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[Pc] Mod 12, Hellbringer Temtation Build/guide, (Hades Edition)

hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
edited August 2017 in The Nine Hells
Hello. Everyone..

Note: This is update for my current Temptation HB warlock build and also will try explain some stuffs.


1) This build is ment to fit my gameplay. Which mean be able help groups in epic dungeons, large group fights, but also be able do game content solo. Also my gameplay mostly focused and areal fights. :)
2) I am in guild with guild boons, however in this build, I will provide my stats when guild boons are disabled. With guild boons enabled I have over 12k Def and over 30k power.

3) I am not after being on top by dealt dmg, neither for standing on top by healing, also I am not after mainstream fashions like > HB must use Vorp or fey weapon enchantment over Dread or like claims that SW good just for Single target dps..


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Race: Tiefling

Race Bonus effects: +2 Charisma, +2 Intelligence.
Bloodhunt: You deal an additional 5% damage to targets below half health.
Infernal Wrath: Whenever you are hit, you have a 10% chance to lower the Power of the attacker by 5% for 5 seconds.

Ability Scores:




Power stats: (guild boons disabled)


Gear:

I using greater dread enchantment, which goes well in combo with warlocks NoPity, NoMercy offhand feat. Combined dread and offhand feat you can get 9% dmg increase toward affected enemies. :)

I having boots from mysterious trader(stronghold) - which effect is too boost up def for each enemy I engage in fight, so extra 200 per enemy is a lot.
Gloves = boost up 100 power per each enemy I engage in battle,
So boots and gloves combined boost up my performance, more enemies I engage = stronger I become. :)

Feats:

Note:
I didn't pick Compound soul because it's benefits are good for large fights, but also it's effect is kinda minor and it's only good if u want stay on top in score board as top healer.
I didn't pick soul breaker - because in large fights like tiamat, e/nDemo, any BhE












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Now power sets which I using.


For non epic dungeons content.

Daily powers: gate of hell + accursed souls
At wills Hellish Rebuke + Hand of Blight
Class features: Not Pity no mercy + x
x= optional by situation.
Prince of hell – arp + life steal chance boost.
Flame of empowerment – single target debuff
All consuming curse – over all dps
Dark ones blessing - boost up life steal.


Encounters: x + PoP + x
x= optional, depend of situation.
BoVa - dps, deflect boost(tanking) + life stealing mashine.
Fiery bolt = full AoE burst dmg.
Arm of Hadar = Aoe Cc + dps
Hadar Grasp – single target CC + dps + debuff
Vampiric embrace – life restoration tool
Warlock bargain – single target high dps + life draining

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Single target dmg set,:( Boss/tough monster annihilator)

Daily Powers: Flames of Phlegethos + Accursed souls(panic button)
At wills: Hellish rebuke + Hand of blight.
Encounters: DT + PoP + WB.
Class features: NP,NM + FoE

Combo>Curse: PoP > x3 HR> WB> Flames of Phlegethos >DT

Note/reason why such combo.

Curse:: obvious for 20% dmg ,
PoP for buff dmg, if possible debuff enemy + extra dmg.
Hellish rebuke x3 = to build up Flame of empowerment stacks to boost up dmg, + apply hellish condemnation (temptation feat)
Warlock bargain = for dmg and keep you alive, it's mostly optionally.

Now most crucial part is Flames of Phlegethos + DT,
Once you cast/apply Flames of Phlegethos you must use DT, and DT effect is to increase dealt dmg from all sources, means your FoP daily powers DoT will deal more dmg, and on top, while DT up there is high chance you will trigger Dread enchantments debuff effect and NPNM, offhand feat.
Which mean even extra 9% dmg increase.

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Epic dungeon runs:
Daily powers : Tyrannical curse + accursed souls
Class feature: NPNM + x(optional by situation.)
Price of hell for RI + Life steal boost
FoE for extra dmg
dark ones blessing for extra Life steal + severity.
Encounters: BoVa + pop + x(optional by situation)
Warlock bargains = dmg + life drain(mostly used)
Arm of hadar - if group need extra CC elements.
fiery bolt - aoe dmg (trash clean)

If happens having questions, be free to ask.
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“The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
Gustave Le Bon.

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  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Nice stuff here, temptation SW is really a kind of de/buff now I think.
    Heals, buff, debuff - what can we say more.

    One thing I would add about encounters is Dreadtheft clarification - it's not only 'aoe dps' -> it's also 25% multiplicative debuff
    https://youtube.com/c/FernuStormborn

    Mod 10:
    [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Killing Flames deals 16636893 (1009292) Fire Damage to Ethraniev Marrowslake.

    Mod 9:
    [Combat (Self)] Your Murderous Flames deals 376274433 (18876929) Fire Damage to Red Tiamat Head.
  • hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    fernuu said:

    Nice stuff here, temptation SW is really a kind of de/buff now I think.
    Heals, buff, debuff - what can we say more.

    One thing I would add about encounters is Dreadtheft clarification - it's not only 'aoe dps' -> it's also 25% multiplicative debuff

    Since I respected to Temptation I stopped use DT at all, so I didn't pay attention to this encounter. I will fix it.

    Also I forgot to write line about stats..
    These my current stats are when I use No pity no mercy and All consuming curse class features.. When I use price of hell I have more life steal chance, and when hit enemies I get even more.. In eDungeon runs I notice I have 30% life steal chance.. :) Also Most of time I have enabled Dark Revelry buff, which give Move Speed and Power of nearby allies by 4/8/12/16/20% for 5 seconds.. now also companion gain same buff, and due bonding runestone I get extra boost. :) Not mentioned I get 20% boost from buff only.. :)
    I think high geared player with bonding runestones could boost up own power in extreme level :)
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    “The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
    Gustave Le Bon.

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  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    Yeah, I don't use it most of time, until I'm in group with better damage dealer :)
    https://youtube.com/c/FernuStormborn

    Mod 10:
    [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Killing Flames deals 16636893 (1009292) Fire Damage to Ethraniev Marrowslake.

    Mod 9:
    [Combat (Self)] Your Murderous Flames deals 376274433 (18876929) Fire Damage to Red Tiamat Head.
  • hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    fernuu said:

    Yeah, I don't use it most of time, until I'm in group with better damage dealer :)

    DT best way to exploit is by using kiting tactic. Then u can do most of damage. But sadly, when u try combine Pillar of Power + DT its faill. Enemies surround you, and since DT attack is in line, u will be hitting maybe couple enemies at best. so its not best combo. Better go with BoVa + PoP. Not only u get extra survivability, but also Bova get boost from PoP, the area effect of PoP = BoVa area.
    I think DT is best to Soulbinder path. Because they are more agile.
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    “The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
    Gustave Le Bon.

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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    In mod 9 TT plus HG plus dreadtheft was a big aoe inside dungeons.
    Now TT is changed and you normally lose a lot of damage. I do better using Arms of Hadar plus BoVA inside my plate.
    DT debuff is 8 seconds 0.25 plus damage. But it's unhandy and i think you lose a lot personal damage missing ten HR's plus encouter.
    I think about going HB temptation PVP/PVE build, but will focus on damage con/char, crit is too important imo.
  • hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User

    In mod 9 TT plus HG plus dreadtheft was a big aoe inside dungeons.

    Now TT is changed and you normally lose a lot of damage. I do better using Arms of Hadar plus BoVA inside my plate.

    DT debuff is 8 seconds 0.25 plus damage. But it's unhandy and i think you lose a lot personal damage missing ten HR's plus encouter.

    I think about going HB temptation PVP/PVE build, but will focus on damage con/char, crit is too important imo.

    Before mod 10 release I played with HB fury build. So used cast > TT on 3 targets. then WB + DT + HG and u have dps rain.
    Some others either SB or HB used BoVa + DT + HG and also put high aoe Dps.
    But this is Mod 10, and yet Tyrannical Curse still remain king when come Aoe dps. Hadar grasp DoT + debuff effect. BoVa for multiple hits, + Pillar of power dps + buffing BoVa dmg. So For now I think is one of best combo.
    Arm of Hadar is good to CC and dps. But when I use it, I do not bother combine with TC. :) Better use other daily power.

    AS for example, Brood of Hadar also is good option. It got buffed and do decent dps + its Debuff effect is good combo.

    As for dps in general. Well temptation is support tree, not dps/striker build. So when I picked temptation I knew that I more less had to give up high dps. And stay with mid range dps + supporter role. With my build I provide either CC, heal. buff,debuff and mid range dps.
    I could go more offensive build, by focusing on single gameplay and pick furry feats over damnation and even skip couple temptation ones. I even met couple temptation warlocks in preview who picked offensive build.
    My one is more party focused, but have no problems go solo. :)

    Con + Cha. Sounds good. One of my builds had them. But Its one thing to be clear. If u want be striker warlock u should pick fury over tempttation. :) I picked INT for armor ressist ignorance + Recharge Speed. After all supporter is good if u can use powers more often.
    Anyways, when u complete your build. Write me about it, would be interesting to see. :)
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    “The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
    Gustave Le Bon.

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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    Mod 4/5 and 7/8 i played SB temp and it´s fun most of the time, the rest I run damnation to farm dungeons.
    I want a build to go PVP and PVE.
    Atm running HB fury is ok, but all in all every match (100% ) is dominated by healing/supporter classes, DC´s with 10k deflect/defense 24k power, OP ´s who can 1 vs 5 all time against a near maxed premade.

    Even being HB fury it takes time to get someone down on equal IL. The moment a DC or OP steps on the node it´s "game/fun over" because ..... --> those buffs and heals are obviously made for PVE, cryptic!!
    They should get limited much more, same like damage is limited to near effectivenessless from tenacity.
    Everyone is running with near 4k tenacity (new sets) , my DOTs effectiveness is at 20%-30% even having near 150% RI.
    It kills all effort and all fun in a moment, everyone at 100%+ "faithfully-capstoned" .

    So a hypermobile templock will do, just build something unkillable and cap, maybe howling weapon on top and noone can ever catch you.
    I will name it the "Trollock-Build" or "Spoillock for Domination" :)
  • gabrieldourdengabrieldourden Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    I'm really enjoying my HB temptlock in Mod 10. BoVA+PoP+Arms of Hadar work really well and with some dip into damnation to share PoP buff with the rest of the team you become a pretty good buffer too.
    Yesterday me (at 2.4k) and two friends (HR and SW fury somewhere between 3 and 3.3k) three-manned CN quite easily.
    I'm really Tempted (pun intended) to make it my main for mod10.
    Le-Shan: HR level 80 (main)
    Born of Black Wind: SW Level 80
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User

    I'm really enjoying my HB temptlock in Mod 10. BoVA+PoP+Arms of Hadar work really well and with some dip into damnation to share PoP buff with the rest of the team you become a pretty good buffer too.

    Yesterday me (at 2.4k) and two friends (HR and SW fury somewhere between 3 and 3.3k) three-manned CN quite easily.

    I'm really Tempted (pun intended) to make it my main for mod10.

    I totally agree, Hellbringer is a fun class atm :) amenar did somthing in the right direction
  • hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    edited September 2016

    Mod 4/5 and 7/8 i played SB temp and it´s fun most of the time, the rest I run damnation to farm dungeons.
    I want a build to go PVP and PVE.
    Atm running HB fury is ok, but all in all every match (100% ) is dominated by healing/supporter classes, DC´s with 10k deflect/defense 24k power, OP ´s who can 1 vs 5 all time against a near maxed premade.

    Even being HB fury it takes time to get someone down on equal IL. The moment a DC or OP steps on the node it´s "game/fun over" because ..... --> those buffs and heals are obviously made for PVE, cryptic!!
    They should get limited much more, same like damage is limited to near effectivenessless from tenacity.
    Everyone is running with near 4k tenacity (new sets) , my DOTs effectiveness is at 20%-30% even having near 150% RI.
    It kills all effort and all fun in a moment, everyone at 100%+ "faithfully-capstoned" .

    So a hypermobile templock will do, just build something unkillable and cap, maybe howling weapon on top and noone can ever catch you.
    I will name it the "Trollock-Build" or "Spoillock for Domination" :)

    When u made one I will check it out. :)

    I'm really enjoying my HB temptlock in Mod 10. BoVA+PoP+Arms of Hadar work really well and with some dip into damnation to share PoP buff with the rest of the team you become a pretty good buffer too.

    Yesterday me (at 2.4k) and two friends (HR and SW fury somewhere between 3 and 3.3k) three-manned CN quite easily.

    I'm really Tempted (pun intended) to make it my main for mod10.

    It's one of reason why I made temptation build, only to be able use PoP properly + buff allies. And temptation tree itself is kinda good for supporting... :)

    I'm really enjoying my HB temptlock in Mod 10. BoVA+PoP+Arms of Hadar work really well and with some dip into damnation to share PoP buff with the rest of the team you become a pretty good buffer too.

    Yesterday me (at 2.4k) and two friends (HR and SW fury somewhere between 3 and 3.3k) three-manned CN quite easily.

    I'm really Tempted (pun intended) to make it my main for mod10.

    I totally agree, Hellbringer is a fun class atm :) amenar did somthing in the right direction

    This Pillar Of Power was remodeled for Hellbringer path, which mean for all, to make sure Fury warlock would compete with other strikers. And thats why I called it DuckOnPlate. Because fury warlock without high ranked guilds boon become easy mark.
    And only temptation warlock can fully/properly utilize this encounter.
    ========================================================================
    “The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
    Gustave Le Bon.

    ==================================================
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited September 2016

    Mod 4/5 and 7/8 i played SB temp and it´s fun most of the time, the rest I run damnation to farm dungeons.
    I want a build to go PVP and PVE.
    Atm running HB fury is ok, but all in all every match (100% ) is dominated by healing/supporter classes, DC´s with 10k deflect/defense 24k power, OP ´s who can 1 vs 5 all time against a near maxed premade.

    Even being HB fury it takes time to get someone down on equal IL. The moment a DC or OP steps on the node it´s "game/fun over" because ..... --> those buffs and heals are obviously made for PVE, cryptic!!
    They should get limited much more, same like damage is limited to near effectivenessless from tenacity.
    Everyone is running with near 4k tenacity (new sets) , my DOTs effectiveness is at 20%-30% even having near 150% RI.
    It kills all effort and all fun in a moment, everyone at 100%+ "faithfully-capstoned" .

    So a hypermobile templock will do, just build something unkillable and cap, maybe howling weapon on top and noone can ever catch you.
    I will name it the "Trollock-Build" or "Spoillock for Domination" :)

    When u made one I will check it out. :)

    I'm really enjoying my HB temptlock in Mod 10. BoVA+PoP+Arms of Hadar work really well and with some dip into damnation to share PoP buff with the rest of the team you become a pretty good buffer too.

    Yesterday me (at 2.4k) and two friends (HR and SW fury somewhere between 3 and 3.3k) three-manned CN quite easily.

    I'm really Tempted (pun intended) to make it my main for mod10.

    It's one of reason why I made temptation build, only to be able use PoP properly + buff allies. And temptation tree itself is kinda good for supporting... :)

    I'm really enjoying my HB temptlock in Mod 10. BoVA+PoP+Arms of Hadar work really well and with some dip into damnation to share PoP buff with the rest of the team you become a pretty good buffer too.

    Yesterday me (at 2.4k) and two friends (HR and SW fury somewhere between 3 and 3.3k) three-manned CN quite easily.

    I'm really Tempted (pun intended) to make it my main for mod10.

    I totally agree, Hellbringer is a fun class atm :) amenar did somthing in the right direction

    This Pillar Of Power was remodeled for Hellbringer path, which mean for all, to make sure Fury warlock would compete with other strikers. And thats why I called it DuckOnPlate. Because fury warlock without high ranked guilds boon become easy mark.
    And only temptation warlock can fully/properly utilize this encounter.
    Okay, I did some PVP as templock and mobility is quite ok, but even running 50% Lifesteal you don´t heal up and your capstone stays s.hit in PVP as before double punished.
    You miss >50% damage from fury tree + capstone, wich spends more selfheal and more tankyness, and so you are onerotated by most combat hunter in no time. This Huntertree is far OP in PVP, you get stripped to zero in no time, them having zero arp but high power (like MI sabs in PVP using SE) and being unkillable for a warlock (even fury), due to crazy selfheals... the new master class imo.
    Only option would be soulbinder and selfheals from BT, dealing less damage in PVP.
    Running PVE, damage is ok but >50% less than fury, and I outheal most DC´s, but normally it´s not needed that much.
    So I will focus on HB fury, full dps in mod 10. PVP is no option to focus on as warlock in mod 10 tbh.
    Only viable tree is fury running PVP in mod 10 because capstone is too good to ignore.
    Post edited by schietindebux on
  • hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User


    Okay, I did some PVP as templock and mobility is quite ok, but even running 50% Lifesteal you don´t heal up and your capstone stays s.hit in PVP as before double punished.
    You miss >50% damage from fury tree + capstone, wich spends more selfheal and more tankyness, and so you are onerotated by most combat hunter in no time. This Huntertree is far OP in PVP, you get stripped to zero in no time, them having zero arp but high power (like MI sabs in PVP using SE) and being unkillable for a warlock (even fury), due to crazy selfheals... the new master class imo.
    Only option would be soulbinder and selfheals from BT, dealing less damage in PVP.
    Running PVE, damage is ok but >50% less than fury, and I outheal most DC´s, but normally it´s not needed that much.
    So I will focus on HB fury, full dps in mod 10. PVP is no option to focus on as warlock in mod 10 tbh.
    Only viable tree is fury running PVP in mod 10 because capstone is too good to ignore.

    Firstly sorry for very late responding.. I am not very active in forum.
    Anyways..
    Pvp and temptation warlock. Its what never work. Not only as u wrote, your dps sucks, but also due temptation Sw healing factor depending on life stealing.
    Higher resistance rates players have, less u will do damage, and less chance to life steal and in the end less HP u will restore.
    Also temptation warlocks have only 1 buff. Dark Revelry, which is nice one, but there is tricky part.
    Its trigger only by chance during life stealing. Which also is chance. So thats mean in order get this buff, u get in double chance zone. Even if u mange trigger life steal u are not sure that it will enable this buff.
    One of the best life stealing encounter is BoVa, which is not best for pvp. in pvp warlock bargain, Hadar grasp is way to go.
    Even vampiric embrace is bad there. If vampiric embrace would have life steal severity as extra feature in this encounter then it would be worth to use. But now its depend on dps. which is low, and 70% from done dmg u healing. Which is bad.

    Over all this build zero capabilities in pvp.
    In pvp warlock is only viable with soulbinder fury build. Hellbringer may look strong, but PoP making u sitting duck, which makes warlock easy target. Thats why I named PoP as DuckOnPlate, because if u try use PoP u had sit in his effect area. And even with Damnation's Power of nine h33l feat. U will not be as good as using third striking encounter.
    Tempation HB primary attack tool would be Hellish rebuke,
    thats mean NoPity,NoMercy + Flame of empowerment is default class feature set.
    Warlock bargain + Hadar grasp also default ones,
    And daily powers, accursed souls + Brood of Hadar or Flames of Phlegethos.

    But in the end u still will not be able compete neither in healing, neither in striking neither in CC area. Thats mean u become sub nonsense.


    Also this build even is nice, but over all the new gear set is not helping temptation warlocks. And accumulating life steal is kinda hard stuff. Personally I think furry is cheaper when comes building. Because u can put more def/deflect and give up life steal. And new gear sets do have them, and have 0 life steal features. If I switch to new gear sets and weapon I losing lot of life steal and temptation warlock is all about life stealing... 25% of chance life steal i consider bottom line. If u want be sub healer/sub buffer.

    p.s I planning build up furry HB once again... :)
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    “The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
    Gustave Le Bon.

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  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    No pity no mercy is destroying Hellish Rebuke damage capabilities.
    Ducks are quite good and necessary, but yeah, that might work like that on me with my HP pool and ilvl.

    In PvP I use Bargain/BoVA/Hadar (depends on situation) + Killing Flames + Duck
    Shadow Walk + Prince of Hell
    https://youtube.com/c/FernuStormborn

    Mod 10:
    [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Killing Flames deals 16636893 (1009292) Fire Damage to Ethraniev Marrowslake.

    Mod 9:
    [Combat (Self)] Your Murderous Flames deals 376274433 (18876929) Fire Damage to Red Tiamat Head.
  • tutelo#5367 tutelo Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    fernuu said:

    "No pity no mercy is destroying Hellish Rebuke damage capabilities."
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    I know NPNM changes the way Hellish Rebuke works, but I I got an overall ~24% damage increase with it on ACT.

    Are you saying NPNM is no good? Can you elaborate?
  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    It's pure PvP wise - it works better as DoT with it's weird interaction to PoP.
    https://youtube.com/c/FernuStormborn

    Mod 10:
    [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Killing Flames deals 16636893 (1009292) Fire Damage to Ethraniev Marrowslake.

    Mod 9:
    [Combat (Self)] Your Murderous Flames deals 376274433 (18876929) Fire Damage to Red Tiamat Head.
  • tutelo#5367 tutelo Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    Ah so its better for PVP to have the DoT for Hellish. Thanks!
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    Hellbringer fury is a good choice in PVP, Hellbringer temptation not, because temptation will deal 1/3 of fury damage I would say.
    I run hellbringer fury full PVP setup and it works quite good. The damage is remarkable and some classes like GF and TR´s can´t snipe you away that easy.
    I faced 4k TR, Hunter, GF and you can stand them 1 vs 1. All you need is a PVP setup, HP, deflect and the other few little things like Axbeak, feytouched etc.
  • nyarlathotep#5346 nyarlathotep Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    Excellent guide, thanks. Which wep enchantment you use on ps4?
  • gromcall#8760 gromcall Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    Next week mod 10 is finally comming to ps4. I'm ging to respec to hellbringer temptation. Thank you for the guides it's certainly helpfull
  • treesclimbertreesclimber Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,161 Arc User
    Darkness seems a bit of a waste, BoVa is insignificant when compared to arms of hadar, fiery bolt and like usual faster cleaning, safer cleaning, anyway thanks for the build, i hope to make one too when temptation is really *fixed*, btw life steal severity increases damage in porpotion to it in a life steal?

  • hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User

    Excellent guide, thanks. Which wep enchantment you use on ps4?

    I play pc version neverwinter. And I use greater dread enchantment at this moment.

    Next week mod 10 is finally comming to ps4. I'm ging to respec to hellbringer temptation. Thank you for the guides it's certainly helpfull

    It have good and bad sides. Plus still is not like best HB temptation build.. Because I was trying build my warlock usefull in party but also capable be good solo. Also i found to be useful of this build because it's not build around top end gear, or legendary mounts or maxed enchant stones.

    If I would look for more offensive/solo gameplay. I would choose some other boons, perhaps also would change some feats...
    Not mentioned i slightly changed my gear and also obtained new epic mount.

    Darkness seems a bit of a waste, BoVa is insignificant when compared to arms of hadar, fiery bolt and like usual faster cleaning, safer cleaning, anyway thanks for the build, i hope to make one too when temptation is really *fixed*, btw life steal severity increases damage in porpotion to it in a life steal?

    Well its depend on player gamestyle, role in party and his stats.

    Bova is brilliant encounter. Dmg wise perhaps not strongest one. But still it provide lot of good sides.

    Bova is power which have multiple blades spins around warlock. There are not like 5 of them but way more.
    And every blade by hitting enemy is counter as hit, which end up trigger life steal. And more often you trigger life steal, there is more chance you will get Dark revelry buff enabled.

    On alone Bova dmg is not as good, but if u combine with PoP its good enough to be worth of being use.
    Also when using Bova it provide 20% deflect chance. Now add darkness feat which reduce all enemies outgoing damage when Bova hit them. On top add Aura of Despair which reduce enemies outgoing damage by 5%.
    So more less with BoVa + PoP up I can stand in midle of enemies group and still had time to drink tea. :)

    Also BoVa is one of major factors why I can rival heal DC in term of healing. Without BoVa there is no chances. Because when BoVa + PoP uP I have big continuous life stealing.

    But anyways, It lot of depend what gameplay u have, and what role u play in party,
    Also it best way to check it's effectivness in to see by own eyes. IF there will be chance.. Try write me mail in game.. I will try get you in party where I could show up my temptation warlock in real fight :)
    ========================================================================
    “The masses have never thirsted after truth. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.
    Gustave Le Bon.

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  • nyarlathotep#5346 nyarlathotep Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    Vorpal it is then, hehe. Hope we get dread for ps4 on Tuesday w/ mod 10
  • hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User

    Vorpal it is then, hehe. Hope we get dread for ps4 on Tuesday w/ mod 10

    From all this build I think only feats from temptation tree is important.
    Heroic feats, mounts, boons, gear, companions, insignias, enchants can be changed and make even better build.

    When I wrote this build, I aimed for mid/high tear players. Who yet don't have top end gear sets, don't have top end enchants, or legendary mounts, legendary companions with triple bonding runes.

    So its not like u must to have dread enchant in your weapon. Any enchant will be good. Also u can go with enchant that boost up life stealing rates, while in same time change belt, or artifacts.

    Also I have slightly changed my temptation warlocks build.. I obtained heavy inferno nightmare mount, which give me 2k life steal. So I changed my weapons to twisted set, and on top upgraded some enchant stones within my gear. I plan also change some heroic feats. Because my life stealing is already 5k. And its not like I need more.. :)


    Anyways, I will try write updated version of my build when I get free time.. :)
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  • nyarlathotep#5346 nyarlathotep Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    Thanks very much bloody, keep up the good work. Respeccing tomorrow. Just acquired negation enchant and 2k lifesteal mount, broke 2500 il. Very excited
  • hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User

    Thanks very much bloody, keep up the good work. Respeccing tomorrow. Just acquired negation enchant and 2k lifesteal mount, broke 2500 il. Very excited

    Glad that u like my build. I also just remind you not go with full build copy.

    Here I explain why..

    1) armor set where ment/build to generate mostly power, crit and some portion of def stats. While Armor penetration and recovery where least in mind.. That you can see in my power table where its show up that my arp is low, and def also is not high one. With guild boons enabled I have 6k+ arp + 9k+ def, with tank companion on I hit 10k def, so more less I can hold bosses for short of time.. :)

    However guild now have power boons, and I have plans to change my armor to more advanced/elemental infused armor set. Which would generate more arp while power mostly will come from guild boon.. :)

    2) I obtained mount which gives 2k life steal and changed my elemental weapon set to twisted..
    Via mount, 3x dark enchants rank 9 within gear set , via new insignia in my epic mount which add extra life steals I changed weapons to get even higher power/crit rates..
    Also now I have all my enchants within gear at least rank 9. Only radiant in twisted weapon is rank 10.. (for now)

    And most of time now I have 22k+ power.. :) But it can be increase way more, only matter to change gear set which plan to do when I back to game. .. :)

    3) Change build to fit your need. Some stuffs perhaps you don't have. And they can be changed/replaced without requirement to rebuild all build. :)

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  • nyarlathotep#5346 nyarlathotep Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    Just respecced and tested. Awesome. Tons of room for improvement, but enjoying build very much. friends love it too, heals, buffs, and cc.
  • shauneepeak#3867 shauneepeak Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    Has the Maze Engine boon Engine Inspiration been tested to see whether or not it triggers for Templocks? It seems like it would be far better as a support character versus Baphomet's Might.
  • hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User

    Has the Maze Engine boon Engine Inspiration been tested to see whether or not it triggers for Templocks? It seems like it would be far better as a support character versus Baphomet's Might.

    Engine Inspiration: Your healing spells have a chance to heal allies around you for 20,000 Hit Points.

    Also why it should not be triggered by temptation warlocks? It's work same as baphomet's might, which is chance based.
    Its good boon, but I didn't pick it, mostly because I want to be able do damage too, not stay in party just for heal, buff and debuffs.. :)

    p.s I am retired from this game, for month or two.. So sorry, I can't test do it really worth keep this boon by doing eDungeons, eDemo/tiamat runs...
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  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    I'm not sure it works. You don't have any healing spells (aka encounters/dailies). Everything is based on LS.
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  • hadestemplar#9918 hadestemplar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    fernuu said:

    I'm not sure it works. You don't have any healing spells (aka encounters/dailies). Everything is based on LS.

    Perhaps it would work, perhaps it would not.. And personally I don't think this boon is needed for temptation warlock as much as need for DC.

    You all know that temptation heal through it's life stealing. But thats not all whats separate sw from DC.

    The biggest difference is that unlike DC, temptation sw heal all allies around him in same time. While DC have to aim area to heal. Thats mean heal DC is brilliant when comes party healing, but when comes more than 1 party healing, warlock beat DC most of time.
    Well I played with heal based DC, and I had head pain when I needed to heal guys in tiamat. All running around, and its hard to heal them all. While with warlock I just need be in middle of group and hit demons. Thats mean I was striker and healer in same time.
    Now also cool part of temptation is that, if you add dragon glyph's in overload slots, you apply DoT on monsters and thats trigger life stealing.. So more less I have continuous healing even without BoVa + PoP.
    Also when I use Vampiric embrace, I have instant burst healing, and not only for one group. But to all who are not far from me.
    If you have strong damage, your vampiric embrace will do heal more. So you can actually have same or even better healing than this maze boon.

    During major HE's fight in Bryn Shander area I notice that I can heal all group alone. While usually it would require at least 2 heal DC's, :)

    p.s I haven't tested, but i wonder if by adding White dragon glyph's in overload slots, would that increase healing output too. :) If that increase thats mean this boon should work too..

    p.s.s I didn't expect that this temptation build would get so much interest. I was thinking it would be viewed like ~30 times and all would forget it..

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