about Temptation in queue

polaris1986

i'm confussed, as i look like a tank? Or system think i can tanking Castle Never?
Why Temptation warlock recognizes like TANK??



today i tryed few random queues and always i was put as tanking class. omg.
are you OK?

2 Paladins in Justice
1 GWF
2 SW's in Damnation and Temptation.

in 1 random party.
HOW?

beckylunatic

I am very confused by this report, as the paladins would have been queued as the tank (protection) and healer (devotion). Being specced in Justice works for either. I don't think special accommodations to treat a Temptation Warlock have ever been made to treat it as anything but a DPS class (1 GWF and 2 SW = 3 DPS).

polaris1986

would have been queued as the tank (protection) and healer (devotion). Being specced in Justice works for either.

there wasn't devotion paladin.
was my SW temptation

and in next few queues i was added to party with DC and 3 DD's else.
today in CN I seen party with HR Trapper (good DD with maybe biggest damage in party). We changed DD classes (was few GWF's/SW/CW) and ONLY when HR left us, we got OP in Protection.

It is really strange thing.
No Temp Warlocks, no trappers, maybe someone else can't just normally join random.
even if i will go by my OP how would i know that healer will be in party?

2 OP in protection on one party (ONE party, Carl!)
1 OP with 4(!) GWF's in group (was yesterday) and every time when someone left party the new was ALSO GWF.
1 DC with 3-4 CW.

and this it all for few last days.

beckylunatic

Then it sounds like the public queue is behaving like a skirmish group for CN rather than assigning roles at all, and has nothing to do with you being a Templock. It's just taking the first 5 players available.

@terramak Definitely worth looking into.

polaris1986

No, there is a system 2 supports (any) and 3 DPS (any).

First party (ToS):
OP and OP (ok, maybe someone of them is tank)
1 SW in healing (ok)
2 DPS

result: No DPS to defeat boss. Even if OP's will live.
Sorry I can't heal as strong as DC or OP (healer) and I can't get AP for OP, i'm so sorry
and this is queue for 2 000 total item level

Second party: (eLoL)
1 DC
1 my SW
3 some DPS (GWF and some else)

no way, queue for 1 600
CW or HR left, came OP. (we won, but long).

Third party: (CN)
1 DC
1 my SW
3 some DPS

was kicked because of "where is our tank?"

one more CN
1 DC
1 my SW (fury)
1 GWF
1 HR (trapper)
1 someone else

no OP. Trapper left - OP is here. nice.

So the problem. some epics can't be won without tanking class (not just support controller or 2 healers/debuffers, yes I can use Hellish rebuke for debuff but will it be usefull for t2 is bosses??)
Also some DPS OP/DC/GF paragones can't be usefull with 2 000 item level (and also 2k with guilds benefits isn't a 2k without it)

mmm1001

I guess it doesn't matter at all.
Queuing and playing CN with random party is 99.9% guaranteed failure unless your OP is one of good ones (at less for next few days). The fact that you expect to finish CN with random party means that it doesn't matter what that party is, you will fail anyway.
And btw for test I tried CN with different combos - like HR+TR+DC+CW+GWF it is doable .... with ~4k IL.