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  • devlin#3775 devlin Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited April 2017
    dupeks said:

    masteroga said:

    Well the swings on consol are absurd, it would have just been a 3 minute test to look for 100 point swings in arp. Ok cool, so maybe this problem gets fixed today for us? Pretty hard to min max when ur crit can be up or down like 10%, and arp a few %.



    Thanks for testing :smile:



    EDIT: I only did the tests on a legendary fire archon, and legendary con artist. A bunch of other people verified it as well, but again....all were using legendary strikers. So...might be something related to the 15% bonus

    Can I ask how you tested? I'm curious if you're picking up some other interaction that's causing stats to fluctuate. The legendary bonus definitely can (it used to at times drop off or double stack momentarily), but it could also be something else...

    Like I said I don't recall there ever being a period of time after they changed bondings from multi-stacks to a single stack when they did not work as described. I suppose it's possible that this was a console-only bug, but those are quite uncommon... Then again if the bug was beneficial then its not as likely to have been reported...
    Not the poster you responded to but I notice it as well on target dummies. I'm trying to a) get as close to 60% armor pen without wasted points and b) get my crit up as high as possible.

    I don't have any of the boons that temporarily boost my crit (went recovery instead) and don't have any feats that affect my armor pen. But regardless, I just attack once with an at will to get my companion going and then stare at my stat screen. My armor pen jumps around (low 58% high I think 64%) and my crit goes up/down about 3.5% (low 87.4 high 91ish).

    I do have 2 legendary companions (summoned con artist / active air) so maybe that is messing with something (not sure why it would though). But my stats definitely don't stay at a static (buffed) number.
  • dupeksdupeks Member Posts: 1,789 Arc User

    dupeks said:

    masteroga said:

    Well the swings on consol are absurd, it would have just been a 3 minute test to look for 100 point swings in arp. Ok cool, so maybe this problem gets fixed today for us? Pretty hard to min max when ur crit can be up or down like 10%, and arp a few %.



    Thanks for testing :smile:



    EDIT: I only did the tests on a legendary fire archon, and legendary con artist. A bunch of other people verified it as well, but again....all were using legendary strikers. So...might be something related to the 15% bonus

    Can I ask how you tested? I'm curious if you're picking up some other interaction that's causing stats to fluctuate. The legendary bonus definitely can (it used to at times drop off or double stack momentarily), but it could also be something else...

    Like I said I don't recall there ever being a period of time after they changed bondings from multi-stacks to a single stack when they did not work as described. I suppose it's possible that this was a console-only bug, but those are quite uncommon... Then again if the bug was beneficial then its not as likely to have been reported...
    Not the poster you responded to but I notice it as well on target dummies. I'm trying to a) get as close to 60% armor pen without wasted points and b) get my crit up as high as possible.

    I don't have any of the boons that temporarily boost my crit (went recovery instead) and don't have any feats that affect my armor pen. But regardless, I just attack once with an at will to get my companion going and then stare at my stat screen. My armor pen jumps around (low 58% high I think 64%) and my crit goes up/down about 3.5% (low 87.4 high 91ish).

    I do have 2 legendary companions (summoned con artist / active air) so maybe that is messing with something (not sure why it would though). But my stats definitely don't stay at a static (buffed) number.
    I would recommend switching to a different companion to see if this persists. Or idle your legendary actives to see if that stops the stat fluctuations. Would be interesting to isolate if it's the companion or the presence of legendary pets that does this.

    I can test a little bit myself, but like I said I'm not seeing stats fluctuate unexpectedly on PC.

    Con Artist's WMS theoretically increases it's crit chance, but I don't know if that's implemented via increased crit stat or not. It shouldn't affect ArPen, but maybe it does too...
  • masterogamasteroga Member Posts: 474 Arc User
    Mod 11 didn't fix the bonding/legendary problem on Xbox. It screws up less, and starts at the low proc more frequently though. Easiest way to check...smack a dummy and get ur max comrodery stacks....and go make a sandwich. By the time you get back Apr, crit and power will all be much higher
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