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When will be PVP guild tricks penalized or is the legit/solo player always the loser
matthiasthehun76
Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
Hi all, dear Mods and Devs!
@strumslinger, @nitocris83 , @bbascomdev
I love the game, love to PVP, but what the PVP guilds mostly do in this game and how the publisher tolerates and sometimes even endorses this is a shame.
I know PVP is mostly a standard in current games and the publishers like to keep it and as i said endorse some players with perks or otherwise just to lure in the youth and this is mainly the reason behind the silence, BUT none the less something needs to happen!
We beg now since ages for PVP fix and here was the best thing ever could happen to us legit players, the SOLO Q, but sadly the metrics gathering brigade only allows us a few weeks of enjoyment each year. Yet again nobody needs to be a genius to know, this is an internal battle, who to please, the mostly unfair playing but big spender PVP guilds, who are btw like a placard in a soccer match, they are advertisement tools or the mostly fair, but not so rich legit crowd.
Yeah i work in the business too, i know how things go.
Take a look at the picture bellow and let's please see some improved communication! You, Cryptic/PWE are always talking about it, so now is the time to act and let the words follow actions.
This is unbearable, when 1 out of 10 times a legit, solo player like me has a chance to win, then the PVP guilds stop fighting each other, cause hey we are friends, we are guildies, we are alliance and what other nonsense there is out there.
Enjoy this theater:
@strumslinger, @nitocris83 , @bbascomdev
I love the game, love to PVP, but what the PVP guilds mostly do in this game and how the publisher tolerates and sometimes even endorses this is a shame.
I know PVP is mostly a standard in current games and the publishers like to keep it and as i said endorse some players with perks or otherwise just to lure in the youth and this is mainly the reason behind the silence, BUT none the less something needs to happen!
We beg now since ages for PVP fix and here was the best thing ever could happen to us legit players, the SOLO Q, but sadly the metrics gathering brigade only allows us a few weeks of enjoyment each year. Yet again nobody needs to be a genius to know, this is an internal battle, who to please, the mostly unfair playing but big spender PVP guilds, who are btw like a placard in a soccer match, they are advertisement tools or the mostly fair, but not so rich legit crowd.
Yeah i work in the business too, i know how things go.
Take a look at the picture bellow and let's please see some improved communication! You, Cryptic/PWE are always talking about it, so now is the time to act and let the words follow actions.
This is unbearable, when 1 out of 10 times a legit, solo player like me has a chance to win, then the PVP guilds stop fighting each other, cause hey we are friends, we are guildies, we are alliance and what other nonsense there is out there.
Enjoy this theater:
The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
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I have mobility 13000 though so I will gladly troll them to death by running from node to node aND killing the slower weaker ones
It's a terrible thing to have everyone just stop playing.. mid pvp match
Hi mate!
I have to say it's like with medication, this is kinda a side effect of alliances, many don't want to fight each other, but there has to be something to prevent this.
You see i had the opportunity when visiting in England to go to a Manchester United match, guess what if 8 out of 10 players (in my case) would have just sat there and not played soccer. You know how passionate the English people are about their soccer, if they saw the match was fixed (like in my case 13 matches(!) out of 19 lately) then all the players and managers of the respective teams would have to flee, cause the fans would want to tear them apart and they could forget about salary, they would be lucky the escape without losing all their teeth.
I grew up in a military/diplomat family so i would say punishment if one doesn't do his job, like in our case fight his alliance mates and ruins the match for others and this in succession. I could come up with no AD for standing around, to no glory, to implement spectator view so they would get shamed in front of the community up to small bans for fixing matches, like in RL. Especially the shaming would do wonders, i say this out of military experience, it works 100%, trust me. I don't have to invent the wheel, the military traditions are clear how such cases are handled, most of the times the fellow soldiers beat up their comrades if they have to clean the latrine with a toothbrush, cause one or more were lazy.
I know what you say Sayan, i had a very good ranking spot, was Nr.3 on my no boons (small guild) TR for a good while and guess what, now i am at the very bottom and not my fault, my board is full of 0-0 matches. I may say i have the best stats with the worst position in the game with my mediocre geared TR. I got tons of "love mails" from so called pros, who said all lovely things to me and harassed me out of the arena for a while. I know that, all part of PVP sadly...
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
PEnalty also for those see a guild name and start comments i do not go down.
I think more of the problem is the vote kicking of the weaker team members hoping for a better replacement
PVP Rogue,
--[----- "Your friendly neighborhood spawn of Satan." -----]--
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Main Character: Hurricane Marigolds (Rogue WK & Assassin)
Ingame Handle: trgluestickz
Discord Name: Hurricane🌀Marigolds#2563
Guilds: She Looked LVL 18 & Essence of Aggression
Alliances: Imperium & Order of the Silent Shroud
Platform: PC
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
In today's match i was asked to lay down my weapons so the respecting teams, mine and the opposing one could play solo within Dom and let's forget the match. We, other players were degraded to simple puppets, meh...
If i was in funny mood, i could say why are premades and some PVP guilds so against solo if they make solo within a 5v5?
@mimicking#6533 please care to comment, what are your plans with PVP and the deep corruption within?
My question would be dear Sir, is PVP for all of us or just for a select few?
Take a look and "enjoy", it literally speaks for itself:
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
Indy - XB1 & PS4 - GF
xeV Indy - PS4 - TR
Nde - XB1 - HR
GT: its indy time
PSN: itsindytime
Twitch: indygoinlive
The Kanye West of Neverwinter
I was a lawyer btw, so thank you i am quite good at analyzing words and actions and you may ask your guildie Sayan-, since we share the same family background, - to enlighten you, who is considered the aggressor in this case.
To make it sound simple, not i did write that PM and asked everybody to stand down, but i was the recipient and i was forced into a dummy role.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
As if there were PvP rewards good enough to justify such behaviours.
People should just join PvP for the fun of a fight, who cares who wins and who loses. When i meet my guildies on an opposite team, we always fight each others, sometimes even focusing each others, just for the fun of the fight.
Players who only care about kills, or wins, or who just "don't fight guild mates/ allies" if they are in the opposite team, should not join PvP in the first place.
And if you're a competitive PvPer you should obviously try to win, but also look for hard fights first. And fight to the finish.
Being in a one-sided match where there's no fight is much worse than just "losing", in my opinion.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
You can't help it. That's how some guys play PvP. Stomp in game, troll on forums.
The issue is that PvP should be just a game mode where everyone can have fun, but game design/ developers choices and PvP guilds kept pushing it in another direction (competitive game mode).
For the devs, it's a way to push players to pay.
But in my opinion, PvP should be casual, for everyone, with an option for PvP guilds to have their own premade queue where they can kill each others "competitively".
Sadly, you can't fix people's heads.
Most PVP guilds already give the courtesy of letting the pugs get 600 points and stop fighting once "GG" is called.
So, in the end, one player fights to help team mates, does his best to overcome gear gap and just gets back to fighting, even at much lower gear level.
The PvP guild 4.3k guy, instead, cares about "not getting killed" by "commoners" and runs like a coward when the fight gets hard and he might get killed.
After that, players usually get trolled, both in game or on forums.
You might agree that such behaviour can be largely found in competitive PvP guilds (expecially the way they consider themselves some kind of elite, and treat other players who just play PvP for fun as some kind of inferior beings). Obviously not all PvP players from such guilds are like that. Many are good players. But the fact that many less likeable players join PvP guilds, over time gave them a pretty bad reputation.
This is what leaves me "speechless".
But i do agree that it's also wrong to just assume that bad PvP behaviours come from PvP guilds only. It's also the game that "encourages" such behaviours, or at least, does nothing to stop them.