This is the first game ive played that it feels like im being punished for wanting to have the best gear. im all about the grind but currently its insane. if you had to do a set number of hes thats one thing, but rng on hes? that was just an example. the way twisted weapons were introduced was perfect. its a shame what we have now. even further back, dungeons farming was amazing. why? REWARDS! why are people quitting? REWARDS! thats all thats really been taken away. Everything is either BOP BTA BTC, how can players proceed? Want players to play pvp? ADD REWARDS RANDOMLY TO THE END OF GAMES! they wont mind getting slaughtered if theyre profiting from it. Want players to play pve? REWARDS! make rings unbound. artifacts. anything that makes mindlessly farming not feel like a chore. guess what... most players dont care about being bis. thats why when you force grinds for gear/ weapons, they dont do it. They want wealth. The players who care about bis will pay $ to get items that are farmed by the others. Thats why mod 5 worked. Use your brains. Sorry for the rant, just felt like it.
Some players quit because they are done Some players are still here but just login- logout and few more because they don't have any interest in such contents. Some players are grinding like hell to get the new weapon set and maybe the gear set, but the structure of SKT goes nowhere. As soon as we have all we want (2-3 months?), they will be empty areas/ wasted assets (IWD?) that no one wants to see it again in all your life because at the end you hate it (http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1225249/the-insane-grind-with-skt-somi). Really...I'm worried because after this insane grind, there's...nothing: you show your new shining and powerful stuff and what next? Kill Orcus in solo mode in 2 hits?
Oltreverso guild leader Maga Othelma - DC | Svalvolo - SW | Dente Avvelenato- GWF
Stupid grind and powercreep killed this game, apart from bad concepts and missing classbalance, caused by stupidly overbuffed feats and powers. Starting at mod 4 my guild was huge, several sides of member online, now we got an alliancesystem and we are far less player in a whole than in one single guild in mod 4. Atm we got 1 Dungeon to run, wich spends some kind of challenge but zero rewards. CN, T2, elol can´t be considered to be challenging. When I started I got plenty of dungeons to run and the most challenging was CN apart from epic Dread Vault, I also liked those epic version of idris and more.
silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
there is really little for alliances and guilds to do.. there is not much group content, and right now everyone is making more fishing.. Im sure trial will be run a ton in the coming days..
but really, when you can make more fishing, then you can running CN .. what is the point, there is little.
Some are ok with it, some are not.
This has been a long road to where we are at.. however, every mmo has extreme highs and extreme lows, this one is just going through one of those really low points to me. Where boring grind replaces any real content.
Im done really yelling at players.. I think if you are not interested in this stuff, it really is time for us to look at other options, there are alot of other games who deserve our dollars more then this one atm.
Not saying it cant get better.. but for the next few months at least, we are not its not ..
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silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
Stupid grind and powercreep killed this game, apart from bad concepts and missing classbalance, caused by stupidly overbuffed feats and powers. Starting at mod 4 my guild was huge, several sides of member online, now we got an alliancesystem and we are far less player in a whole than in one single guild in mod 4. Atm we got 1 Dungeon to run, wich spends some kind of challenge but zero rewards. CN, T2, elol can´t be considered to be challenging. When I started I got plenty of dungeons to run and the most challenging was CN apart from epic Dread Vault, I also liked those epic version of idris and more.
The thing of it is.. we are giving such LITTLE in terms of group content, that when you run it 3-4-5000 times, you cant possible think its challenging anymore.
Its my thought and option that this game , will not get back what its lost, until they have a level increase, a linear rebalance of enchants and stats, a vaiable solution to progress in game, a general rebalance of classes, a viable option to cap power curving extremeness and most importantly after all that.. a massive slew of group content.. 5-6 new dungeons, 2-3 new skirms, 1-2 new raids.
But its not going to happen, the golden age of this game is closed, the silver age has passed, we played through the bronze.. we are getting down to the pewter and tin ages now my friends.
I dont think any optimisms expressed, really show reality of what they are willing to give us.
I think what you want out of this game, isnt coming around again, its time for some of us to look elsewhere, because I do believe, that being too negative at the folks here, wont help them at all, if they want to struggle on and they still enjoy it, then fine.. its a player choice now.
I do not at all believe, that this game will get better, or achieve anything like the older days, nothing recently has shown me it will.
Some of the folks in my alliance have resorted to running stuff with intentionally poor party compositions, often carrying someone along the way.
But it's still bad if you can complete almost any existing dungeon (except for FBI) in <15min even if you go, for instance, with no tank.
And ditto what folks said about about the grind being all that's left, and it being brutal for alts. I had 6 toons going in SKT (3 unlocked FBI, 3 on their way) but when SoMI came out it became clear I wouldn't be taking more than 1 toon through... maybe 2 if I get depressed and delusional.
The grind is insane and discouraging, it feels like they haven't made a single good design decision in 2 mods.
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guille23mxMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 340Arc User
Some of the folks in my alliance have resorted to running stuff with intentionally poor party compositions, often carrying someone along the way.
But it's still bad if you can complete almost any existing dungeon (except for FBI) in <15min even if you go, for instance, with no tank.
And ditto what folks said about about the grind being all that's left, and it being brutal for alts. I had 6 toons going in SKT (3 unlocked FBI, 3 on their way) but when SoMI came out it became clear I wouldn't be taking more than 1 toon through... maybe 2 if I get depressed and delusional.
The grind is insane and discouraging, it feels like they haven't made a single good design decision in 2 mods.</p>
You want to make us grind? How about you create more dungeons, bring back the old ones and make us grind those?!
Is it that hard to figure out?
I would add to your comment here that they can turn the dungeons back to what they used to be as well though. Simply stated as no more of this 1 hit killed by an NPC bs.
And yea I see the map fragments that have been recycled from older dungeons and now are being used in storyline quests which I think it's just beyond shameful and lazy.
The writing is on the wall when a Dungeon and Dragon based game has it's entire end game content reduced to HE's and fishing......
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forumnamesuxsMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 490Arc User
@silverkelt Shame? Lol, I seem to remember a devpost at the end of last year, expressing how proud they were of how smooth the mod6 release was. Granted, they have switched out some folks in their team since then, who have admitted it wasn't quite as smooth as they wanted it to be, but like most old elephants, I don't forget nor forgive so easily. Well, my memory is more that of a gold fish, but you get what I mean.
Some of the folks in my alliance have resorted to running stuff with intentionally poor party compositions, often carrying someone along the way.
But it's still bad if you can complete almost any existing dungeon (except for FBI) in <15min even if you go, for instance, with no tank.
And ditto what folks said about about the grind being all that's left, and it being brutal for alts. I had 6 toons going in SKT (3 unlocked FBI, 3 on their way) but when SoMI came out it became clear I wouldn't be taking more than 1 toon through... maybe 2 if I get depressed and delusional.
The grind is insane and discouraging, it feels like they haven't made a single good design decision in 2 mods.</p>
IMO the problem isn't the grind itself. There's always been a bit of it in neverwinter. The problem is that there used to be a mod low on grind after a grind intensive one, but with 10.5 we got another very grind heavy mod after a grind heavy mod. That's too much. There used to be some time between two very grindy phases, but now the devs don't want to give us a break.
I don't know if that's a sign things aren't going so well in the dev team. When you feel forced to rely on insanely grindy content to artificially inflate your frigging metrics instead of trying to produce engaging quality content players will want to replay because they like it, there's a big underlying issue in your team that isn't going to be easy to solve. We'll see if they're up to the task next mod.
My game play is greatly reduced thiese days, i've dicided that i will not grind the new boons tree, too much grind for to litlle result, most of my time i've spent playing alts, but i cant spend my RP on them or my gronw would stuck...
i Think i will get a new game in Black Friday, and take a time from this one, i will restar to play when (IF) some improviment come...
Dont get me wrong this is not a Bad game, the thing is that it used to be much better than it is now and that is really sad...
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darthpotaterMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,261Arc User
edited November 2016
The problem I see is that they want to keep us bussy while they release a new module with new things... I think this is the wrong aproach.
Imagine you can:
Do daily missions OR Fish OR do Heroic encounter OR do a dungeon OR do other things and get similar progression in the campaign, the gear etc.
So you can do what you want or like and have progression.
Imagine you can:
Get the super rare items having luck (RNG) OR grinding for them. For exaple doing CN 30 times you can buy a shard of Orcus or a +5 ring.
Imagine:
Everything is unbound or bound to account
Imagine:
You can get ANY item playing the game. With more or less grind.
I can write more but you get the idea. Then you will have a happy community doing what they want in the game and having fun playing the game in the way the like. Paying for the items they dont want to farm or other things, but having fun.
Agreed! You should be able to complete the game while not being forced to do so many repetative things over and over.
I don't mind that they put one or two things inside a HE that you need, but forcing us to do how many HE? How much lanolin do you need for the armor set and the weapons. Somewhere close to 200.
If you run HE fast, you can do 1 every 5 minute. But you have to run between them too, so it is more. That is 12 HE an hour with super speed. If you get 3 lanolin from those you are super lucky. So, to get all lanolin you need, that is 66 hours with a speed faster then anyone can do and with more luck that anyone has. It is probably more like 100 hours of focused HE just to get there. Who wants to do that? Show me one person.
I don't know the droprate of turtle moults, but it seems like it is far less then what for lanolin. Maybe 1 per hour. Check your main and offhand and count how many total hours of HE you have to do in this mod.
They did something good by adding lanolin and moults to treasure maps, but these drops should come from the dungeons as well. That is what people want to do. They are forcing people to do HE instead of doing dungeons. It is like they want us to kill ourselves out of boredom. I don't see any other/more sensible reason to do this. They hate their own game.
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a word from the author ... I used to play this game a lot with my friends and guild. I met a lot of people from all over the world that I am still friends with IRL I enjoyed going into dungeons and going ok you get valindras coffins from 12 to 3 you get from 3 to 6 ect you died because you didnt do the fight mechanics right yea you could steamroll dungeons like karrundax or Pirate King to get some newer players gear and then bam they could be in the doing tier 2 with you too castle never was a challenge for people who weren't glitching if you were overgeared it just took a min or two off your total time you could still die of you didnt play well ... and then came the power creep.... and we were overpowering valindra hey just let all the coffins pop pile everything in the middle and watch the GWF CW grinder do its thing. then it went to just burn her she wont even get a chance to summon coffins slam face in keyboard collect loot. but now Its mod 10.5 and I am tired of playing by myself. timegates and grind gates and the constant voninblod scrounging the turtle moults the fishing the dailies the ostorian relic's make sure you go back and do a quest in each area so you dont miss out on your bryn shandar rep and grind that lanolin and fish thise reagents and on and on and on if i dont play 2-4 hours a day I wont have this X to run that dungeon Y but if I run that dungeon Y I have to use vonin to replenish my armor I wont have enough vonin to restore my weapon or restore the gear that drops from the dungeon I am a HAMSTER in a wheel running all by myself and I dont play MMOs to play alone and this makes me sad because i really liked this game... *sniff*
Crypic went oh noes what do we do? better mecahnincs that make you have to actually figure out bosses? nah lets throw some new damage at them called Black ice damage and make them grind all new gear and keep it "impowered" We all went ugh ok I will get the black ice gear and empower it and we went ok this isnt too grindy and it holds its charge for 8 hrs and Black ice is easy to come by I can deal with this.. then Cryptyc were like hey we are making a 25 man boss to fight !!! and we all went yay we can get our whole guild together or your guild and a friends guild and go kill this Nemesis of the Gods it will be awesome! and then cryptic coughed awkwardly and went ... um yea you have to que by going to this gate at a certain time so we can throw you in a fight with 24 other ramdom yahoos who may know 0 about the fight and have questing blues on... oh and if you picked one of the arbitrary abilities when leveling up it will make the FPS drop for everyone to about 1-4 FPS and everyone will hate you and shout very unkind things to you in PMs and global and other channels HAVE FUN!! We were all like what in the nine hells guys? and then crypic went hey you know those heroic encounters you hated so much with IWD? well we threw a bunch more in this mod and the next 2 mods hope you enjoy..... and we all went "dude thats jammed up we told you we didnt like those because it makes the tanks and healers get lower scores and thus its not worth it for them we have to overwhelm them by sheer dps numbers and they just arent fun ... "well I dont know what to do" said cryptic "how lets take all of your dungeons and up your level cap to 70 make all your artifact gear obsolete just as you are finishing the RP grind? We were like "youre just messing with us arent you ... please say this is just and april fools joke 6 days late...." and then Cryptic was like "newp..." cryptic goes well maybe if we just give you a place alll to your own all buy yourself where you can do dailes and heroics and you can summon dragons just for your guild to kill is that gonna make you happy? and we go yes that would thank you and cryptic crosses its arms in a huff and mutters under its breath "fine Im gonna make I grindy as fu.." "what was that cryptic?" oh? nothing.... here have a stronghold with cool new super powered armors and weapons...artifact of course gotta keep you on that HAMSTERING grind wheel. and we said HEY we already steamroll all the 70 dungeons what is new weapons and armor gonna be good for? and Cryptic replied "how about a 10 man raid boss then? and a story writtien by R.A Salvatore? and totally not steve from accounting's drisst fan fiction? and we all said well can we que together in a group or is this gonna be a 10 yahoo hoedown this time like the 25 man clustersmudge? and the were like oh yea we learned our lesson last time yea que as a group! oh thats ok sounds cool then lets give this a try.... wait why is part of my group Unrepentant, my guild, and half the guild xX420Lannisters0FAzzerothXx and why is there a player named BiggNickDigger666 yelling obscenities at our healer? and Cryptic says oh you have to que at a certain time again so your other 5 men might no be your guild..but after a month of doing that you can que whenever you want so ther likelyhood getting another guild lower ... not impossible just improbable.... and we all make a sound that is part exclamation and part curse word like DAGURRNT and FUUUUGNNNTH and and all "well would bringing back the old dungeons cheer you up? and we all went oh that thing we have been screaming about in the forums for 2 mods yes god yes HAMSTER yes it will you have FINALLY LISTENED TO THE PLAYERS AND.... they are leveling dungoens arent they....and Cryptic coughs awkwardly again and goes "yes?" we all collectivly facepalm and say "you do know it takes about 2-3 days to go from 1-60 right? with the cheap rank 5,6,7s you can put in your utility slots? one day of you work at it? so those dungeons you may play once before you out level the gear and dungeon? and you actually spent man hours on that? like paid people actual money to spend time to develop and re-tool those dungeons for a handful of people to see once? *slow clap* wow... just wow.... so whats the dungeon for this mod crypty? and a shocked expresion comes across its face and it goes " dungeon? what do you mean" you know cryptic like "dungeons and Dragons Neverwinter?" its the first part of it .. and cryptic looks around for a min and goes "we got some new quests? and some boons? and you can go back and do old quests? and we fixed a bunch of stuff annnnnd oh wait here is a new dungon its called castlenever!" oh so like the old dungeon? "noooo this one is new and its got new bosses" ok I will give it a try *SMASH* oh I steamrolled it sorry... hey wait a second this is just a bunch of heroic encounters human centipeded together... it a castle never onsie "no its not!" says Cryptic Yea it is mate heres the one where you kill the guys going into that green dome thing just like in the one in well of dragons! ... "ok" cryptic says "get ready for a new mod its gonna be great new dungeons a 10 man its gonna be awesome just what this game needs to bring back the players!!!" uh hey cryptic? this new mod? I cant see anyhting and the glare is glare is giving me a headache ... "oh my bad dave was leaning too hard on the contrast button... hows that? hmmm better hey its a town like ...Caer-Konig.... and a snowy snow level and a woodsy snow level kinda like.... guys? did you just hit up Icewind Dale with the find and replace tool? Voninblods for black ice and whatnot? "nooo well maybe a bit ... a bit yes but we have a icey watery area like that kevin cosner flick only cold and no kevin cosner...and I dungeon and 10 man thingy! where you can get gear!"oh cool let me run it an get wait why cant I wear this gear what dropped in the dungeon? "oh you sillygoose you have to restore it!!" says cryptic oh ok what do I need lanolin? ok so off to do some heroics and *5 hours later* um I only have like 3 lanolin how many do I need for my boots? 25!!!!!! like 25 a peice or are the boots and chest and helm different? "oooh im not telling!! " says Cryptic. my guildmate abaddon leans over and whispers its 50 for the chest and like 25 for the boots I think... WHAT? ARE YOU HAMSTER KIDDING ME? so like 125 150 lanolin for armor?and let me see the weapons hey no lanolin just this bibliothol and reliquary wax I assume you make from professions... I can probably make it what does it ta.... 20 LANOLIN EACH? and then some random stuff from fishing? *eye twictches and blood runs from the nose* heh .... heh ... hehehehehhehehehhehehhAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH *rocks back and forth in his kayak .. oh sorry Khyhek and cries*
yes Cryptic thats exactly what I want to do in my Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game sit by myself in a Kayak playing a 3 button Tiger hand held FISHING game for hours on end hoping against hope that I can get the magical campaign Macguffin so the loot that drops in the 1 dungeon will be worth something nooo I dont want to run dungeons with my friends I wanna smack around the same 6 mobs over and over and over and over in the same 3 heroics I been doing since mod 4 kill all the things. click all the things and the ever elusive kill all the things click on some things and then kill all the things. I wanna run around with 30 people and no interaction between any of us other than racing to the next heroic encounter or I wanna stare at the back end of a boat until its time to play my 3 buttons like a little fischer price piano beause that is sooo much more fun than hopping in mumble and going hey anyone wanna run a dungeon? which one? oh we got like 6 who needs gear? yay lets go run that dungeon. nope much rather hop in mumble and go ... what ya doin? fishing? oh ... and then 3 hours of silence because our brains have been bored to mush.
That is a beautiful blog and it's all absolutely true. Amen. And now I definitely know I won't be grinding the new content. I'll just work on new toons til I'm blue in the face.
Hell they could even revitalise the Foundry just by making it drop Voninblod! I'm sure lots of people would prefer to actually run content for that stuff rather than mindlessly clicking on relics or chasing from HE to HE.
The original development team made the combat system and the starting zones. Those two things are whats good about Neverwinter. Now they cant design, they cant code, they cant debug. There is some light in the art team ( Baphomet is a truly a great looking demon but you get to see him like once a week for 5 mins.... ).
Neverwinter hasnt improved at all since open beta. Im still here because I like the combat system and leveling a new character from 1 to 60 is actually the best experience this game has to offer - its actually fun.
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yes Cryptic thats exactly what I want to do in my Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game sit by myself in a Kayak playing a 3 button Tiger hand held FISHING game for hours on end hoping against hope that I can get the magical campaign Macguffin so the loot that drops in the 1 dungeon will be worth something nooo I dont want to run dungeons with my friends I wanna smack around the same 6 mobs over and over and over and over in the same 3 heroics I been doing since mod 4 kill all the things. click all the things and the ever elusive kill all the things click on some things and then kill all the things. I wanna run around with 30 people and no interaction between any of us other than racing to the next heroic encounter or I wanna stare at the back end of a boat until its time to play my 3 buttons like a little fischer price piano beause that is sooo much more fun than hopping in mumble and going hey anyone wanna run a dungeon? which one? oh we got like 6 who needs gear? yay lets go run that dungeon. nope much rather hop in mumble and go ... what ya doin? fishing? oh ... and then 3 hours of silence because our brains have been bored to mush.
emilemo, they are not same team, almost all of original team prior to mod 6 all got axed, and they had replace with other new devs that not fully trained and lack of expierances, now we seeing all same mistakes when they delay patches by several weeks. they are wondering why players really hated it and drove players away into other games, that what wrong with current dev team that has no clue why they are breaking the game with more bugs.
yes, original team can make dungeons and contents, and current team just barely made SKT and Underdark zones and recycle old zones as new zones with a terrible mindset for RNG that we all dont like it and hated.
original team made RPG format,. and current team just made "casino format".
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I want my Neverwinter back !!
It is so sad, I was on my 7th character in Ebon Downs and some new player was asking about the 5 man skirmish (Defend the Temple). They wanted to complete it for the achievements before leveling past it. I had to inform them the game no longer has "Throne of Idris" among others, so completing achievements on the PC is implausible. They had waited 40 minutes in the que and nothing. I explained the players no longer support Ebon Downs, simply because the developers have abandoned the area to focus on new copies of old dungeons for level 70 players. Many of my characters will never get the dungeon achievements. But rumor has it, Idris has taken up tennis and is quite good at the game.
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Some players are still here but just login- logout and few more because they don't have any interest in such contents.
Some players are grinding like hell to get the new weapon set and maybe the gear set, but the structure of SKT goes nowhere. As soon as we have all we want (2-3 months?), they will be empty areas/ wasted assets (IWD?) that no one wants to see it again in all your life because at the end you hate it (http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1225249/the-insane-grind-with-skt-somi).
Really...I'm worried because after this insane grind, there's...nothing: you show your new shining and powerful stuff and what next? Kill Orcus in solo mode in 2 hits?
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Maga Othelma - DC | Svalvolo - SW | Dente Avvelenato- GWF
Starting at mod 4 my guild was huge, several sides of member online, now we got an alliancesystem and we are far less player in a whole than in one single guild in mod 4.
Atm we got 1 Dungeon to run, wich spends some kind of challenge but zero rewards.
CN, T2, elol can´t be considered to be challenging.
When I started I got plenty of dungeons to run and the most challenging was CN apart from epic Dread Vault, I also liked those epic version of idris and more.
but really, when you can make more fishing, then you can running CN .. what is the point, there is little.
Some are ok with it, some are not.
This has been a long road to where we are at.. however, every mmo has extreme highs and extreme lows, this one is just going through one of those really low points to me. Where boring grind replaces any real content.
Im done really yelling at players.. I think if you are not interested in this stuff, it really is time for us to look at other options, there are alot of other games who deserve our dollars more then this one atm.
Not saying it cant get better.. but for the next few months at least, we are not its not ..
Its my thought and option that this game , will not get back what its lost, until they have a level increase, a linear rebalance of enchants and stats, a vaiable solution to progress in game, a general rebalance of classes, a viable option to cap power curving extremeness and most importantly after all that.. a massive slew of group content.. 5-6 new dungeons, 2-3 new skirms, 1-2 new raids.
But its not going to happen, the golden age of this game is closed, the silver age has passed, we played through the bronze.. we are getting down to the pewter and tin ages now my friends.
I dont think any optimisms expressed, really show reality of what they are willing to give us.
I think what you want out of this game, isnt coming around again, its time for some of us to look elsewhere, because I do believe, that being too negative at the folks here, wont help them at all, if they want to struggle on and they still enjoy it, then fine.. its a player choice now.
I do not at all believe, that this game will get better, or achieve anything like the older days, nothing recently has shown me it will.
But it's still bad if you can complete almost any existing dungeon (except for FBI) in <15min even if you go, for instance, with no tank.
And ditto what folks said about about the grind being all that's left, and it being brutal for alts. I had 6 toons going in SKT (3 unlocked FBI, 3 on their way) but when SoMI came out it became clear I wouldn't be taking more than 1 toon through... maybe 2 if I get depressed and delusional.
The grind is insane and discouraging, it feels like they haven't made a single good design decision in 2 mods.
And yea I see the map fragments that have been recycled from older dungeons and now are being used in storyline quests which I think it's just beyond shameful and lazy.
Shame? Lol, I seem to remember a devpost at the end of last year, expressing how proud they were of how smooth the mod6 release was. Granted, they have switched out some folks in their team since then, who have admitted it wasn't quite as smooth as they wanted it to be, but like most old elephants, I don't forget nor forgive so easily.
Well, my memory is more that of a gold fish, but you get what I mean.
I don't know if that's a sign things aren't going so well in the dev team. When you feel forced to rely on insanely grindy content to artificially inflate your frigging metrics instead of trying to produce engaging quality content players will want to replay because they like it, there's a big underlying issue in your team that isn't going to be easy to solve. We'll see if they're up to the task next mod.
i Think i will get a new game in Black Friday, and take a time from this one, i will restar to play when (IF) some improviment come...
Dont get me wrong this is not a Bad game, the thing is that it used to be much better than it is now and that is really sad...
Imagine you can:
Do daily missions OR Fish OR do Heroic encounter OR do a dungeon OR do other things
and get similar progression in the campaign, the gear etc.
So you can do what you want or like and have progression.
Imagine you can:
Get the super rare items having luck (RNG) OR grinding for them. For exaple doing CN 30 times you can buy a shard of Orcus or a +5 ring.
Imagine:
Everything is unbound or bound to account
Imagine:
You can get ANY item playing the game. With more or less grind.
I can write more but you get the idea. Then you will have a happy community doing what they want in the game and having fun playing the game in the way the like. Paying for the items they dont want to farm or other things, but having fun.
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I don't mind that they put one or two things inside a HE that you need, but forcing us to do how many HE? How much lanolin do you need for the armor set and the weapons. Somewhere close to 200.
If you run HE fast, you can do 1 every 5 minute. But you have to run between them too, so it is more. That is 12 HE an hour with super speed. If you get 3 lanolin from those you are super lucky. So, to get all lanolin you need, that is 66 hours with a speed faster then anyone can do and with more luck that anyone has. It is probably more like 100 hours of focused HE just to get there. Who wants to do that? Show me one person.
I don't know the droprate of turtle moults, but it seems like it is far less then what for lanolin. Maybe 1 per hour. Check your main and offhand and count how many total hours of HE you have to do in this mod.
They did something good by adding lanolin and moults to treasure maps, but these drops should come from the dungeons as well. That is what people want to do. They are forcing people to do HE instead of doing dungeons. It is like they want us to kill ourselves out of boredom. I don't see any other/more sensible reason to do this. They hate their own game.
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a word from the author ...
I used to play this game a lot with my friends and guild. I met a lot of people from all over the world that I am still friends with IRL I enjoyed going into dungeons and going ok you get valindras coffins from 12 to 3 you get from 3 to 6 ect you died because you didnt do the fight mechanics right yea you could steamroll dungeons like karrundax or Pirate King to get some newer players gear and then bam they could be in the doing tier 2 with you too castle never was a challenge for people who weren't glitching if you were overgeared it just took a min or two off your total time you could still die of you didnt play well ... and then came the power creep.... and we were overpowering valindra hey just let all the coffins pop pile everything in the middle and watch the GWF CW grinder do its thing. then it went to just burn her she wont even get a chance to summon coffins slam face in keyboard collect loot. but now Its mod 10.5 and I am tired of playing by myself. timegates and grind gates and the constant voninblod scrounging the turtle moults the fishing the dailies the ostorian relic's make sure you go back and do a quest in each area so you dont miss out on your bryn shandar rep and grind that lanolin and fish thise reagents and on and on and on if i dont play 2-4 hours a day I wont have this X to run that dungeon Y but if I run that dungeon Y I have to use vonin to replenish my armor I wont have enough vonin to restore my weapon or restore the gear that drops from the dungeon I am a HAMSTER in a wheel running all by myself and I dont play MMOs to play alone and this makes me sad because i really liked this game... *sniff*
Crypic went oh noes what do we do? better mecahnincs that make you have to actually figure out bosses? nah lets throw some new damage at them called Black ice damage and make them grind all new gear and keep it "impowered" We all went ugh ok I will get the black ice gear and empower it and we went ok this isnt too grindy and it holds its charge for 8 hrs and Black ice is easy to come by I can deal with this.. then Cryptyc were like hey we are making a 25 man boss to fight !!! and we all went yay we can get our whole guild together or your guild and a friends guild and go kill this Nemesis of the Gods it will be awesome! and then cryptic coughed awkwardly and went ... um yea you have to que by going to this gate at a certain time so we can throw you in a fight with 24 other ramdom yahoos who may know 0 about the fight and have questing blues on... oh and if you picked one of the arbitrary abilities when leveling up it will make the FPS drop for everyone to about 1-4 FPS and everyone will hate you and shout very unkind things to you in PMs and global and other channels HAVE FUN!! We were all like what in the nine hells guys? and then crypic went hey you know those heroic encounters you hated so much with IWD? well we threw a bunch more in this mod and the next 2 mods hope you enjoy..... and we all went "dude thats jammed up we told you we didnt like those because it makes the tanks and healers get lower scores and thus its not worth it for them we have to overwhelm them by sheer dps numbers and they just arent fun ... "well I dont know what to do" said cryptic "how lets take all of your dungeons and up your level cap to 70 make all your artifact gear obsolete just as you are finishing the RP grind? We were like "youre just messing with us arent you ... please say this is just and april fools joke 6 days late...." and then Cryptic was like "newp..." cryptic goes well maybe if we just give you a place alll to your own all buy yourself where you can do dailes and heroics and you can summon dragons just for your guild to kill is that gonna make you happy? and we go yes that would thank you and cryptic crosses its arms in a huff and mutters under its breath "fine Im gonna make I grindy as fu.." "what was that cryptic?" oh? nothing.... here have a stronghold with cool new super powered armors and weapons...artifact of course gotta keep you on that HAMSTERING grind wheel. and we said HEY we already steamroll all the 70 dungeons what is new weapons and armor gonna be good for? and Cryptic replied "how about a 10 man raid boss then? and a story writtien by R.A Salvatore? and totally not steve from accounting's drisst fan fiction? and we all said well can we que together in a group or is this gonna be a 10 yahoo hoedown this time like the 25 man clustersmudge? and the were like oh yea we learned our lesson last time yea que as a group! oh thats ok sounds cool then lets give this a try.... wait why is part of my group Unrepentant, my guild, and half the guild xX420Lannisters0FAzzerothXx and why is there a player named BiggNickDigger666 yelling obscenities at our healer? and Cryptic says oh you have to que at a certain time again so your other 5 men might no be your guild..but after a month of doing that you can que whenever you want so ther likelyhood getting another guild lower ... not impossible just improbable.... and we all make a sound that is part exclamation and part curse word like DAGURRNT and FUUUUGNNNTH and and all "well would bringing back the old dungeons cheer you up? and we all went oh that thing we have been screaming about in the forums for 2 mods yes god yes HAMSTER yes it will you have FINALLY LISTENED TO THE PLAYERS AND.... they are leveling dungoens arent they....and Cryptic coughs awkwardly again and goes "yes?" we all collectivly facepalm and say "you do know it takes about 2-3 days to go from 1-60 right? with the cheap rank 5,6,7s you can put in your utility slots? one day of you work at it? so those dungeons you may play once before you out level the gear and dungeon? and you actually spent man hours on that? like paid people actual money to spend time to develop and re-tool those dungeons for a handful of people to see once? *slow clap* wow... just wow.... so whats the dungeon for this mod crypty? and a shocked expresion comes across its face and it goes " dungeon? what do you mean" you know cryptic like "dungeons and Dragons Neverwinter?" its the first part of it .. and cryptic looks around for a min and goes "we got some new quests? and some boons? and you can go back and do old quests? and we fixed a bunch of stuff annnnnd oh wait here is a new dungon its called castlenever!" oh so like the old dungeon? "noooo this one is new and its got new bosses" ok I will give it a try *SMASH* oh I steamrolled it sorry... hey wait a second this is just a bunch of heroic encounters human centipeded together... it a castle never onsie "no its not!" says Cryptic Yea it is mate heres the one where you kill the guys going into that green dome thing just like in the one in well of dragons! ... "ok" cryptic says "get ready for a new mod its gonna be great new dungeons a 10 man its gonna be awesome just what this game needs to bring back the players!!!" uh hey cryptic? this new mod? I cant see anyhting and the glare is glare is giving me a headache ... "oh my bad dave was leaning too hard on the contrast button... hows that? hmmm better hey its a town like ...Caer-Konig.... and a snowy snow level and a woodsy snow level kinda like.... guys? did you just hit up Icewind Dale with the find and replace tool? Voninblods for black ice and whatnot? "nooo well maybe a bit ... a bit yes but we have a icey watery area like that kevin cosner flick only cold and no kevin cosner...and I dungeon and 10 man thingy! where you can get gear!"oh cool let me run it an get wait why cant I wear this gear what dropped in the dungeon? "oh you sillygoose you have to restore it!!" says cryptic oh ok what do I need lanolin? ok so off to do some heroics and *5 hours later* um I only have like 3 lanolin how many do I need for my boots? 25!!!!!! like 25 a peice or are the boots and chest and helm different? "oooh im not telling!! " says Cryptic. my guildmate abaddon leans over and whispers its 50 for the chest and like 25 for the boots I think... WHAT? ARE YOU HAMSTER KIDDING ME? so like 125 150 lanolin for armor?and let me see the weapons hey no lanolin just this bibliothol and reliquary wax I assume you make from professions... I can probably make it what does it ta.... 20 LANOLIN EACH? and then some random stuff from fishing? *eye twictches and blood runs from the nose* heh .... heh ... hehehehehhehehehhehehhAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH *rocks back and forth in his kayak .. oh sorry Khyhek and cries*
yes Cryptic thats exactly what I want to do in my Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game sit by myself in a Kayak playing a 3 button Tiger hand held FISHING game for hours on end hoping against hope that I can get the magical campaign Macguffin so the loot that drops in the 1 dungeon will be worth something nooo I dont want to run dungeons with my friends I wanna smack around the same 6 mobs over and over and over and over in the same 3 heroics I been doing since mod 4 kill all the things. click all the things and the ever elusive kill all the things click on some things and then kill all the things. I wanna run around with 30 people and no interaction between any of us other than racing to the next heroic encounter or I wanna stare at the back end of a boat until its time to play my 3 buttons like a little fischer price piano beause that is sooo much more fun than hopping in mumble and going hey anyone wanna run a dungeon? which one? oh we got like 6 who needs gear? yay lets go run that dungeon. nope much rather hop in mumble and go ... what ya doin? fishing? oh ... and then 3 hours of silence because our brains have been bored to mush.
Neverwinter hasnt improved at all since open beta. Im still here because I like the combat system and leveling a new character from 1 to 60 is actually the best experience this game has to offer - its actually fun.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
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they are wondering why players really hated it and drove players away into other games, that what wrong with current dev team that has no clue why they are breaking the game with more bugs.
yes, original team can make dungeons and contents, and current team just barely made SKT and Underdark zones and recycle old zones as new zones with a terrible mindset for RNG that we all dont like it and hated.
original team made RPG format,. and current team just made "casino format".