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Sudden rings on companions! too powerful..

owlcat#9823 owlcat Member Posts: 25 Arc User
Please make the companions able to only use the companion's gear/rings.

Sudden rings are ridiculous on companions with Bonding Runestones.

Please fix this.
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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Yes they are. 4000*3*2.8 extra power is completely overkill for the kind of easy content we have right now.
  • qexoticqexotic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 841 Arc User

    Please make the companions able to only use the companion's gear/rings.

    Sudden rings are ridiculous on companions with Bonding Runestones.

    Please fix this.

    I can understand your wish to make Sudden rings not work with Bonding Runestones but why extend this to only allowing companions to use companion specific gear and rings ? These items are hard to obtain as they are only obtainable through playing the SCA Epic Dungeons on the Gateway, random drops from SH Heroic Encounters or even more random drops from Lockboxes. While I personally enjoy playing the SCA Dungeons, not everyone does. SH HEs are restricted to players who are members of Guilds, so solo players have no access to them at all. Lockbox drops are simply too rare to be considered by most people. Limiting companions to only using companion specific gear would be a major problem for an awful lot of players, so I can see no good reason for introducing it.

  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    Legendary rings:
    there are also 2 offense slots;

    Ring of Rising Power:
    1350 power
    2 offense slots

    VS

    Ring of Adorable Bites:
    521 Power
    348 Crit
    2 offense slots
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  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    Lillend companion has 3 offensive slots + 3 rings.

    Just calc it!
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  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    Something like this:
    6x Black Ice Enchantment, Rank 12
    Ring of Brutality +5
    Ring of Rising Power +5
    Ring of Rising Precision +5


    Initial:
    460; 230; 230
    4000; 1350; 1350
    Output:
    47.24%; 19.45%; 9.83%
    75.74%
    (Power dmg 400*1%) - Brutality proc.
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  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    edited September 2016


    Initial:
    460; 230; 230 (Power/Crit/Recovery) x6
    4000; 1350; 1350 (Power/Power/Crit)
    Output:
    47.24%; 19.45%; 9.83% (Power/Crit/Recovery)
    75.74% (Power)
    - Brutality proc.

    misunderstood upd


    That way BiS Pet Fire Archon:
    5x Radiants, 12s
    Ring of Brutality +5
    Ring of Rising Power +5
    Avenger or something

    Output:
    4.65% (Crit)
    14.00% (Arm. Pen.)
    57.16% (Power)
    85.66% (Power) - Brutality proc.

    Bondings+Underdark are so ^ cute ^
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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
    edited September 2016

    In the end, they do not matter though. Most players melt things instantly not even using a pet with ring slots. The UD rings have cooldowns anyway. So, this is making a mountain out of a molehill.

    Except that the cooldown doesn't apply to companions. So some players do have a permanent 33600 extra power buff from their pets. That's not counting what they put in their offensive slots.
  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User

    In the end, they do not matter though. Most players melt things instantly not even using a pet with ring slots. The UD rings have cooldowns anyway. So, this is making a mountain out of a molehill.

    they have a 100% uptime

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter#/discussion/1220183/bug-underdark-rings-icd-on-dot-companions
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  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    That's PC discussion, isn't it?

    Well I personally don't like that such a "feature" exists in the game.
    But I use it.
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  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    It may be a time to ask for a "New Life" like lockbox with easiest access to companion gear.
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  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    The main key of the "Underdark Rings" - that's BtA.

    It's quick and easy to swap between accounts.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,400 Arc User

    Something like this:
    6x Black Ice Enchantment, Rank 12
    Ring of Brutality +5
    Ring of Rising Power +5
    Ring of Rising Precision +5


    Initial:
    460; 230; 230
    4000; 1350; 1350
    Output:
    47.24%; 19.45%; 9.83%
    75.74%
    (Power dmg 400*1%) - Brutality proc.

    Can a pet get 1350 from the rising rings?
    To get 1350, it means it proc 10 times in 4 seconds. Can the pet proc that fast?
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  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    @plasticbat
    DoT powers
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  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    @plasticbat
    I do not run that pet but she has DoT:
    i.e.
    image
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  • zibadawazibadawa Member Posts: 1,266 Arc User
    Ring of sudden deflect is also fun on the companion.
  • frozenfirevrfrozenfirevr Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,475 Community Moderator
    Why in 4 secs? O.o
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  • ajlir#7970 ajlir Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    Hmm......I will use this.
  • owlcat#9823 owlcat Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    we need a fast fix please. everyone is running around with 100% crit chance and a !@#$ton of hard obtained stats!

    It's breaking the game and killing all the fun..
  • zibadawazibadawa Member Posts: 1,266 Arc User

    we need a fast fix please. everyone is running around with 100% crit chance and a !@#$ton of hard obtained stats!

    It's breaking the game and killing all the fun..

    If only those dudes who kept making threads about it wouldn't do that and thus spread the word more...

    Kind of a Catch 22, there.
  • owlcat#9823 owlcat Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    zibadawa said:

    we need a fast fix please. everyone is running around with 100% crit chance and a !@#$ton of hard obtained stats!

    It's breaking the game and killing all the fun..

    If only those dudes who kept making threads about it wouldn't do that and thus spread the word more...

    Kind of a Catch 22, there.
    Everyone has been using these rings for a long time, the only companion you'll see people using is the fire archon, it's not a secret, since everyone knew about it and has been using it.

    if nobody says anything about this problem then it won't get fixed..
  • zibadawazibadawa Member Posts: 1,266 Arc User

    zibadawa said:

    we need a fast fix please. everyone is running around with 100% crit chance and a !@#$ton of hard obtained stats!

    It's breaking the game and killing all the fun..

    If only those dudes who kept making threads about it wouldn't do that and thus spread the word more...

    Kind of a Catch 22, there.
    Everyone has been using these rings for a long time, the only companion you'll see people using is the fire archon, it's not a secret, since everyone knew about it and has been using it.

    if nobody says anything about this problem then it won't get fixed..
    Didn't people talk about how much bubbledins ruined the game all the time? It only took them, what...a year to nerf?
  • owlcat#9823 owlcat Member Posts: 25 Arc User
    zibadawa said:

    zibadawa said:

    we need a fast fix please. everyone is running around with 100% crit chance and a !@#$ton of hard obtained stats!

    It's breaking the game and killing all the fun..

    If only those dudes who kept making threads about it wouldn't do that and thus spread the word more...

    Kind of a Catch 22, there.
    Everyone has been using these rings for a long time, the only companion you'll see people using is the fire archon, it's not a secret, since everyone knew about it and has been using it.

    if nobody says anything about this problem then it won't get fixed..
    Didn't people talk about how much bubbledins ruined the game all the time? It only took them, what...a year to nerf?
    Well, better late than never.

    I want them to notice how much of a problem this has became, since everyone is keeping quiet about it here.

    It wasn't this bad until recently, 90% of the people I play with seem to be using them, which is why I created this thread.

    It's getting out of hand..
  • iandarkswordiandarksword Member Posts: 978 Arc User
    There's probably a good chance they will nerf bonding runestones instead of the gear. It'll probably be a similar approach to how they addressed the indomitable runestones, where only the highest rank enchant gives the bonus, thus only making it viable to use one instead of three.
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  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User

    There's probably a good chance they will nerf bonding runestones instead of the gear. It'll probably be a similar approach to how they addressed the indomitable runestones, where only the highest rank enchant gives the bonus, thus only making it viable to use one instead of three.

    Serene Runestone, Indomitable Runestone - oh, I thought they completely forgot about them. They should remove it from the game.

    >making it viable to use one instead of three
    make Empowered viable? +700 power stat.

    (840-700)*2*0,95 = 0,665% power dmg loss...

    They should remove Empowered as well.
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