont write an essay about it, you're not coldplay or whatever

theguiido

I wonder if they even read the PvP section bro.

heraldfayez

pauliusxas said:

Hello,

Is Module 14: Ravenloft is disaster for PvP? Yes, but it was disaster long time ago.

I tried to play matches with classes like OP, GF, GWF. All of them are almost BiS classes, with 15-16k IL. I have built them just for PvP, but than I realised, it's impossible to build some classes for PvP. Yeah, you can have some fun with them, but when you starting to fight against people with BROKEN items, you starting to think, what's a point? Maybe I should start using broken items too? I don't want to think like that and that's only some of the reasons why I want to quit PvP (PvP is the only thing that I like, so it means end for Neverwinter too).
Another thing, it have been some modules already and I still can't see any balancing. At the past there was some inbalance, but I remember we still figured it out. Yes, this module you tried to fix a little bit some classes. You nerfed GF bull charge and now we cannot one rotate most of the time. TRs have been "nerfed" too, even tho we still can survive easily 5v1, but we cannot deal 200-300k damage anymore, that I think is a bummer. And balancing is only one of the many, many, many problems. I come to Trade of Blades and I don't understand, why you just don't delete those NPCs that sell accessory which is outdated long, long ago. These accessories wasn't even useful in Mod 6, so why it's still there. Maybe you forgot about some things which is inside game for years?
It is also starting to feel that PvP will just stop existing here, sometimes at Queues you have to wait so long, that I can finish my work, eat lunch and even watch a movie. I am talking about Domination Solo queues. Normal Domination exists only for PM parties and I am not even talking about Gauntlgrym or Siege PvP, they are dead long time ago. I think that even if Devs will start fixing PvP now, it will be hard to come back at the times, when you didn't need to wait for Gauntlgrym or Domination queues for a long time or where you could enjoy open world PvP in Icewind Dale.
Even tho I will be waiting, but if our "beloved" Developers will stay ignorant on PvP, I think there won't be any PvP anymore in this game.

Best Regards,
Some guy.

P.S.: I do not care about your replies, they won't change reg. what I think...


@nitocris83

they never cared about pvp and probably never will that's the truth

slysnow

Everyone's dps has been reduced. There's a flat 40% reduction. Complaining about lack of one rotation? Have you seen the nerf the HRs received? GFs have many ways to fight outside of one rotation. It just seems you're not willing to adapt imo.

I agree with most of the rest of your post.

finalfantasyac7

pauliusxas said:

You nerfed GF bull charge and now we cannot one rotate most of the time.

lol

spidey

pauliusxas said:

P.S.: I do not care about your replies, they won't change reg. what I think...

Funny. I dont care what you think reg. what you replie.

wintersmoke

gromovnipljesak#8234 said:

dude if ya aint gonna play just dont play

dont write an essay about it, you're not coldplay or whatever

Too many words. Repeat after me. Ahem -

"Bye Felicia!"

rschrager

Few random thoughts, in no particular order:

• The willingness to 'spend time' on PvP - and these are business decisions that the devs have nothing to do with - is just that - business. While I don't like it, the fact that my preferred game element is shared by about 2% of the total game population at least makes it clear why PvP hasn't seen any love, and probably won't unless it happens unintentionally as a side-effect of a PvE change.
  
• Self regulation - or more accurately, peer regulation - is the only shot we have at getting broken items off the battlefield, and given how long it's been going on, I've given up hope for that. Too may people want to play the 'win at all cost' version of the game, and not enough people push back to change anything. Gee, taking more damage from the reactive proc while hitting someone in the back than I'm doing to them is WAI, right?
  
• The Trade of Blades comment in the OP jumped out at me because I noticed it myself a looong time ago. Said differently, wtf is Glory used for anymore? Just let me convert it directly to salvage AD and be done with it.
  

demolitioninc

sorry I couldn't resist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O76wUakuIss

schietindebux

PVP in NWO is dead since long , so no need to burry it again ...it´s dead

kalina311

schietindebux said:

PVP in NWO is dead since long , so no need to burry it again ...it´s dead

see even veteran posters all agree.. I stopped adding input here months ago folks after writing the equivalent of a novel in pvp posts and suggestions to no avail ..and even if devs follow / read suggestions there is a like a 5 mod delay before useless token changes are even made at a slugs pace despite feedback.. I barely managed to scrape pvp with the devs ..the curse bringer ring/ other items may have been patched/ semi patched after/ as a result of the devs seeing the logs of those matches tho where they got smashed with every broken item / boon they created possible

originalcatman

It has been a couple of years since I played Neverwinter, so when I got back to find PvP queues not picking anything up, I was colored disappointed.

How does an old Rogue find PvP in Neverwinter nowadays?