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Update tarmalune trade bar shop

starlitclericstarlitcleric Member Posts: 4 Arc User
in Player Feedback (PC)
I figure with the extension on enchantment ranks to 14, shouldn't the enchant and runestones purchased there be rank 9? Seems odd that I would have to refine those up 7 ranks now instead of 5. Just an idea.

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  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 1,798 Arc User
    edited February 2018
    I think we'd be lucky to see them offer Rank 8 and they'd likely cost 3x-5x the trade bars for a R8 Enchantment. I'd be surprised if they included Rank 9 ones although I'm sure it would make some very happy. :)

    I've often wondered why many companions have remained green for years given the amount of trade bars they cost and were never updated to at least Rare? Still perhaps we'll see some new gear with Omu in Tradebars or something else, although I'm not even sure they will introduce new gear to the equipment store either?

    Still it would be very NICE if they refreshed or offered a few new or different items at least; or upgraded some of the uncommon items to Rare quality in trade bars store for sure. o:)
    Post edited by strathkin on
  • hammbo1969hammbo1969 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 165 Arc User
    Suggested it before, and I'll suggest it again here. Add a legendary mount to the store for around 5-6k bars. This would be a nice addition for those of us who have fruitlessly sought a legendary mount from numerous lockboxes, and have a stack of bars and nothing to spend them on.
  • ilmenirailmenira Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 269 Arc User
    ... ... bring the wards back!
    :D
  • jrdiiorio#8134 jrdiiorio
    jrdiiorio#8134
         Member Posts: 119 Arc User
    > @greywynd said:
    > The last time they updated the Trade Bar merchant they removed wards.

    Not true. Even though ps4 hasn’t been around for the removal of coal wards I have seen them add eye of the giant, manticore and several other mounts.
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,158 Arc User
    I wouldn't call that "updating" as such. That is what the Trade Bar store is for; getting the artifacts/mounts from the previous campaigns.
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  • nitocris83nitocris83 Member, Cryptic Developer, Administrator Posts: 4,498 Cryptic Developer
    I don't have any specific info on the Trade Bar Store but discussions about what stores/wares to update is a common one with the team. Making decisions on changes is tough, though. Executing on those decisions is even tougher due to all the moving parts (player needs, game needs, viability, long-term consequences, etc.)
  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 1,798 Arc User
    edited February 2018
    nitocris83 said:

    I don't have any specific info on the Trade Bar Store but discussions about what stores/wares to update is a common one with the team. Making decisions on changes is tough, though. Executing on those decisions is even tougher due to all the moving parts (player needs, game needs, viability, long-term consequences, etc.)

    Very well said @nitocris83 even though my Elves aren't anywhere close to the far stronger players in Neverwinter they do TRY very hard. It's a very well worded statement! Elves would often like to see Upgrade Chances higher on a few more items especially the stark contrast between Normal Enchants and Weapon/Armor; but it's likely and understandable to maintain healthy margins--just not hopefully too healthy. Even if it is 2 GMOP's at R8 for Enchantments with 30% chance of upgrade; verses 10 GMOP's for R8 Weapon/Armor with 1% chance.

    I've never liked 1% chance cause it doesn't even give the tiny bit of HOPE; 3% is bad enough so why isn't the lowest 2%? Yet I'm sure this difference for Enchants's or Weapon/Armor was there prior to refinement changes... just thankful for the other refinement changes. Still I think that's why many miss the Ward's from the trade bar store and would welcome them back even if account bound.

    Still I think it be very nice to finally see Companions in Trade Bar store finally offered at least Rare quality or having the cost reduced for the uncommon ones.
    ilmenira said:

    ... ... bring the wards back!
    :D

    I'd love to see that as well! But suspect Coal Ward's would be excluded and we'd be lucky to just see Account Bound Preservation Ward's added back? I suspect Ward's were taken out mostly when they planned VIP to ensure more Ward's were being purchased with ZEN directly / indirectly.
    Post edited by strathkin on
  • gromovnipljesak#8234 gromovnipljesak
    gromovnipljesak#8234
         Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    Character bound coal wards for a higher price?
  • namelesshero347namelesshero347 Member Posts: 2,109 Arc User
    BtA coal wards would be nice. Especially now that R13 was added making everyone suffer the 3% round of upgrades again. And the RNG is still as broken as ever. I tried to make my second R13 a few weeks ago. 200 pres wards and still not done. I give up on 3% pres ward upgrades, again. Saving myAD for the 40% zen store sale. How annoying.
  • kemnimtarkaskemnimtarkas Member Posts: 838 Arc User
    greywynd said:

    The last time they updated the Trade Bar merchant they removed wards.

    This, exactly.

    Be careful what you wish for OP. We used to be able to buy Pres Wards and Coal wards with T-bars. Then the devs decided the "economy" was out of balance so no more wards in the store.

  • unthoughtknownunthoughtknown Member Posts: 130 Arc User
    namelesshero347 said:

    BtA coal wards would be nice. Especially now that R13 was added making everyone suffer the 3% round of upgrades again. And the RNG is still as broken as ever. I tried to make my second R13 a few weeks ago. 200 pres wards and still not done. I give up on 3% pres ward upgrades, again. Saving myAD for the 40% zen store sale. How annoying.

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  • ulmenstine81#1994 ulmenstine81
    ulmenstine81#1994
         Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    i think i would have to agree on this too . there is no reason when u type in rank 12 there should be sometimes the whole 400 items of that.. and this will save on bandwidth too . but if u were to have like if u hit search under enchaments it will show 1 of that item each then if u need that item.. u can click it and the index will parse out and bring down all of them. also i have said before they should change the way u are able to sell your items.. when u just click and pop it in. u r going off of what the auction is saying it is.. but i think it should show u the current prices at that second with the items that are up there... and i wont get started on the chat.. needs do something with that cause them ppl trying to trade in there is annoying.. when they spam it.. should be a 10 second to 15 second wait limit if u spam more then 2 msgs in so many seconds
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,158 Arc User
    ulmenstine81#1994 said:

    i think i would have to agree on this too . there is no reason when u type in rank 12 there should be sometimes the whole 400 items of that.. and this will save on bandwidth too . but if u were to have like if u hit search under enchaments it will show 1 of that item each then if u need that item.. u can click it and the index will parse out and bring down all of them. also i have said before they should change the way u are able to sell your items.. when u just click and pop it in. u r going off of what the auction is saying it is.. but i think it should show u the current prices at that second with the items that are up there... and i wont get started on the chat.. needs do something with that cause them ppl trying to trade in there is annoying.. when they spam it.. should be a 10 second to 15 second wait limit if u spam more then 2 msgs in so many seconds

    Trade Bar merchant. Not the Auction House.
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  • nemesis666#6862 nemesis666
    nemesis666#6862
         Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    > @nitocris83 said:
    > I don't have any specific info on the Trade Bar Store but discussions about what stores/wares to update is a common one with the team. Making decisions on changes is tough, though. Executing on those decisions is even tougher due to all the moving parts (player needs, game needs, viability, long-term consequences, etc.)

    must be very hard next to impossible to figure it out. omfg really? they get PAYED for it!
  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 1,798 Arc User
    edited February 2018
    nemesis666#6862 said:

    > @nitocris83 said:

    > I don't have any specific info on the Trade Bar Store but discussions about what stores/wares to update is a common one with the team. Making decisions on changes is tough, though. Executing on those decisions is even tougher due to all the moving parts (player needs, game needs, viability, long-term consequences, etc.)



    must be very hard next to impossible to figure it out. omfg really? they get PAYED for it!

    True. But it's also what keep's the lights on inside their office, and the team providing new content, regardless how you play the game. Still I'm overall very happy with the refinement changes overall - just wish we would never see a 1% upgrade as 3% is practical insanity - couldn't the worst be 2% to give a tiny bit of HOPE to save a Ward?

    I certainly don't think that's asking too much? But this is likely the exactly type of debate she refers, and where various opinions vary quite differently in the office as well. I'd suspect most are comfortable with the >30%, 20%, perhaps even 10% chance, yet it probably gets more involved once you get below 5%--even though some upgrade chances were improved more recently.

    o:)
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  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited February 2018
    How about the >1,000,000 ad in SMOPS you need to go for a transcendent weapon enchantment? And at a 1% chance? There are a lot of problems with the new system. Have you ranked up a new artifact lately? I'm curious what the cost is to refine the upcoming weapons.
  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 1,798 Arc User
    edited February 2018
    greywynd said:

    The last time they updated the Trade Bar merchant they removed wards.

    I suspect this has nothing to do with updating the Trade Bar store directly, more likely was changed as a result of rewards going to be offered with VIP.
    santralafax said:

    How about the >1,000,000 ad in SMOPS you need to go for a transcendent weapon enchantment? And at a 1% chance? There are a lot of problems with the new system. Have you ranked up a new artifact lately? I'm curious what the cost is to refine the upcoming weapons.

    Yea as I said above I think 1% should never be offered period--the worse should be 2%. As in my original message I still find the 250,000 in Diamonds for 10 GMOP's from Wonderous Bazaar and 1% chance just for a R8 Weapon/Armor Enchant a bit hard to swallow - even though some defended it.

    I get it may not ever be only 2 GMOP's or 30% chance like a regular R8 Enchantment - but it's a stark contrast between two similarly ranked enchantments even if Weapon/Armor only currently goes to R13.

    Still I may not have HOPE of seeing the Reagents change that much but give us at least a 2% chance... :|
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