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Give alliances a unique name

elvalianonelvalianon Member Posts: 331 Arc User
edited January 2017 in Player Feedback (PC)
It would be really cool if we could give alliances a unique name, so that a alliance does not have to carry their Helm's guild name. In my opinion a alliance is about the community and not who sits at the top. I am rather surprised this option does not exist.

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  • mysteriasdrassamysteriasdrassa Member Posts: 299 Arc User
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  • instynctiveinstynctive Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,885 Arc User
    We've been bugging Cryptic about this since alliances was on preview.. and I'm pretty sure that we were promised that.
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  • cilginordekcilginordek Member Posts: 459 Arc User
    Yeah this can't be to hard to do but it would be really nice.
  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 1,798 Arc User
    I have no problem using Alliance name as they are the Leader's of the Alliance but I certainly would have no objection to a Unique Alliance Name either as it certainly would ENCOURAGE all alliance members to feel more like being a part of the same family and more akin to helping more of their extended brothers & sisters out a bit more... Although that vary's by Guild & Alliance policies as well as leadership too...
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,170 Arc User
    Tuxedo T-Shirt seems to have it. Don't recall a guild by that name and I've seen the tag on players over the weekend.
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  • micky1p00micky1p00 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,594 Arc User
    greywynd said:

    Tuxedo T-Shirt seems to have it. Don't recall a guild by that name and I've seen the tag on players over the weekend.

    Unrepentant (current helm) changed their guild name for this. Alliances don't have separate tag.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,513 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    micky1p00 said:

    greywynd said:

    Tuxedo T-Shirt seems to have it. Don't recall a guild by that name and I've seen the tag on players over the weekend.

    Unrepentant (current helm) changed their guild name for this. Alliances don't have separate tag.
    We thank them (Unrepentant) not enough for doing that. Really appreciate that.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    I don't recall any dev promising or even replying to the idea that alliances would like to be able to write in a name. It seems to be one of those things that they never anticipated we'd want.

    I also don't see why it would have been significantly more complicated to add a text field for the helm to type in a name rather than porting over the helm guild's name for players to display. They'd have had to build it into the UI (and changing UI after the fact is a fairly big job), but aside from that, it would just be pointing to one text string instead of another.

    With the contentiousness involved when a helm guild leader is contacted about the misbehavior of an alliance member wearing their guild tag, and the fact that the game is buggy as hell when deciding to display your alliance flag without indication, it's a QoL change they really ought to find room in the budget to do.

    Meanwhile, Unrepentant has changed their name for the time they will occupy the helm slot, and while this would be voluntary for any guild that takes Tuxedo T's helm position later, it's not a bad idea.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    I'm borrowing an image here for clarity, hope nobody minds. You mean where it says for example "The Holy Crusaders Alliance" at the top of the UI? Or is there something elsewhere that looks like a data field but that you can't actually type in?



    I am saying they didn't anticipate that want in the sense of the interface having already been built before they showed it to us, and data input for alliance name was not included. I am basing that on never having seen anything on my guild or alliance UI that indicates you should be able to type in a name for the alliance, that it just automatically points to whatever the helm is currently called. If there was a separate text field for the alliance name to point at, this would seem simple, but that text field has to exist first. If there is a broken text field that I don't see due to being in a gauntlet, then I apologize for misunderstanding. Or if it looks like leadership of The Holy Crusaders should be able to type where it says "The Holy Crusaders" but cannot.

    Naming alliances was a weird thing to not recognize would be wanted, but Alliances was mostly introduced as "here's a thing we're giving you soon, let us know if anything is grievously broken" rather than there being an extended effort towards feedback collection. It was a large update, but not a full module. (And initially went live with big bad bugs anyway, not just lacking in QoL features.)

    I still have no recollection of a dev promising to fix naming your alliance or even acknowledging "huh, you guys want to name them too??" though if someone can find such a post I'd be glad to join in calling them out on following through.

    Ed: I am not disputing that they've been told we wanted to name our alliances from the get-go, only that once they've built a UI a specific way, it takes an enormous amount of force to get them to change it.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,513 Arc User
    Yes, they need an extra text field to put the alliance name. Based on the above dialog box, the place that can be done is right beside the green flag (where "The Holy Crusaders" is) for the one who have administration power to change it. The UI probably is the least of the issue. If the database schema itself does not even have a field to name the alliance, the implication of the change is much bigger.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    I can't think of many places where an Alliance name is used. It's on the guild tab pictured above, and on the character sheet - where it does not even say "XYZ Guild Alliance" (which would at least be a tiny concession to guilds whose allies misbehave under their flag). If everything worked correctly all the time, the character sheet selected text is what determines which text floats above your avatar.

    If it weren't possible for individual players to display the alliance name (intentional or not), the issue would be more abstract. We could still call our alliance whatever we want privately because nobody would never be publicly misrepresented. So therein lies the path to fixing a problem by removing or disabling something, which we know is always an option.
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  • elvalianonelvalianon Member Posts: 331 Arc User
    instynctive said:

    We've been bugging Cryptic about this since alliances was on preview.. and I'm pretty sure that we were promised that.

    strathkin said:

    I have no problem using Alliance name as they are the Leader's of the Alliance but I certainly would have no objection to a Unique Alliance Name either as it certainly would ENCOURAGE all alliance members to feel more like being a part of the same family and more akin to helping more of their extended brothers & sisters out a bit more... Although that vary's by Guild & Alliance policies as well as leadership too...

    Our alliance is a unity, we work together and shift out the helm guild when they get 20 for the next in line so to speak. So having the name of the current alliance at the top makes absolutely no sense for us.
  • grogthemagnifgrogthemagnif Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,651 Arc User
    greywynd said:

    Tuxedo T-Shirt seems to have it. Don't recall a guild by that name and I've seen the tag on players over the weekend.

    I do remember the Guild with that name.
  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    While there may have been a guild with that name at some point, I assure you that the guild currently sporting the name "Tuxedo Tshirt Alliance" is aka Unrepentant.
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