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blairreblairre Member Posts: 21 Arc User
The insane grind of this new mod has already been daunting the amount of lanolin drops from he encounters sucks . Can we please have turtle moults and lanolin added to the chests in fbi like five a run or something otherwise its just going to be another useless dungeon

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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    Adding these crafting upgrade components to FBI's loot table would go a long way towards improving the rewards in there.
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  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    blairre said:

    The insane grind of this new mod has already been daunting the amount of lanolin drops from he encounters sucks . Can we please have turtle moults and lanolin added to the chests in fbi like five a run or something otherwise its just going to be another useless dungeon

    lol five a run and the price would crash to 1k a piece or some nonsense. It's intended to be a grind.

    Lanolin should have a chance to drop but you can't really make it a common drop because people can finish FBI in 20-30 minutes. Although the dragon turtle moult drop rate is really bad. Spent four hours grinding out HEs last night, got 4 Evermelt Spring water, 4 Frozenfar Mistletoe and 2 dragon turtle moult. At the rate it's going I'm going to end up selling the purple mats to buy the turtle moults I need : \
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  • kangkeokkangkeok Member Posts: 1,123 Arc User
    Yup. Even lanolin has better drop.
  • blairreblairre Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    urabask said:

    blairre said:

    The insane grind of this new mod has already been daunting the amount of lanolin drops from he encounters sucks . Can we please have turtle moults and lanolin added to the chests in fbi like five a run or something otherwise its just going to be another useless dungeon

    lol five a run and the price would crash to 1k a piece or some nonsense. It's intended to be a grind.

    Lanolin should have a chance to drop but you can't really make it a common drop because people can finish FBI in 20-30 minutes. Although the dragon turtle moult drop rate is really bad. Spent four hours grinding out HEs last night, got 4 Evermelt Spring water, 4 Frozenfar Mistletoe and 2 dragon turtle moult. At the rate it's going I'm going to end up selling the purple mats to buy the turtle moults I need : \

    You have to grind to get to fbi you have to grind to get to the new 10 man so other then peoples greed which you are stating should be the deciding factor it shouldn't be that much of a grind

  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    blairre said:

    urabask said:

    blairre said:

    The insane grind of this new mod has already been daunting the amount of lanolin drops from he encounters sucks . Can we please have turtle moults and lanolin added to the chests in fbi like five a run or something otherwise its just going to be another useless dungeon

    lol five a run and the price would crash to 1k a piece or some nonsense. It's intended to be a grind.

    Lanolin should have a chance to drop but you can't really make it a common drop because people can finish FBI in 20-30 minutes. Although the dragon turtle moult drop rate is really bad. Spent four hours grinding out HEs last night, got 4 Evermelt Spring water, 4 Frozenfar Mistletoe and 2 dragon turtle moult. At the rate it's going I'm going to end up selling the purple mats to buy the turtle moults I need : \

    You have to grind to get to fbi you have to grind to get to the new 10 man so other then peoples greed which you are stating should be the deciding factor it shouldn't be that much of a grind

    The way it's designed makes it clear they intended for this to be at least a month long process even for the people that are rushing it. The drop rates you're suggesting would drastically cut down on that. They've even said that they intend for restoration mats to be part of the economy so when you've got a minority of the playerbase rushing through FBI to get the mats that the rest of the playerbase has to grind HEs for it breaks that interaction. If you want to rush through the mat requirements then the AH is there and it really isn't all that expensive at this point.
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  • blairreblairre Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    urabask said:

    blairre said:

    urabask said:

    blairre said:

    The insane grind of this new mod has already been daunting the amount of lanolin drops from he encounters sucks . Can we please have turtle moults and lanolin added to the chests in fbi like five a run or something otherwise its just going to be another useless dungeon

    lol five a run and the price would crash to 1k a piece or some nonsense. It's intended to be a grind.

    Lanolin should have a chance to drop but you can't really make it a common drop because people can finish FBI in 20-30 minutes. Although the dragon turtle moult drop rate is really bad. Spent four hours grinding out HEs last night, got 4 Evermelt Spring water, 4 Frozenfar Mistletoe and 2 dragon turtle moult. At the rate it's going I'm going to end up selling the purple mats to buy the turtle moults I need : \

    You have to grind to get to fbi you have to grind to get to the new 10 man so other then peoples greed which you are stating should be the deciding factor it shouldn't be that much of a grind

    The way it's designed makes it clear they intended for this to be at least a month long process even for the people that are rushing it. The drop rates you're suggesting would drastically cut down on that. They've even said that they intend for restoration mats to be part of the economy so when you've got a minority of the playerbase rushing through FBI to get the mats that the rest of the playerbase has to grind HEs for it breaks that interaction. If you want to rush through the mat requirements then the AH is there and it really isn't all that expensive at this point.
    They said they where going to be fixxing the chests in dungeons to make burning a key everytime worth it Adding lanolin and turtle moetes does that
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    I've been getting most of my lanolin from fishing treasures. Seems to drop 2 each when it drops.
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  • anomaleaanomalea Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    I've been getting lanolin from treasure maps, which was a nice surprise.

    Did a dozen BHEs before they broke - no drops, and a dozen after the fix - no drops. Did a handful more just now - no drops. Why bother. Waste of time. It's not fun, I spend hours trying. There's no point.
  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    blairre said:

    urabask said:

    blairre said:

    urabask said:

    blairre said:

    The insane grind of this new mod has already been daunting the amount of lanolin drops from he encounters sucks . Can we please have turtle moults and lanolin added to the chests in fbi like five a run or something otherwise its just going to be another useless dungeon

    lol five a run and the price would crash to 1k a piece or some nonsense. It's intended to be a grind.

    Lanolin should have a chance to drop but you can't really make it a common drop because people can finish FBI in 20-30 minutes. Although the dragon turtle moult drop rate is really bad. Spent four hours grinding out HEs last night, got 4 Evermelt Spring water, 4 Frozenfar Mistletoe and 2 dragon turtle moult. At the rate it's going I'm going to end up selling the purple mats to buy the turtle moults I need : \

    You have to grind to get to fbi you have to grind to get to the new 10 man so other then peoples greed which you are stating should be the deciding factor it shouldn't be that much of a grind

    The way it's designed makes it clear they intended for this to be at least a month long process even for the people that are rushing it. The drop rates you're suggesting would drastically cut down on that. They've even said that they intend for restoration mats to be part of the economy so when you've got a minority of the playerbase rushing through FBI to get the mats that the rest of the playerbase has to grind HEs for it breaks that interaction. If you want to rush through the mat requirements then the AH is there and it really isn't all that expensive at this point.
    They said they where going to be fixxing the chests in dungeons to make burning a key everytime worth it Adding lanolin and turtle moetes does that
    But it also breaks their design for the module as a whole. They have plenty of other options for fixing the problem with dungeon rewards.
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  • santralafaxsantralafax Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    urabask said:

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    lol five a run and the price would crash to 1k a piece or some nonsense. It's intended to be a grind.

    Lanolin should have a chance to drop but you can't really make it a common drop because people can finish FBI in 20-30 minutes. Although the dragon turtle moult drop rate is really bad. Spent four hours grinding out HEs last night, got 4 Evermelt Spring water, 4 Frozenfar Mistletoe and 2 dragon turtle moult. At the rate it's going I'm going to end up selling the purple mats to buy the turtle moults I need : \

    Good! It should drop in price. Ran 20-30 HE's without a single drop or a boots for that matter. I understand where you get your AD from, but it's not good for the game.

    If you think 20-30 runs seems low, it probably is. It's my sampling of how much grind/RNG they built into it. I hate HE's.
  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User

    urabask said:

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    lol five a run and the price would crash to 1k a piece or some nonsense. It's intended to be a grind.

    Lanolin should have a chance to drop but you can't really make it a common drop because people can finish FBI in 20-30 minutes. Although the dragon turtle moult drop rate is really bad. Spent four hours grinding out HEs last night, got 4 Evermelt Spring water, 4 Frozenfar Mistletoe and 2 dragon turtle moult. At the rate it's going I'm going to end up selling the purple mats to buy the turtle moults I need : \

    Good! It should drop in price. Ran 20-30 HE's without a single drop or a boots for that matter. I understand where you get your AD from, but it's not good for the game.

    If you think 20-30 runs seems low, it probably is. It's my sampling of how much grind/RNG they built into it. I hate HE's.
    I get my AD from running dungeons on three toons. The 2.5k players getting AD from selling mats is good for the game though.
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  • blairreblairre Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    How is that good for the game and I really don't think the 2.5s are the ones selling it...
  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    blairre said:

    How is that good for the game and I really don't think the 2.5s are the ones selling it...

    Pffft. I've been in lonelywood HE runs with 5+ players that had no business bothering with lanolin. More than enough people that are not able to run FBI farm it to make AD. Given the amount of catching up they have to do I don't really see a problem with that.

    3.3k+ players really are in no position to complain about RNG/cost of restoration mats when many of them benefited from the leadership AD, the tradebar store rework, selling/using mod 5 armor etc. etc.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,463 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    The problem is lanolin does not drop. At least, not for me after 10.5. I ran over 30 big HE in SoMI. I got 0 lanolin. I tired opening reward when I earned one. I tried stashing 10 rewards and open them all at once. No difference. No lanolin. After all these HEs, I only got one thing special (a purple something water) but I don't even know if it is useful.
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  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User

    The problem is lanolin does not drop. At least, not for me after 10.5. I ran over 30 big HE in SoMI. I got 0 lanolin. I tired opening reward when I earned one. I tried stashing 10 rewards and open them all at once. No difference. No lanolin. After all these HEs, I only got one thing special (a purple something water) but I don't even know if it is useful.

    Lanolin doesn't drop from SoMI HEs. Only turtle moult and the epic mats.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,463 Arc User
    urabask said:

    The problem is lanolin does not drop. At least, not for me after 10.5. I ran over 30 big HE in SoMI. I got 0 lanolin. I tired opening reward when I earned one. I tried stashing 10 rewards and open them all at once. No difference. No lanolin. After all these HEs, I only got one thing special (a purple something water) but I don't even know if it is useful.

    Lanolin doesn't drop from SoMI HEs. Only turtle moult and the epic mats.
    Thank you. That explains that. However, I also did not get any turtle moult. I got 1 epic mat.
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  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User

    urabask said:

    The problem is lanolin does not drop. At least, not for me after 10.5. I ran over 30 big HE in SoMI. I got 0 lanolin. I tired opening reward when I earned one. I tried stashing 10 rewards and open them all at once. No difference. No lanolin. After all these HEs, I only got one thing special (a purple something water) but I don't even know if it is useful.

    Lanolin doesn't drop from SoMI HEs. Only turtle moult and the epic mats.
    Thank you. That explains that. However, I also did not get any turtle moult. I got 1 epic mat.
    Drop rate for the turtle moult is really low. I spent four hours grinding HEs last night and only got four. At the rate it's going 40 turtle moult takes about as much time to grind as 100 lanolin : \
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  • cdnbisoncdnbison Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 806 Arc User
    urabask said:



    Drop rate for the turtle moult is really low. I spent four hours grinding HEs last night and only got four. At the rate it's going 40 turtle moult takes about as much time to grind as 100 lanolin : \

    Must be nice. In a similar timeframe, I've got exactly zero. In total, I've had one non-standard reward drop from HEs - an Evermelt spring water. That's been it.

    As a DC, it reminds me of the IWD HEs, in that our "Great Success" will be based on our healing, but we won't be able to heal sufficiently to actually achieve that, due to lifesteal / self-healing options available to other players. :/
  • gabrieldourdengabrieldourden Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    Yup. They should up the moult drop rate. Yesterday I did somewhere between 50 and 60 HEs and no moult. All those I have come from treasure maps.
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  • brewaldbrewald Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 212 Arc User

    Yup. They should up the moult drop rate. Yesterday I did somewhere between 50 and 60 HEs and no moult. All those I have come from treasure maps.

    Absolutly agree,
    We are all in same position, 95% of moults come from treasure map.
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  • feanor70118feanor70118 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,170 Arc User
    I've done over 25 treasure maps today and received exactly one moult.

    The drop rate is unacceptably low. Given how much grind players have already put into this my suggestion is either remove the moult requirement from crafting and make moult - 1 silvery dragon scale at the dragonborn trader or give us all a free reclaimable package of 40 moult.

    This is the most absurdly frustrating and stupid grind yet from a company that specializes in them.
  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User
    cdnbison said:

    urabask said:



    Drop rate for the turtle moult is really low. I spent four hours grinding HEs last night and only got four. At the rate it's going 40 turtle moult takes about as much time to grind as 100 lanolin : \

    Must be nice. In a similar timeframe, I've got exactly zero. In total, I've had one non-standard reward drop from HEs - an Evermelt spring water. That's been it.

    As a DC, it reminds me of the IWD HEs, in that our "Great Success" will be based on our healing, but we won't be able to heal sufficiently to actually achieve that, due to lifesteal / self-healing options available to other players. :/
    I've ground most of my mats on my DC. The amount of damage you do has nothing to do with the drop rate.
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  • cilginordekcilginordek Member Posts: 459 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    +1 for upping moult drop rate, either from HEs or from Treasures.
  • indalordindalord Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 51 Arc User
    Hello,
    Too low, yes. Lost of pleasure in game with that ! Please, dear Devs do something to change that.
    i have 2 toons, I need 80 Drag turtle moults, may be more. In 1 month, I had only 5 moults !
    thank you to fix that
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