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  • hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    daccura said:

    Not to mention all the BOONS which don't work with the Temptation SW. I mean ok wih some Boons they would proc perma because of the mechanic of Temptation SW but c'mon - last time I checked not ONE SINGLE healing Boon was procced by the capstone.

    Warlock HP restoring is not healing. it's life stealing mechanic.
    Now templock with Soul Bonding feat simply expand it, thats mean life steal not only heal warlock himself, but also allies around him. <
    Now also VAmpiric embrace, heal 100% of it's dealt dmg value, while warlock restore Hp by 70% of it's value..,
    Old Soul bonding where, 200% value of vampiric embrace deal dmg.
    But it's where way too strong.. :)

    Also, templocks HP restoring, scaling from very low, to very high. More dmg you deal, more Hp u restore to yourself + allies..
    And if you using AoE powers, It's 30% effectiveness. Thats all limitation. You need good power + life steal. And you can heal everyone around youself in high rates, even without using specific healing powers... :)
    So personally, don't see any reason to even use any boon to enchant my healing. All I need extra Life steal + dmg..
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    “The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
    Gustave Le Bon.

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  • naoqueroforumnaoqueroforum Member Posts: 225 Arc User

    daccura said:

    Not to mention all the BOONS which don't work with the Temptation SW. I mean ok wih some Boons they would proc perma because of the mechanic of Temptation SW but c'mon - last time I checked not ONE SINGLE healing Boon was procced by the capstone.

    Warlock HP restoring is not healing. it's life stealing mechanic.
    Now templock with Soul Bonding feat simply expand it, thats mean life steal not only heal warlock himself, but also allies around him. <
    Now also VAmpiric embrace, heal 100% of it's dealt dmg value, while warlock restore Hp by 70% of it's value..,
    Old Soul bonding where, 200% value of vampiric embrace deal dmg.
    But it's where way too strong.. :)

    Also, templocks HP restoring, scaling from very low, to very high. More dmg you deal, more Hp u restore to yourself + allies..
    And if you using AoE powers, It's 30% effectiveness. Thats all limitation. You need good power + life steal. And you can heal everyone around youself in high rates, even without using specific healing powers... :)
    So personally, don't see any reason to even use any boon to enchant my healing. All I need extra Life steal + dmg..
    I believe he is referring to burning guidance and healing warmth. I'm pretty sure he doesn't care about things that increase outgoing healing but about the potential extra damage that one could get if those boons worked with the soul bonding heals.
  • gabrieldourdengabrieldourden Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    When Burning Guidance was working with the capstone the Temptlock was by far the paingiver in any dungeon run and often disconnected other players and himself due to the data workload...
    Le-Shan: HR level 80 (main)
    Born of Black Wind: SW Level 80
  • nirafelosnirafelos Member Posts: 113 Arc User
    How (does?) the current incarnation of the temptation capstone interact with LS Severity?

    I'd love to see substantially more buffs put into the tree, deep enough that they can't be picked up by a hybrid build -- or the capstone could work more like the OP Paragon Path choice, which would affect the functionality of...basically all powers.

  • hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    nirafelos said:

    How (does?) the current incarnation of the temptation capstone interact with LS Severity?

    I'd love to see substantially more buffs put into the tree, deep enough that they can't be picked up by a hybrid build -- or the capstone could work more like the OP Paragon Path choice, which would affect the functionality of...basically all powers.

    How current templock interact with life steal? Simply, Aura of cruelty 5% LS,
    Next, Dark revelry. After life steal, there is chance to trigger/receive dark revelry buff.
    And finally, Soul Bonding, which Warlocks life steal healing factors expand to point it heal everyone(allies) around him in certain radius.



    When Burning Guidance was working with the capstone the Temptlock was by far the paingiver in any dungeon run and often disconnected other players and himself due to the data workload...

    When it worked? Did I miss it?



    I believe he is referring to burning guidance and healing warmth. I'm pretty sure he doesn't care about things that increase outgoing healing but about the potential extra damage that one could get if those boons worked with the soul bonding heals.

    Sadly, but boons says, healing spells. And this do not apply toward warlock.. This problem with healing boons are since warlock introduction in mod 4.. :) So I have 0 expectation that these boons have any interactions with templock.. :)
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    “The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
    Gustave Le Bon.

    ==================================================
  • naoqueroforumnaoqueroforum Member Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited July 2017

    nirafelos said:

    How (does?) the current incarnation of the temptation capstone interact with LS Severity?

    I'd love to see substantially more buffs put into the tree, deep enough that they can't be picked up by a hybrid build -- or the capstone could work more like the OP Paragon Path choice, which would affect the functionality of...basically all powers.

    How current templock interact with life steal? Simply, Aura of cruelty 5% LS,
    Next, Dark revelry. After life steal, there is chance to trigger/receive dark revelry buff.
    And finally, Soul Bonding, which Warlocks life steal healing factors expand to point it heal everyone(allies) around him in certain radius.



    He is asking how life steal SEVERITY affects the Capstone only. Before LS severity was implemented, soul bonding would just simply work like the old life steal but for allies only. When they introduced life steal severity, I believe I read something stating that the severity would affect the soul bonding heal on a multiplicative basis, e.g. 10% more soul bonding heal for 110% LS Sev, while the rest of the functionality remained the same.
  • nirafelosnirafelos Member Posts: 113 Arc User

    He is asking how life steal SEVERITY affects the Capstone only. Before LS severity was implemented, soul bonding would just simply work like the old life steal but for allies only. When they introduced life steal severity, I believe I read something stating that the severity would affect the soul bonding heal on a multiplicative basis, e.g. 10% more soul bonding heal for 110% LS Sev, while the rest of the functionality remained the same.

    Thank you for understanding the question :tongue:

    Does that functionality extend to things like the Endless Consumption boon (Chance to heal 3x normal value when you lifesteal)? Does that functionality mean that the greater everfrost underpants are BiS for temptation? (they double your LS Sev with 1/3 uptime)
  • gabrieldourdengabrieldourden Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,212 Arc User


    When Burning Guidance was working with the capstone the Temptlock was by far the paingiver in any dungeon run and often disconnected other players and himself due to the data workload...

    When it worked? Did I miss it?

    It worked only for a few days in preview if I remember well. I did at the time a couple of CN runs and my Temptlock was melting everything (I did 80% or more of the party damage), the game froze continuously and very often either me or somebody else in the group disconnected.
    The issue was reported and the capstone modified not to trigger Burning Guidance. Today probably the damage would be lower but the workload on PCs and servers would probably be similar.

    Le-Shan: HR level 80 (main)
    Born of Black Wind: SW Level 80
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