FYI people leaving the game due to this change isn't limited to just one platform. I am part of the number 1 guild/alliance on xbone and I have seen plenty of post about quiting.
What alliance is that? Also, there are roughly 14 million players, and let's face it, this game is going to Nintendo Switch eventually. For every person they lose they'll gain a thousand more. It will take them a long time to shrink the player base to the point where they can't keep HAMSTER around.
Stop wasting your effort, I can assure you the devs are reading this and THEY DO NOT CARE TO RESPOND. Just give up trying to to illicit some kind of response, cash is king and that's all this company cares about. Take your money elsewhere as plenty of others have done, maybe after they flop on the Black Friday sales the money hungry suits will take notice of the damage done to this game.
I've played this game for less than 4 hours since this announcement on PS4. Most people on my friends list are the same. Go watch a movie, hang out with friends or play something else. The devs are responsible for this mess too, it's not just the terrible loot and rng they have contributed to the mindless grind in everything and more in MOD 10 being such a boring expansion.
I MUST HAVE the new weapons cause im not able to do the current "challenges" without them so im grinding every module like a brainwashed clown - ole ole ole - offers so much fun! A good Friend of mine left cause he didnt want to participate in those cocksize contests any more. Bored off. Today i saw another friend and one of the best gwfs ive ever seen (he still ran with augment - 3.5k IL - always appreciated to buff you "THOR"!) selling his enchantments. "Hey what are you doing"? -Im leaving cause of the key change"....-.- Its a HAMSTER up Situation for so many customers...and no response about a new loot table? If this get through without changing the chests loot they wont see any Euro from me. Especially the new Copy and past Trial and the new weapons ...the majority doesnt need the new weapons cause there is no content you dont succeed without them. Im not insane to efford that grindy HAMSTER HAMSTER like in SKT... totally angry about the situation and everytime i read the coward statements from the coward devs of a coward company im wondering about their naked storys without having a deal with the customers...with us - WE ARE the customers and WE want to appreciate YOUR work by having fun with YOUR created content! But..seems like..the sails are set....so...our sails are set and i advice to everyone dont put real money in this game anymore..dont be such a fool in the name of yourself. No more kidding, no more lying - it s enough! If you want to ruin your game just decide to. Im playing since mod 2 and i remember...ahh..the fun - but it s gone - just reminiscences - so guys..keep on sailing into the new Era of Hardcore Grinding without spirit! Without adequate rewards for work...without all the possibilitys this game would actually have. But i tell you something... Dont forget your customers we re always there...but...we' ll forget to push you with money like you will forget to push the hamster rng and it s rewards....in that Case -->> Riot!
and about 40% of the time that stupid Haarles Treatsy on Dragonkind that you can't ever get out of your inventory.,
Holy hamster, HAARL'S IS THE JACKPOT, it's the only book worth more than 1 AD and it was down to a very sad 80K last I looked but 80K is still MAD PROFIT FOR YOUR KEY. And if you're getting Haarl's Treatise on 40% of your ESoT runs then I hate you and I want to kill you and wear your skin, because 40% Haarls would be AMAZING. And clearly not everyone is getting it at 40% because it sold for 80K (last I checked).
Question, since I did not bother with FBI (yet): As someone posted earlier, this change probably is mostly about key usage in FBI and the new 10.5 instances. Basically they want to push up our key consumption to generate income. We saw the first case of this with the Stronghold dragon fang lockboxes, but at least there they provided a way to get fangs without paying, and the content of those were known in advance.
Is there a chest in FBI that only can be opened with a paid key? And with no f2p way around it? And a similar solution in 10.5 instances?
If that is the case this game has definitely left the f2p model and gone p2p. That will make it a LOT less attractive to many.
WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE AND THERE AIN'T NO WAY WE'LL LOSE IT THIS IS OUR LIFE, THIS IS OUR SONG WE'LL FIGHT THE POWERS THAT BE JUST DON'T PICK OUR DESTINY 'CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW US, YOU DON'T BELONG
OH WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT NO, WE AIN'T GONNA TAKE IT OH WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE
Row, row, row your boat, Gently down the stream.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
That's what's so interesting about this whole mess. In their short-sighted ignorance they really are blind to how badly this will affect their bottom line. How they can think forcing people to pay to run dungeons is mind blowing.
And it's not about the old content guys. It's ALL about FBI and the new raid. The box in a box, and the three chests in AoS are why they're doing this. They think that people won't see what a blatant cash grab this is. And by the time the newer players reach FBI and AoS there won't be anyone left to run it with them.
The older players, that they're completely alienating WILL NOT stand for this type of treatment for very long. There are a multitude of great games out there - on ALL platforms - but they just don't get it.
I've never, in 16 years of playing MMOs, seen this level of... I can't think of a word for it...
It's truly astonishing.
There's a fundamental flaw in what and how they are trying to achieve.
They keep doing what they're doing, alienating / flushing out the old player base expecting to grab some quick cash from new blood hitting the servers, by means of changes like this, paywalls etc etc, forgetting something really important.
The game is building a really bad reputation because of changes like this (not to mention coal/trade bar store changes, etc etc) in terms of reliability, customer care (player base, feedback, suggested changes), if this keeps on going like this, soon enough, there won't be any new players to squeeze cash out from or their influx will be cut so thin, there won't be enough to support paychecks that keep the game alive.
and about 40% of the time that stupid Haarles Treatsy on Dragonkind that you can't ever get out of your inventory.,
Holy hamster, HAARL'S IS THE JACKPOT, it's the only book worth more than 1 AD and it was down to a very sad 80K last I looked but 80K is still MAD PROFIT FOR YOUR KEY. And if you're getting Haarl's Treatise on 40% of your ESoT runs then I hate you and I want to kill you and wear your skin, because 40% Haarls would be AMAZING. And clearly not everyone is getting it at 40% because it sold for 80K (last I checked).
Pre mod 6 Haarl's and Breyer's sold between 200 to 300K ad ^_^ We ran ESOT and Losty like madmen and made some nice buck out of the these runs. (you see why these things chaged ?)
But it was a time when you had to time your dodges to avoid Garakas' hand blast in order to stay alive, or have a tank smart enough to keep him facing the wall and a cleric good enough to keep the tank alive while taking a beating.
Oh those where the days, we used to have fun running dungeons and skirmishes
I can personally confirm that devs are reading. @Terramak has been posting more on the preview thread instead of this one.
Not about the key issue. I only found 1 post from him where he also tries to explain that this is only a bug fixing. So he dont say anything about if devs are listening/ thinking about the posts from the users etc. Thats not true what you saying, kreatyve. Maybe he reads the posts, but he dont answers questiosn about the key "fix".
1. One of things I noticed right away was who was giving us the not so good news. With the astral diamond change Cryptic new it was going to cause a big ruckus and used the right person (IMHO) to give us this not so good news.
2. The other difference is when the astral diamond change was being announced (we kinda of new it was coming) is was spelled out in the first post why it was going to change, what was going to change, and that there was possible future adjustments on the change itself based on how the new change was going to affect how the game was played. Looking at the key announcement we are not given the why and what of the change and are only given the vague future adjustment response of
"... because the Neverwinter design team will be better able to design rewards for chests going forward now that the bug has been fixed"
What does that really mean "design rewards for chests going forward"? This announcement was very different from the astral diamond announcement.
3. Looking at the CM response to the changes differ very drastically. With the astral diamond change almost all CM's saw the change as being positive (even though a majority of them ran some form of a leadership army). Because, of the support they provided I think it helped us focus on providing good feedback to the developers on some of the area's that were not considered when this change went into effect. In fact I believe it was because of our feedback that most ad sinks were removed, the wondrous bazaar price were reduced, and we got ad added to weekly tasks.
I think for the most part the key change announcement not only blind sided players but even the CM's seemed a little blind sided.
As the game moves forward with this change it is my understanding (based on forums responses to this change) that lots of people will be taking a break from neverwinter or plain just moving on to something else.
Will the departure be as big as Mod 6? I don't think so, but at this point there are a lot of unhappy players because this key change is bringing to light a lot of things that have frustrated the player base since Mod 6 went live.
Adjustments to the game have been made to help bring into balance all the things that made Mod 6 a complete disaster. A lot of those changes have been well thought out and executed smartly.
The new content is beautiful and I for one applaud the Devs for that effort!
However beautiful the content is, it is not as enjoyable as it could be. Contained with in the post is the many reasons why we are not currently having FUN playing the game.
1. "We stumbled with our vision and lost some of the fun. We reacted more than planned. Our Elemental Evil update didn’t deliver what we set out to build. There is a great story there and fantastic new adventures and encounters, but they were hidden behind systems designed smooth out some power curves, progression and allow for more growth in the future. The level cap increase was cumbersome and didn’t feel quite right. We were working to our goals and we hit them functionally, but we lost the spirit just enough to make it not fun to play the content. We were able to rally the team and community to find what we misplaced and get back the Neverwinter we all love." (this can be found in the middle of the paragraph)
We the players are finding the game close to being as much fun as when Element Evil (Mod 6) was first released.
and,
2. "Another key area for us is communication with our community. We are looking at additional ways to show our progress or create direct lines of communication back to our players whether it be through additional dev blogs or in-game activities. We will be working on a way to give the community a clearer picture of what we are working on and what we understand the top issues to be." (this can be found near the bottom)
There appears to be very little communication with the player base about the concerns that this announcement has brought to light.
and last,
3."That said, we are committed to making real progress this year and ensure Neverwinter remains the best D&D experience you can have on PC and console."
Unless I"m missing something it almost feels like this is actually a step backwards because we don't honestly see this key change helping make the game that much more fun to play.
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demonmongerMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,350Arc User
I agree with the post above... since this is a major issue, it seems more response should be given.
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I hate paying taxes! Why must I pay thousands of dollars in taxes when everything I buy is taxed anyways!
It's been more than a week and we still didn't get any answer on that topic. Is there anyone in charge of anything and able to make decisions at cryptic?
It's been more than a week and we still didn't get any answer on that topic. Is there anyone in charge of anything and able to make decisions at cryptic?
There will be no honest to god reply on the issues raised in this topic and yes there are people in charge and responsible for decisions, they are just hella bad, not considering the effect on customers and just not giving a HAMSTER'S ear about all the bad mojo they are gonna raise.
God I hope when their contract ends someone else picks up this game and breathes some new life back into it. Preferably a company that shows that they care what their customers think about their product, just a little...
silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
The couldve avoided all of this, by allowing a free chest chance in FBI and new Raid.. then a bought one.. so those who want to double thier chance can buy keys.
That is acceptable as long as ALL new content is allowed a free chance .
In addition, this angst isnt just about the keys, its about the pent up anger and frustation of ignored feedback since mod 10 release. The HAMSTER gating, grinding , shouldve been tinkered with already.. they couldve made a ton of poeple happier, by simply putting a lot more vblood in daily quests .. upped drop rate of lanolin and gotten rid of the chest in the chest on FBI.
Thats all they really had to do.. again, people still wouldve bought thier zen HAMSTER.. because it wouldve offered a faster way to do things.. but it wouldnt be so lousy for the rest of us.
In addition, if they you know made Master Trowel a account wide purchase.. BAM.. double your sales.
I usually don't participate in threads of epic QQ,but for this thread I will make an exception.
Maybe one of the 100+ persons here will listen to me and reevaluate some facts.
First of all,as concerning key changes themselves.Ok it was a feature and not a bug,or at least it was a bug in the begining,but after 2+ years of not responding to it,company made it a feature de facto. So why the change?Cause company,as all companies do,needs money and wants to assure,that its new content-Svardborg-will be run by a great percentage of its veteran players and geared players ,and not skipped like FBI.
Describe the above behaviour as what you want,but in essense ,in a grand scheme,this is not a behaviour totally unexpected ,in a world we live in. If just the company was honest would have 100% of my support(and i will expose the reasons of my support below),just now cause it was not completely honest ,ok i can live with that.
And i think again "if they were honest anyway,this would not stop the epic QQ threads cause NW community is a toxic one,pretty clueless in many things and would go into a nerd mode anyway).
So bottom point:NW COMMUNITY IS OVEREACTING.
KEY CHANGES FOR THE GREAT PERCENT THAT WROTE IN THESE FORUMS,THEY WILL CHANGE NOTHING.
Why?Why dear players you are overacting ,create a negative aura about the game and harming it?At least for all us the rest ,who don't agree?
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1.The second chest was giving HAMSTER rewards 95% of the time.I had run dozens of edemo and dozens of CN.The best i got from key chest was some Radiant/dark/azure R8s.(5-6 total) So,for most of us,you will lose absolutely nothing.there was nothing there to lose.
2.For 99% of wanted items,they also drop from defeated bosses or from normal chest.So ,you are not gated behind a pay wall as you describe.Still you can win these items.
3.The drop rate of legendary items is near 0,03 % .if you think that peeking into the second chest widens your spectrum of possibilities then ok,you are now at 0,04 %.Biggg diference.
4.For the BiS gear -armor in the game,Relic,you had to open a chest within a chest anyway,so you had to spend the key anyway.no change there.
5.For farming parties running CN:as said in point 2,if you have the luck this day,a legendary item will drop anyway.
6.for farming parties running CN:If you are able to run CN at max 10-12 mins as most, x 8-10 times per day, and bear it doing it 8-10 times in a row,obviously the sense of time has no meaning to you:dedicating all this time to run with out enjoying it ,a content in order to sell items and grief the younger playerbase. I would say-no trolling there- I meant it guys and i believe it:Ok run it some more,no harm given.For reasons above ^^^^
7.A legendary item should honor its name:A legendary item ,having the drop rates some off you want ,would not be a legendary item any more,since 90% of community would have it.
8.Some raise concern about these items and how valuable they are ,and how they would benefit their char:BS. You can do any good char at any class with out any legendary item (Horn,set,orange rings). In this MMO,and in any MMO,by definition,any loot difference compared it to the previous best choise;is minimal. there are other ways to improve your char,a legendary drop will be the cherry in the cake ,but not the defining factor.
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I would write more:
For example,if you love and like this game so much,then by havens,from time to time,buy some ZEn.You know../?? To support the company that gives you a game totally free,enhanced with new content every 4 freakin' months.
I saw so many miscalculated thoughts here:
- "Neverwinter is Alt unfriendly".it is not.it is one of the most alt friendly games.most gear is BoA.What else do you want?i don;t get it.
- "Grind in mod10 is too much:i play a DC ,but i don;t have time to make BiS my GWf/Cw aswell.Not fair.Takes too much time. Ok Mr obvious for you , will make the game ,able to do BiS toons by playing 2 hours per day.Why not?You asked it.
- "Neverwinter does not add new content" ROLFMAO.Mod 10,FBI dungeon,a marvellous dungeon and fun to play ,with all its shortcomings,yet 90% of you don't play it ..cause "it has crappy rewards"
YOU KNOW SOMETIMES IF YOU PLAY A GAME YOU DO IT FOR FUN AND CHALLENGE YOU KNOW?
IF YOU ARE SO OBSESSED ABOUT REWARDS THEN YOU HAVE TO RECONSIDER YOUR GAMING BEHAVIOUR.
-"we support the company ,why this behaviour?" Bullshiit.What a pile of crappp.You support nothing.90% of you did not ever bought some ZEN,you are QQing all the time,you skip content,and you want things for free.(no time,no money,no grind)
Mod10 is a great work.new UI,new starting screen,new music,new gear,new 3 (three!!) zones,two of them are marvelous.lonelywood and cold run!!
Cold run has a secret easter agg-location with an NPC that teleports tyou randomly ,even atop of giants's ship sails!Do you know that??Of course not since you never explored the content that the company gave you for free. (thanks Behemoth that you pointed me to that direction,i have seen that anomaly in the map,but i would never found that so fast myself )
mod10 added one playable animation-chopping trees.everything counts.especially in that midst of nihilistic community response.
FBI: a wonderfull new dungeon ,hell of fun to play,still 90% of community does not play it.5% of the community cheese its way through it (ambush rings,hadar arms,etc...) or taking two tanks classes .take one if you want a challenge.But yeah bold words pre release are always that:Bold words and hypocricy.
These from me:I know for what written above,I will be accused but I swear I mean all of the things I wrote ,I believe all of them.i don't want to flame or to troll.I just believe what I wrote.
Sorry for the long post in advance.For anything offended:nothing personal. For young players that read these:No problem with you guys,the veterans HAMSTER me off,not you.
and about 40% of the time that stupid Haarles Treatsy on Dragonkind that you can't ever get out of your inventory.,
Holy hamster, HAARL'S IS THE JACKPOT, it's the only book worth more than 1 AD and it was down to a very sad 80K last I looked but 80K is still MAD PROFIT FOR YOUR KEY. And if you're getting Haarl's Treatise on 40% of your ESoT runs then I hate you and I want to kill you and wear your skin, because 40% Haarls would be AMAZING. And clearly not everyone is getting it at 40% because it sold for 80K (last I checked).
Let me guess, you're a PS4 player?
Haarls is less than 40k on Xbox, and probably less on PC...
Wow, just wow. I applaud your enlightened perspective buddy. By all means keep spending your money so you can lose money. It's your loss
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how bad this change - and MANY OTHER recent changes - is completely destructive to the game, but be your own person. *Salute*
Some of you would make awesome NW devs and managers! You should apply. I'm sure there'll be some openings in the coming months
and about 40% of the time that stupid Haarles Treatsy on Dragonkind that you can't ever get out of your inventory.,
Holy hamster, HAARL'S IS THE JACKPOT, it's the only book worth more than 1 AD and it was down to a very sad 80K last I looked but 80K is still MAD PROFIT FOR YOUR KEY. And if you're getting Haarl's Treatise on 40% of your ESoT runs then I hate you and I want to kill you and wear your skin, because 40% Haarls would be AMAZING. And clearly not everyone is getting it at 40% because it sold for 80K (last I checked).
Let me guess, you're a PS4 player?
Haarls is less than 40k on Xbox, and probably less on PC...
Nope and the first person who brought this up confused it with Breyer's because Haarl's ONLY DROPS in Shores of Tuern and is the only tome worth anything. FYI it costs around 80k AD on AH.
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I've played this game for less than 4 hours since this announcement on PS4. Most people on my friends list are the same. Go watch a movie, hang out with friends or play something else. The devs are responsible for this mess too, it's not just the terrible loot and rng they have contributed to the mindless grind in everything and more in MOD 10 being such a boring expansion.
But i tell you something...
Dont forget your customers we re always there...but...we' ll forget to push you with money like you will forget to push the hamster rng and it s rewards....in that Case -->> Riot!
Debuffma
I guess maybe he only browses the forum when on a secret alt account...or not logged in...right...? I guess I just find it all hard to believe.
As someone posted earlier, this change probably is mostly about key usage in FBI and the new 10.5 instances. Basically they want to push up our key consumption to generate income. We saw the first case of this with the Stronghold dragon fang lockboxes, but at least there they provided a way to get fangs without paying, and the content of those were known in advance.
Is there a chest in FBI that only can be opened with a paid key? And with no f2p way around it?
And a similar solution in 10.5 instances?
If that is the case this game has definitely left the f2p model and gone p2p. That will make it a LOT less attractive to many.
THERE AIN'T NO WAY WE'LL LOSE IT
THIS IS OUR LIFE, THIS IS OUR SONG
WE'LL FIGHT THE POWERS THAT BE JUST
DON'T PICK OUR DESTINY 'CAUSE
YOU DON'T KNOW US, YOU DON'T BELONG
OH WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
NO, WE AIN'T GONNA TAKE IT
OH WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
They keep doing what they're doing, alienating / flushing out the old player base expecting to grab some quick cash from new blood hitting the servers, by means of changes like this, paywalls etc etc, forgetting something really important.
The game is building a really bad reputation because of changes like this (not to mention coal/trade bar store changes, etc etc) in terms of reliability, customer care (player base, feedback, suggested changes), if this keeps on going like this, soon enough, there won't be any new players to squeeze cash out from or their influx will be cut so thin, there won't be enough to support paychecks that keep the game alive.
We ran ESOT and Losty like madmen and made some nice buck out of the these runs. (you see why these things chaged ?)
But it was a time when you had to time your dodges to avoid Garakas' hand blast in order to stay alive, or have a tank smart enough to keep him facing the wall and a cleric good enough to keep the tank alive while taking a beating.
Oh those where the days, we used to have fun running dungeons and skirmishes
Now you just walk through....
Sigh...
Maybe he reads the posts, but he dont answers questiosn about the key "fix".
Here: http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1203585/astral-diamond-changes/p1. This is the link to the Astral diamond change that happened in September of last year.
Here: http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1223956/dungeon-key-changes/p1. This is the front page of this announcement.
1. One of things I noticed right away was who was giving us the not so good news. With the astral diamond change Cryptic new it was going to cause a big ruckus and used the right person (IMHO) to give us this not so good news.
2. The other difference is when the astral diamond change was being announced (we kinda of new it was coming) is was spelled out in the first post why it was going to change, what was going to change, and that there was possible future adjustments on the change itself based on how the new change was going to affect how the game was played. Looking at the key announcement we are not given the why and what of the change and are only given the vague future adjustment response of
"... because the Neverwinter design team will be better able to design rewards for chests going forward now that the bug has been fixed"
What does that really mean "design rewards for chests going forward"? This announcement was very different from the astral diamond announcement.
3. Looking at the CM response to the changes differ very drastically. With the astral diamond change almost all CM's saw the change as being positive (even though a majority of them ran some form of a leadership army). Because, of the support they provided I think it helped us focus on providing good feedback to the developers on some of the area's that were not considered when this change went into effect. In fact I believe it was because of our feedback that most ad sinks were removed, the wondrous bazaar price were reduced, and we got ad added to weekly tasks.
I think for the most part the key change announcement not only blind sided players but even the CM's seemed a little blind sided.
As the game moves forward with this change it is my understanding (based on forums responses to this change) that lots of people will be taking a break from neverwinter or plain just moving on to something else.
Will the departure be as big as Mod 6? I don't think so, but at this point there are a lot of unhappy players because this key change is bringing to light a lot of things that have frustrated the player base since Mod 6 went live.
Adjustments to the game have been made to help bring into balance all the things that made Mod 6 a complete disaster. A lot of those changes have been well thought out and executed smartly.
The new content is beautiful and I for one applaud the Devs for that effort!
However beautiful the content is, it is not as enjoyable as it could be. Contained with in the post is the many reasons why we are not currently having FUN playing the game.
Contrary to to this: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/9811113,
1. "We stumbled with our vision and lost some of the fun. We reacted more than planned. Our Elemental Evil update didn’t deliver what we set out to build. There is a great story there and fantastic new adventures and encounters, but they were hidden behind systems designed smooth out some power curves, progression and allow for more growth in the future. The level cap increase was cumbersome and didn’t feel quite right. We were working to our goals and we hit them functionally, but we lost the spirit just enough to make it not fun to play the content. We were able to rally the team and community to find what we misplaced and get back the Neverwinter we all love." (this can be found in the middle of the paragraph)
We the players are finding the game close to being as much fun as when Element Evil (Mod 6) was first released.
and,
2. "Another key area for us is communication with our community. We are looking at additional ways to show our progress or create direct lines of communication back to our players whether it be through additional dev blogs or in-game activities. We will be working on a way to give the community a clearer picture of what we are working on and what we understand the top issues to be." (this can be found near the bottom)
There appears to be very little communication with the player base about the concerns that this announcement has brought to light.
and last,
3."That said, we are committed to making real progress this year and ensure Neverwinter remains the best D&D experience you can have on PC and console."
Unless I"m missing something it almost feels like this is actually a step backwards because we don't honestly see this key change helping make the game that much more fun to play.
God I hope when their contract ends someone else picks up this game and breathes some new life back into it.
Preferably a company that shows that they care what their customers think about their product, just a little...
The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.
to be continue....
That's getting worse by the day
That is acceptable as long as ALL new content is allowed a free chance .
In addition, this angst isnt just about the keys, its about the pent up anger and frustation of ignored feedback since mod 10 release. The HAMSTER gating, grinding , shouldve been tinkered with already.. they couldve made a ton of poeple happier, by simply putting a lot more vblood in daily quests .. upped drop rate of lanolin and gotten rid of the chest in the chest on FBI.
Thats all they really had to do.. again, people still wouldve bought thier zen HAMSTER.. because it wouldve offered a faster way to do things.. but it wouldnt be so lousy for the rest of us.
In addition, if they you know made Master Trowel a account wide purchase.. BAM.. double your sales.
Jeebus.
Maybe one of the 100+ persons here will listen to me and reevaluate some facts.
First of all,as concerning key changes themselves.Ok it was a feature and not a bug,or at least it was a bug in the begining,but after 2+ years of not responding to it,company made it a feature de facto.
So why the change?Cause company,as all companies do,needs money and wants to assure,that its new content-Svardborg-will be run by a great percentage of its veteran players and geared players ,and not skipped like FBI.
Describe the above behaviour as what you want,but in essense ,in a grand scheme,this is not a behaviour totally unexpected ,in a world we live in.
If just the company was honest would have 100% of my support(and i will expose the reasons of my support below),just now cause it was not completely honest ,ok i can live with that.
And i think again "if they were honest anyway,this would not stop the epic QQ threads cause NW community is a toxic one,pretty clueless in many things and would go into a nerd mode anyway).
So bottom point:NW COMMUNITY IS OVEREACTING.
KEY CHANGES FOR THE GREAT PERCENT THAT WROTE IN THESE FORUMS,THEY WILL CHANGE NOTHING.
Why?Why dear players you are overacting ,create a negative aura about the game and harming it?At least for all us the rest ,who don't agree?
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1.The second chest was giving HAMSTER rewards 95% of the time.I had run dozens of edemo and dozens of CN.The best i got from key chest was some Radiant/dark/azure R8s.(5-6 total)
So,for most of us,you will lose absolutely nothing.there was nothing there to lose.
2.For 99% of wanted items,they also drop from defeated bosses or from normal chest.So ,you are not gated behind a pay wall as you describe.Still you can win these items.
3.The drop rate of legendary items is near 0,03 % .if you think that peeking into the second chest widens your spectrum of possibilities then ok,you are now at 0,04 %.Biggg diference.
4.For the BiS gear -armor in the game,Relic,you had to open a chest within a chest anyway,so you had to spend the key anyway.no change there.
5.For farming parties running CN:as said in point 2,if you have the luck this day,a legendary item will drop anyway.
6.for farming parties running CN:If you are able to run CN at max 10-12 mins as most, x 8-10 times per day, and bear it doing it 8-10 times in a row,obviously the sense of time has no meaning to you:dedicating all this time to run with out enjoying it ,a content in order to sell items and grief the younger playerbase.
I would say-no trolling there- I meant it guys and i believe it:Ok run it some more,no harm given.For reasons above ^^^^
7.A legendary item should honor its name:A legendary item ,having the drop rates some off you want ,would not be a legendary item any more,since 90% of community would have it.
8.Some raise concern about these items and how valuable they are ,and how they would benefit their char:BS.
You can do any good char at any class with out any legendary item (Horn,set,orange rings).
In this MMO,and in any MMO,by definition,any loot difference compared it to the previous best choise;is minimal.
there are other ways to improve your char,a legendary drop will be the cherry in the cake ,but not the defining factor.
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I would write more:
For example,if you love and like this game so much,then by havens,from time to time,buy some ZEn.You know../??
To support the company that gives you a game totally free,enhanced with new content every 4 freakin' months.
I saw so many miscalculated thoughts here:
- "Neverwinter is Alt unfriendly".it is not.it is one of the most alt friendly games.most gear is BoA.What else do you want?i don;t get it.
- "Grind in mod10 is too much:i play a DC ,but i don;t have time to make BiS my GWf/Cw aswell.Not fair.Takes too much time.
Ok Mr obvious for you , will make the game ,able to do BiS toons by playing 2 hours per day.Why not?You asked it.
- "Neverwinter does not add new content" ROLFMAO.Mod 10,FBI dungeon,a marvellous dungeon and fun to play ,with all its shortcomings,yet 90% of you don't play it ..cause "it has crappy rewards"
YOU KNOW SOMETIMES IF YOU PLAY A GAME YOU DO IT FOR FUN AND CHALLENGE YOU KNOW?
IF YOU ARE SO OBSESSED ABOUT REWARDS THEN YOU HAVE TO RECONSIDER YOUR GAMING BEHAVIOUR.
-"we support the company ,why this behaviour?" Bullshiit.What a pile of crappp.You support nothing.90% of you did not ever bought some ZEN,you are QQing all the time,you skip content,and you want things for free.(no time,no money,no grind)
Mod10 is a great work.new UI,new starting screen,new music,new gear,new 3 (three!!) zones,two of them are marvelous.lonelywood and cold run!!
Cold run has a secret easter agg-location with an NPC that teleports tyou randomly ,even atop of giants's ship sails!Do you know that??Of course not since you never explored the content that the company gave you for free. (thanks Behemoth that you pointed me to that direction,i have seen that anomaly in the map,but i would never found that so fast myself
mod10 added one playable animation-chopping trees.everything counts.especially in that midst of nihilistic community response.
FBI:
a wonderfull new dungeon ,hell of fun to play,still 90% of community does not play it.5% of the community cheese its way through it (ambush rings,hadar arms,etc...)
or taking two tanks classes .take one if you want a challenge.But yeah bold words pre release are always that:Bold words and hypocricy.
These from me:I know for what written above,I will be accused but I swear I mean all of the things I wrote ,I believe all of them.i don't want to flame or to troll.I just believe what I wrote.
Sorry for the long post in advance.For anything offended:nothing personal.
For young players that read these:No problem with you guys,the veterans HAMSTER me off,not you.
Good game and loot to all!!!
Haarls is less than 40k on Xbox, and probably less on PC...
Alrighty.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how bad this change - and MANY OTHER recent changes - is completely destructive to the game, but be your own person. *Salute*
Some of you would make awesome NW devs and managers! You should apply. I'm sure there'll be some openings in the coming months
We understand most of you are unhappy with the change but we don't care. It's going live anyway.
There you have it.
The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.