What's the deal with the mail limit on unclaimed items?

ph33rm3

terramak said:

User Interface
Auction House

• There is now a limit to the number of unclaimed items a player may have in their mail. Once this limit is reached, the player may no longer post items up for auction until they claim items from their mail.

I don't have enough room to remove enough items from my mail to enable the auction house to sell those items? So. What? No more auction house for me unless I delete the stuff in my mail?

There has to be a better way.

loboguild

The limit is 200. I guess if you surpass that they say you are using the mailbox as a storage space, which is unintended, cause storage space costs ZEN.

What I don't get is why they do not supply characters with sufficient space for all items and then fix workarounds.

ph33rm3

I can't remove enough from the mail in order to enable the auction house... the only way for me to do this is to start deleting the things I purchased. There has to be something I can do. Are they really going to force me to delete my stuff?

cdnbison

Or you could buy some bags / bank space to store them in, assuming you aren't at max...

beckylunatic

I suspect Cryptic doesn't really give two hamsters about how this affects players who do high-volume flipping, as they care not for your pocketbook, and discouraging flipping is even likely a desired outcome of the change. But there are 2-4 major categories of items I buy and leave in the mail largely because of QoL considerations.

I am holding a lot of items I like for transmutes, particularly ones that can no longer be obtained. If I pull all of these out of the mail, that's a very large amount of inventory occupied by items that I only need when upgrading armor. Since an item used as a transmute is destroyed and not saved in some kind of library, the lifespan of a character requires a stockpile of anything that you can't reliably re-buy or re-farm on an as-needed basis. Cryptic's transmuting mechanics, and their cavalier removal of most of the equipment skins that I like best, means that I have a pretty big stash. My personal bank spaces are occupied by things like BtC fashion/gear, event doodads, and artifacts I'm not currently using. My bag space is occupied by a slew of refinement dross, quest items, consumables, permanent tools, and I need to keep some inventory open for picking up items. Many NW events are Codeword: Operation Fill-Your-Bag-With-Hamsters, so participating in these requires keeping sufficient space for the duration of the event. In short, I don't have anywhere to put my irreplaceable future transmutes.

I also have a shockingly large quantity of overload enchants socked away in the mail from getting deals on them. Since they are a consumable but won't stack (because Cryptic won't fix the glyphs and BI enchants to work like other overloads; promised EE QoL improvements that never actually happened), they'd again take up a ton of space for no good reason if I pulled them out except as-needed. I'd *love* to be able to put stacks of a few different kinds of overload enchants in my shared bank, but it's not at all feasible to keep them universally accessible because they don't stack.

There are also companions and mounts that I intend to use on a future alt because I have a vision for a class that doesn't exist yet but I can get a deal on their perfect accessories *now*, but I can probably find somewhere to stash these. It's not a lot of stuff.

I do still have bought RP stacks here and there, mostly due to not having needed them recently, or running out of steam after cleaning up everything that was already in my bags during every 2xRP event since purchasing. These items can be consumed and not replaced.

As for the solution being to buy more and bigger bags... hamster you and the hamster you rode in on (generically speaking, not aimed at any individuals). Nobody signed up for this degree of inventory Tetris. It's unmanageable even for people who actually have maxed out their storage space, and buying storage should be paying for convenience, not paying for the ability to play the game at all.

oldbaldyone

They will say this is because the database can't handle all the items in the Mailbox, or because it puts the items at risk if the mail is lost, or that customer service is spending to much time restoring items lost in the mail (they never do thta so no time lost there), or its impacting the server loads....etc etc

In the end, it's money. Same reason bags are now BoE. Same reason they refuse to address the amount of RP items in the game, and keep adding more in different flavors. Same reason why we MUST have fishing poles and mining picks in our bags. Same reason keys are in our bags. Same reason fashion items are in our bags.......

Sorry, a lot of these issues could be easily resolved in a day and make the game better. They don't want to. Why give players a benefit for free when you can charge them for it? For every 10 players that get mad about this, there will be 1 that spends money to buy more storage. Money. It makes the world go round and the servers worth running.

Mark my words - within a year, there will be a new bag that is larger than runic bags on the Zen market and none of the inventory management problems will have been addressed at all.

btairborne

It's a data issue common to MMOs. I think every one I have ever played made some limit on mailboxes. From the patch message we can see it's probably because of high volume flippers.

darthpotater

Decissions like this should come with a QoL improvement like transmute library, and a infinite refinement space

ironzerg79

oldbaldyone said:

For every 10 players that get mad about this, there will be 1 that spends money to buy more storage. Money. It makes the world go round and the servers worth running.

Maybe, to an extend. But if this is the case, why am I limited to how many bags, extra bank and shared bank space I can buy.

Seems like if they were all about the money grab, you'd be able to buy way more that what's allowed. As soon as they raised the cap, I eagerly purchased all I could....now I'm capped, and it's filled.

So if this really is a money grab, then they're bad at it...

beckylunatic

It's absolutely ludicrous that the fix for the the store entry saying shared bank slots cap at 96 when purchase disabled at 88 total was to change the tooltip to 88 and not the max to 96.

They try to sell things we don't want and refuse to sell things we do want.

rgladiato

ironzerg79 said:

As soon as they raised the cap, I eagerly purchased all I could....now I'm capped, and it's filled.

Stop being such a pack rat!