2x Tyranny of Dragons currency event and Linu's

lirithiel

@asterdahl, @terramak

With the event just around the corner, could we please get some confirmation on whether Linu's Favors will count towards this or not? Everyone (the players that is) will agree that the last two boons in the ToD campaign is a schlep with the amount of Linu's still required even though we are 5 Mods past its introduction. I have only obtained the final boon on 1 of the my toons as a result of the cruel grind involved and it would be greatly appreciated by us players if Linu's also doubled up during the upcoming event.

Now I have been told by other players that Linu's isn't actually a currency (poppycock!) but a reward and I couldn't disagree more. Linu's are in fact listed under the currency tab along with the rest of the ToD ones and is required, as currency, to unlock the final 2 boons. Rewards, however, are not required to unlock boons of any kind. Could we please get some clarification on this? Thanks in advance.

reg1981

Strum is on vacation. Any devs care to chime in?

kvet

I managed to get the 6th boon finally on my main just a few weeks ago. It only took me what, 2 years? Given I'll need even more linus for the 7th one, I don't imagine I'll be getting it any time soon. Good thing those last two boons are effectively worthless, especially given the insane level of effort required to earn them.

wylonus

they need to redo Linu's Favor, big time, otherwise it is "abandoned contents".
everyone hated this grind, and they nerfed dragon hoard coin drops that doesnt make sense. it is devs's fault making those as tradeable instead of "BiC".

last 2 boons are almost forever out of reaches of many players, only few had it done and got away with it before nerfages. it made some players claiming the devs are doing favors to specific "fav" players to create big gaps between haves and havenots.
getting those last boons are like playing Kneival's jump stunt to get over the grand canyon to get it.

lirithiel

What was nerfed to slow down the process in acquiring the last 2 boons in ToD? I got it by running Tiamat until my eyes bled - and there were many failures in between.

wylonus

it was local mob drops, you now get them from HHE (herald) runs and tiamat, i went there and had too many fails, it is very bitter and will not go back to taimat ever, it is dev's fault and too many afkers at the revive camp.

devs really need to rethink and overhaul WoD, some quests are okay and they need a new once a week task added for ADs, Hoard Coins and Linu's.
getting 1,500 hoard coins isnt easy for 1 week, sometimes it get overlap with following weeks, and you lose to get next weekly task on time since those dont drop often, and it isnt funny when you have 5 alts trying in same week.

gildriador

You can exchange 100 hoard coffer or 1500 Dragon Hoard coins for 1 linu's Favor. I think at the start of Mod 5, Hoard coffer drop was not limited.

gildriador

It's not exactly an exchange but it's the quest that give you 1 linu if you give hoard coffer or dragon hoard coins to improve the tiamat loot

wylonus

deleted post, sorry

yeah, that is once a week quest.

beckylunatic

The quest to get a Linu's Favor from the hoard is only limited by your resources.

Elminster's weekly includes turning in 15 coffers (which is basically 1 Heralds run). Doing it gets you a bit of progress towards earning a Linu.

At this stage, I'd love to see a Linu's Favour added to a weekly WoD quest. It's high time, the boons are ridiculously grindy for what you actually get in return, and basically written off as unattainable outside of anyone who chain-ran Tiamat when it was new. That's still over a year and a half of weekly questing to get these boons if that's the only thing you do towards them, but at least it would provide meaningful progress in a more interesting way than endlessly dumping resources into the hoard.

80 Linu's Favors for boons was one of the earliest examples of how Cryptic effectively killed off alt play, even for people who had stubbornly stuck it out through the Tyranny of Dailies/Timers on Dragons months. Cryptic has the power to lessen that burden, if they choose to wield it. It would be the right thing to do (after the initial wrong).

And you can say that selling ToD campaign completions is already their answer, but... it's not actually possible to buy one if all you're missing is boon 6&7. Greyed out in the store, even if you think the 40 bucks would be worth it.

Sorry about the further hijack, but I think we can all agree that Linu's Favors are contentious at best.

And yes, double Linu in 2xTyrannyCurrency would help a teeny-tiny, eeny-weeny bit. But there's only so much gameplay you can make up in a weekend.

thegreatmikey

Double Linu's Favour would be a nice thing, so I am guessing t will not happen.

plasticbat

The Linu quest has nothing to do with the weekly quest. They are 2 different quests. Linu quest needs 1500 units. The weekly quest needs 15 coffers. The 15 coffers donation just happens to help the Linu quest.

For me, it took me 2 years to get all the WoD boons. I finally got them all for my main toon about 2 weeks ago.
I did not do Tiamat. I made Dragon Empire Treasure.
Each one worth 200. If you make one daily, you have ~one Linu per week (with the contribution of the weekly quest + changes). Yes, it took at least 80 weeks if you do my "slow" way.

iandarksword

Including Linu's Favor in the 2x pool would help. The Hoard should be full before Thursday with the added coffer drops from the Siege event. Although, someone might want to post the old Tiamat strategy, in several runs this weekend there were still aloof players killing one head per round. Purchasing the leftover coffer drops from the Siege might prove a useful AD sink too. If they want more players to experience FBI, it would be helpful in the long run for players to have all the preceding boons.

pterias

Even with the 2x event, the Linus are out of control. I got them all on my main a few months ago, but forget the alts, I'm done. Until they reduce the requirements by half or add another way to get them that doesn't require spending money or running Tiamat 8,736 times, I'm out. I don't think I'll even bother farming Linus with this event on. I already have the 5th boon on all my primary alts, that's enough.

When they introduced the demonic HEs, they virtually doubled the daily progress speed for Dread Ring and Icewind Dale, but WoD got the scraps with Fangs. The WoD "3 HE" daily should give out a Linu as well. If a person did that exclusively, it would still take the better part of 3 months to get both boons. Seems fair.

lirithiel

I guess pugging Tia is still out of the question, but I cannot remember the last time I failed doing runs with legit. I see runs being organised daily, although I haven't been joining them of late in the hope that the event rewarded double Linu's, which would mean I only need to do Tia 15 more times. However, I won't get my hopes up as the silence from the devs could only mean one thing.

kvet

Normally, we can fill a tia run with alliance, topping off with a few folks from legit. I can't recall the last time I failed a run. I just wish I ENJOYED running Tiamat. If I did, I'd certainly run it more often.

lirithiel

@kvet: what about setting up a run and doing it the way Tiamat was meant to be played - 5 parties of 5. I only did it once at the start and it was a success as well, before the zerg tactic was founded. I'm not a fan of any kind of zerging, maybe coz I hated playing Zerg in Starcraft.

rafaelda

beckylunatic said:

The quest to get a Linu's Favor from the hoard is only limited by your resources.

Elminster's weekly includes turning in 15 coffers (which is basically 1 Heralds run). Doing it gets you a bit of progress towards earning a Linu.

At this stage, I'd love to see a Linu's Favour added to a weekly WoD quest. It's high time, the boons are ridiculously grindy for what you actually get in return, and basically written off as unattainable outside of anyone who chain-ran Tiamat when it was new. That's still over a year and a half of weekly questing to get these boons if that's the only thing you do towards them, but at least it would provide meaningful progress in a more interesting way than endlessly dumping resources into the hoard.

80 Linu's Favors for boons was one of the earliest examples of how Cryptic effectively killed off alt play, even for people who had stubbornly stuck it out through the Tyranny of Dailies/Timers on Dragons months. Cryptic has the power to lessen that burden, if they choose to wield it. It would be the right thing to do (after the initial wrong).

And you can say that selling ToD campaign completions is already their answer, but... it's not actually possible to buy one if all you're missing is boon 6&7. Greyed out in the store, even if you think the 40 bucks would be worth it.

Sorry about the further hijack, but I think we can all agree that Linu's Favors are contentious at best.

And yes, double Linu in 2xTyrannyCurrency would help a teeny-tiny, eeny-weeny bit. But there's only so much gameplay you can make up in a weekend.

Thats the the same feeling i have !!

IF we get 2xLinus it weill be a really small help, if not you still can fill the 1500 Hoard quest to get one from chart in half time with the 2X time...

Anyway even with 2x Tyranny i'm not planning to play a full weekend only doing tTiamat and Tyranny stuff (years old contatent) to maybe be able to finish it in one more toon...

Good Luck to all will do it but i'm out...

aslan3775

I would really like to see an answer to this question as well.

I apologize to Lirithiel for Hijacking.

I have to admit, one of the few grinds that I do is the Tiamat section. Dragon Herald runs are a good source of green, blue, and purple resonance stones, and if you get in with 30 or 40 higher level people, you can average 10 dragons per run. You have to have someone willing to watch the zones for a fresh zone after the third or fourth Herald kill, and try to get everyone to switch at the right time. If you kill 10 dragon heralds, you should average 20-25 dragon hoard coffers. With that type of success, you get a linu after 5 or so dragon herald runs.

Tiamat has also improved dramatically since they fixed the queue system. If you queue up early enough, you can arrange your groups into real parties. It takes a bit of work because the leader can't just arrange them, he has to drop them and reassign them into a party. So the queue system could use a tweak, but once you have real parties, you don't need to zerg. Most of the successful Tiamat runs I have been in have gone with the zerg route. And they tend to finish in one or at the most two rounds.

Using the Dragon Heralds and Tiamat runs, my main got all his boons in three months. Not great, but I kinda play casual (my family doesn't think so, but. . . that's my description. ) I am more than halfway to getting all the boons on three alts. I just can't give up the lifesteal and crit severity opportunities.

Besides--the chance to drop either one or two purple armor pieces for a 10 minute Tiamat skirmish is too good to pass up.

I still wouldn't do just a weekend of Tiamat--that would be too boring. But doing one or two on a main and a few alts--not too bad. Since you get a purple resonance stone and purple level AD box for stronghold on the first run of the week--why not?

lirithiel

Now the silence from the devs is completely understandable. They didn't want to release two HAMSTER storms in one day. Strum, you timed your vacation perfectly... Coincidink?

beckylunatic

It's just not the type of thing the devs usually respond to, and I expect they're really busy. No point bashing them for things they're not guilty of in addition to the things they *are* guilty of.

I'm going to flag my own post to ask the mods to ask someone. More likely to get an answer that way.

kreatyve

beckylunatic said:

It's just not the type of thing the devs usually respond to, and I expect they're really busy. No point bashing them for things they're not guilty of in addition to the things they *are* guilty of.

I'm going to flag my own post to ask the mods to ask someone. More likely to get an answer that way.

I just double checked with Andy before he gets on his plane, according to him - yes, the Linu's favors will be doubled during the event.

lirithiel

kreatyve said:

beckylunatic said:

It's just not the type of thing the devs usually respond to, and I expect they're really busy. No point bashing them for things they're not guilty of in addition to the things they *are* guilty of.

I'm going to flag my own post to ask the mods to ask someone. More likely to get an answer that way.

I just double checked with Andy before he gets on his plane, according to him - yes, the Linu's favors will be doubled during the event.

Thank you so much @kreatyve More than I would have expected.

kreatyve

lirithiel said:

kreatyve said:

beckylunatic said:

It's just not the type of thing the devs usually respond to, and I expect they're really busy. No point bashing them for things they're not guilty of in addition to the things they *are* guilty of.

I'm going to flag my own post to ask the mods to ask someone. More likely to get an answer that way.

I just double checked with Andy before he gets on his plane, according to him - yes, the Linu's favors will be doubled during the event.

Thank you so much @kreatyve More than I would have expected.

You're welcome.

arcanjo86

linus always was tod currencies, no reason to think otherwise, from what im seeing new 2xcampaing currencies events seem to help players finish (tod, sharandar and dread ring campaign) faster, im sad because its not showing any 2xicewindale currencie, (or did i missed anything on the calendar )

kreatyve

arcanjo86 said:

linus always was tod currencies, no reason to think otherwise, from what im seeing new 2xcampaing currencies events seem to help players finish (tod, sharandar and dread ring campaign) faster, im sad because its not showing any 2xicewindale currencie, (or did i missed anything on the calendar )

Actually - Linu's were Rise of Tiamat currency - not totally Tyranny of Dragons, if you want to be technical about it.

beckylunatic

arcanjo86 said:

im sad because its not showing any 2xicewindale currencie, (or did i missed anything on the calendar )

Look again. IWD is coming up in a few weeks.