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  • crystal892fcrystal892f Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 385 Arc User

    "That awfully long animation of a TT mark" is warlock curse, and yes, you need to cast over and over again.

    Warlocks Curse empowered by TT, yes. The animation time of a Tyrannical Curse is longer than normal Warlocks Curse, that's what I meant.
    fernuu said:

    Don't know why you think so. Just tested with ACT, both effectiveness and damage are same with and without recasting TT.

    My quoted part from @treesclimber sounded like that to me, so I wanted clarification. Thanks for testing :)

  • treesclimbertreesclimber Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,161 Arc User

    "That awfully long animation of a TT mark" is warlock curse, and yes, you need to cast over and over again.

    Warlocks Curse empowered by TT, yes. The animation time of a Tyrannical Curse is longer than normal Warlocks Curse, that's what I meant.
    fernuu said:

    Don't know why you think so. Just tested with ACT, both effectiveness and damage are same with and without recasting TT.

    My quoted part from @treesclimber sounded like that to me, so I wanted clarification. Thanks for testing :)

    Ok, believe in Fernuu then, i cant have preview installed until i format my pc wich will take loads of time..... and the original person that wrote that has wrote some....doubtful things after that, sorry about the misleading info.

  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited April 2016

    Nevermind , a damnation lock with 10 Points in fury will allways outdamage the damlock with 15 points in Temptation, allways...though he will not buff the group at all

    If you go solo the damnation/temp may do better

    Same will do a fury/damn 10 points to a fury/temp 15 points..Grab all buffs and do better damage

    The single target damage your immolation spirits can deal are relevant as well and the improved version is a lot better

    The benefit from spark per crit is also a bonus no fury/ templock will get that much

    So i am pretty sure: every fury/damn will beat a fury/temp in a party

    Only Problem is: if you do PVP that's no option

    Not always, ac dc can boost my power to 80k, during that time dark revelry will count as 30 something% buff, i doubt critical promisse and burning soul can get anywhere near. I would like to see a BIS sw as myself, even not having guild for power boons, being outdpsed by a fury/damnation, not a chance, my is are always up single target and multi target tt is the key.....i just cant see brutal curse topping that.
    In case a damnation temp runs side by side with a damnation/fury, same gear , same group damnation fury will out dps damnation/temp because--> he will get the dark revelry buff (+ DC buff) + ghastly commander (+10% damage) + critical promise+ burnig soul (up to 10%)

    in case a fury/templock (15) runs side by side with a fury/damn (10), same gear , same group fury/damnation will out dps fury/temptation because--> he will get the dark revelry buff (+ DC buff) + 20 second immolation spirits on single target + brutal course
    It´s a "parasitic" build, but it will do more in realtion to otherones in same group :) ....but will do worse solo
    simple math imo

    one more to say...DC spams dDG+DG most time in the center near tank/boss, eDG has 30 feet range, eBtS same or more maybe 40....but i watched so many casterclasses standing far, far away from boss and from DC at the edge of a room not getting buffed by that
    so best place from my POV as a DC is the mid, back of the boss not 50 feet away
    I think it's somewhere in the forum that dark revelry stacks, so even being parasitic build will be worse....
    I mentioned ac dc because of aa and stupid power buff paired with companion procing bonding runestones + weapons of light.
    only logic involved so believe what you want, beside that i run both builds and did compare them:

    someones warlock: damnation/temptation
    my warlock: damnation/fury

    someones warlock in my group: dark revelry+ buff xy
    my warlock in his group: dark revelry+ buff xy + burnig soul (up to 10% damage)+ ghastly commander (10% damage 2 % LS) + critical promise

    I hope you can see the difference ..dark revelry is a group buff
    beside that dark revelry is pretty nice and I would use it running fury in PVP, but for damnationlocks the 10 points in fury +commander will give you more damage even our puppet seems to deal more
    solo it´s maybe no significant difference, 20% power is not 20% damage

    same when you decide to skip dark revelry and go full fury, your personal damage related to the group will be better--> you will outdamage other player, but missing the 20% powerbuff the fight will last longer
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  • taitinhakkaajataitinhakkaaja Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    I always choose party buffing power if it's possible, even if it means my personal dps is slightly lower. Reason is dc,op,gf,cw buffs too and all those buffs add up, so overall party performance will be better.
    I just want things to be done fast as possible.
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited April 2016
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User

    I always choose party buffing power if it's possible, even if it means my personal dps is slightly lower. Reason is dc,op,gf,cw buffs too and all those buffs add up, so overall party performance will be better.
    I just want things to be done fast as possible.

    That's an argument that counts, from that POV I assume you use "Beacon of Simril" entering a fight :)

    but we argued about another point, and I hope I could point out why some builds will allways seem to be stronger
    Same will maybe a fury focussed build look like, taking damnation 10 points for single target +brutal course...you will beat the other build 1on 1
    My main topic was about the damnation build and I only can speak of this. It´s a significant difference.
    As I wrote, even the puppet deal more damage, in case you scip the "Buff-build", no clue why...but who knows about puppet and the way it get´s buffed
  • kikisealekikiseale Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 39 Arc User

    I don't know how good idea this is, but i share it with you anyway :smiley:
    Hell bringer damnation with dark revelry. Orcus arti set and owlbear companion. Buff as much power as you can get and crit as low as you can get.
    So problem is, what powers owlbear multiprocs?

    if you are going full power, external bondings 12 with owlbear cub as active, soulbinder. the lazer, no cd is encounter, proc each hit, hand slam, HAMSTER in itself, but at 30-40k per owlbear proc on non crit, you cant go wrong, no cd. swap crit for recovery, use combat legend mount attack cd reset, and stack recovery instead of crit. that maximizes owlbear on sw, but a full power/crit/tvorpal build still does better
  • taitinhakkaajataitinhakkaaja Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    Currently i'm doing just fine with, trans dread and over 90% crit%. Basic idea of that build was, i just want something different -> not sb fury. You know things get boring at some point and i'm already way over that point :smiley:
    Only problem, no one knows does owlbear multi proc?
  • gungio#3657 gungio Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    So is external bondings 12 with owlbear cub as active a must now

    peace
  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    Well, depends on build and gear. With 90% crit chance owlbear is pointless, and not all dots are procing it anyway.
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