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jugger71jugger71 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 252 Arc User
I have one account with 8 characters not 8 accounts with 1 character each. I have one of each class because I get bored easily and every class brings something different to the table.

Legendary Mounts are very rare and acquiring one is time consuming and expensive. Im having difficulty justifying getting one and much less so 1 for every character I have.

Making them account bound so that one may transfer it amongst the characters he/she plays would go a very long way toward pleasing the player base as well as open up many more options as to what a player may do with his/her account.

Thanks!

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  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    Share Speed Bonus (to account) - OK
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  • sockmunkeysockmunkey Member Posts: 4,622 Arc User
    No, if they did that then it would most assuredly mean that they could no longer be sold or traded.

    As stupid as the system is now. At least I know if I grind enough AD I can always buy one off another player. You take that away and force EVERYONE to rely on keys and chance and the planet might shift orbit from all the rage induced table flipping.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,406 Arc User
    If it is account bound, they may as well makes them Zen store mounts so that buy one and all characters can have one.
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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,406 Arc User
    edited August 2016

    No, if they did that then it would most assuredly mean that they could no longer be sold or traded.



    As stupid as the system is now. At least I know if I grind enough AD I can always buy one off another player. You take that away and force EVERYONE to rely on keys and chance and the planet might shift orbit from all the rage induced table flipping.

    "Bound to Account" does not have to be "Bound to Account when Pickup". It can be "Bound to Account when Equip". There are items in that category already.

    However, that also means this item will be X times higher than the current price.
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  • sockmunkeysockmunkey Member Posts: 4,622 Arc User
    There is what people want and then there is what Cryptic will do. I simply offered up the most likely result, not the best one.

    Call me jaded but id much rather leave most things alone, rather then hope Cryptic changes it in a way that benefits the players. They dont have a very good track record on that account.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,406 Arc User

    There is what people want and then there is what Cryptic will do. I simply offered up the most likely result, not the best one.



    Call me jaded but id much rather leave most things alone, rather then hope Cryptic changes it in a way that benefits the players. They dont have a very good track record on that account.

    I agree. When you ask Cryptic for something, most likely you get something which is opposite.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    jugger71 said:


    Making them account bound so that one may transfer it amongst the characters he/she plays would go a very long way toward pleasing the player base as well as open up many more options as to what a player may do with his/her account.

    There is no way for account-bound mounts to work in the stable system, because you can't remove a mount from a character once they've used it anymore.

    Better to wish for a way to get account-wide legendary speed.

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  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,152 Arc User
    While everyone on an account can claim a zen market mount purchase, it isn't the same mount since each character can their own insignia. Legendary mounts are status symbols. Nothing more.
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  • krymkackrymkac Member Posts: 210 Arc User
    I just want 140% speed. I don't care about anything else. Would be nice if for Zen we could unlock the mounts/companions already in collection for alts but not sure it would be more profitable for the publisher than lockboxes. Hence won't happen. They at least could sell 140% speed unlocks/upgrades in Zen store/wb. That way legendary mounts would still be bis and wanted for stats/powers while less demanding/lucky/rich ppl would get top speed.
  • someonediessomeonedies Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,257 Arc User
    edited August 2016

    1. Zen Market: "Mount Legendary Movement-Speed Unlock"
    - [Legendary Speed Bonus Token] Pack:
    -- Unlock 140% Movement Speed to your Stable
    -- Opening the pack also unlocks the following title for all characters: Leading the Cavalry
    Leading the Cavalry can claim a pack from the Reclaim tab of the Reward Claims Agent on each and every character new or existing that doesn't currently have one.

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  • nameexpirednameexpired Member Posts: 1,282 Arc User
    Why not just ask for a legendary mount to be sold in the ZEN shop as usually for Z mounts account wide?
    I guess this would be easy to do.
    I guess not interesting.
    Btw, I am quite certain they said in 2013 that there will never be a mount faster than 110%.
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  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,152 Arc User
    Because the legendary are supposed to be just that, legendary. Not everyone can/should have one.
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  • beckylunaticbeckylunatic Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14,231 Arc User
    greywynd said:

    Because the legendary are supposed to be just that, legendary. Not everyone can/should have one.

    This is a staggering bad argument. When epic mounts were the best you could get, wanting a special vanity mount still provided plenty of support for selling keys for that chance at a Stag or Nightmare, and anyone who just wanted the utility could get a Clydesdale or whatever.

    Now the utility of the best available mounts is locked behind a massive luck/paywall, for no reason other than to keep them artificially exclusive. It is a system created to ensure that there are way more have-nots than haves, but the small supply is an artificial creation, for no other reason than to market dissatisfaction.

    It's infuriating.
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  • two30two30 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,168 Arc User
    It feels like it has been a long time since they have added any mounts to the Zen Market at all.
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  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    two30 said:

    It feels like it has been a long time since they have added any mounts to the Zen Market at all.

    Yeah, most of the new mounts are now in lockboxes or community giveaways. :(
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  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User
    edited August 2016

    There is what people want and then there is what Cryptic will do. I simply offered up the most likely result, not the best one.



    Call me jaded but id much rather leave most things alone, rather then hope Cryptic changes it in a way that benefits the players. They dont have a very good track record on that account.

    It's not even likely though ...

    Everything lockboxes is BoE or unbound because they want players to be able to convert items into AD because it encourages players to open boxes even if they know they won't necessarily get what they want. If they made legendary mounts unlock that mount account wide they'd find a way to still allow players to sell that mount prior to equipping it (e.g. give a BoE pack that unlocks the mount account wide) otherwise they're breaking their monetization scheme.
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  • killzoneexkillzoneex Member Posts: 94 Arc User
    Well, I think they need to do something. I have held off (and will continue to hold off) getting a legendary mount because I don't have 1 main that I play and they don't have a good track record with regard to wrecking classes. Thus I am unwilling to commit a legendary mount to whatever I'm playing at the moment.
  • oldbaldyoneoldbaldyone Member Posts: 1,840 Arc User
    I have a feeling account bound things will not be added much going forward. It breaks the current philosophy of Repetition = Engaging Gameplay and Content. Anything that goes to the entire account is something you don't have to grind for on those accounts, and they can't have that.

    Come up with any other reason behind it you want, but it comes down to that. They can't produce content fast enough, and therefore need to put in carrot on a sticks.

    I'd love it if you unlocked the 140% speed account wide, no doubt. However, I'm dedicated to 1 toon pretty much (the others are salvage and dungeon run mules) so it doesn't affect me much. I'll change my toon if they release a larger bag though and don't allow us to upgrade or move the current ones.
  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    yep account bound.... please
  • polaris1986polaris1986 Member Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    I'd like to have Visial of mounts for all my twinks... for example I want some nice bear or horse for my GWF but it does with recovery state or vampiric. So it costs too much for just look. But if I had possible to buy this bear and bound to my OP twin with visial on my GWF it would be great.

    and legendary mounts also have exclusive vision but i why can't use it look on any i want twin....
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  • sasagerusasageru Member Posts: 269 Arc User
    I like this idea. Legendary mounts are near impossible to get, and when you get it binding to character on use is like flushing 20+mil down the toilet and hoping you never decide to change your main toon. I've yet to get a legendary mount and I know if I got one, i would have a difficult time deciding if I should give it to my DPS main or my Healer - I use both equally and consider both to be my main.

    I understand why they are current character bound, it matches the model for the rest of the non zen store mounts, and I understand that lockboxes are the profit generator in this game, so making their top reward bound to character on use means people are more likely to spend more. Still, I think its reasonable for legendary mounts to be account bound rather than character bound - you don't get additional benefit other than being able to transfer it for use to another character on that account.
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  • mattachinemattachine Member Posts: 189 Arc User
    [rant]
    First things first. Mounts are these days mostly costumes as you can use one and still benefit from 5 others that you have active.
    Why these "costumes" can't be unlocked for an account instead of limiting it to one character seems rather cheep/greedy. Same goes for any item or clothing unlock you get on an account. I get that they limit the real item due to its stats to either one character or one account. But please, not bind on pickup. I have lost count of the times I've spent playing and gotten something that my character can't use as it isn't their class. But that would have been sweet to use on one of my other characters. But as it is bind to character on pickup, all I can do is trash it or use it for refinement or salvage it if any of those options are available. I wouldn't grind for something legendary that I couldn't use on any of my characters. If I got a legendary axe beak on a character that I will never use it on, then I will never use it. And if I by chance had a character that it would suit that character to have such a mount I wouldn't start grinding the same thing over again to maybe once in a blue moon be rewarded one.

    Secondly, seriously what is the RNG for lockboxes, I'm about to throw a rage quit tantrum trying to get the Polar Bear Companion of one of my characters. I've spent hundreds of keys on them and all I get are enchantment pack or profession packs, I have gotten so many Chillwrights, Cryomancers, Master Cryomancer, Grandmaster Cryomancers and other profession workers that I could over populate a planet with them. It's like they breed more then Tribbles do. And not once have I gotten the New Life Epic or Legendary Companion Pack. While I see the announcements popping up on screen every other minute that this and that player have gotten this or that legendary or epic mount.
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  • urtew3urtew3 Member Posts: 161 Arc User
    i really dont like your idea for how doing that will kill off the lockboxs for how i dont think you understand how hard it is to pull out a legendary item cause i spend over 415 keys before i got the war triceratops and i can tell you i did not have any fun on the soulmonger's lockbox after they ruined that one and how they should of just given all are toons on are account just the combat power equip power and speed after the legendary mount was equip or i would of liked that than having the 110 speed
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